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posted on 13/12/23

comment by HenrysCat (U3608)
posted 11 hours, 26 minutes ago
"Why can't we out the Gambian rapist in the same place we put all the other rapists?"

He has to be resident in the UK for 3 years before he can join the Police Force.
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posted on 13/12/23

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 5 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Let’s break this down step by step;

1) Is the Gambian born convicted rapist in prison?

Two options, yes or no.

If yes, then they’re not out in society. So what is the issue?
If no, we move on to the next step.

2) Did this person go through onerous release assessment?

If yes, then we move to 3a.
If no, then move to 3b.

3a) with the person released having had an onerous assessment, then why are you grumbling as they’ll have been deemed suitable to be a productive member of society?

3b) they’ve been released but the release assessment wasn’t onerous (perhaps as thought was to be shipped overseas) then re arrest and carry out assessment -> back to Q2.


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Did you read the article ? The judge deemed him a danger to women.

I’d love to know what crime someone has to commit for you to be deemed suitable for deportation, because the only thing this piece of filth could have done to top his crimes would to be to murder his victim.

Just because he was realised doesn’t mean he’s going to be a productive member of society. Would you employ a man who held a knife to his victims throat whilst he raped her? The piece of 💩 will leech of this country until he snuffs it.

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Yeah, like all the other rapists. Ate you saying he should be treated differently from other rapists because he is no white? Or because he is an immigrant.

If it's the former then that makes you a racist. If the latter then that makes you xenophobic.

Which one are you?

posted on 13/12/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 minutes ago
Let’s break this down step by step;

1) Is the Gambian born convicted rapist in prison?

Two options, yes or no.

If yes, then they’re not out in society. So what is the issue?
If no, we move on to the next step.

2) Did this person go through onerous release assessment?

If yes, then we move to 3a.
If no, then move to 3b.

3a) with the person released having had an onerous assessment, then why are you grumbling as they’ll have been deemed suitable to be a productive member of society?

3b) they’ve been released but the release assessment wasn’t onerous (perhaps as thought was to be shipped overseas) then re arrest and carry out assessment -> back to Q2.


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Unemployable with a rape conviction, won't be deported either. Should he be entitled to benefits as an illegal immigrant?
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Unemployable?

posted on 13/12/23

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 5 hours, 49 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Let’s break this down step by step;

1) Is the Gambian born convicted rapist in prison?

Two options, yes or no.

If yes, then they’re not out in society. So what is the issue?
If no, we move on to the next step.

2) Did this person go through onerous release assessment?

If yes, then we move to 3a.
If no, then move to 3b.

3a) with the person released having had an onerous assessment, then why are you grumbling as they’ll have been deemed suitable to be a productive member of society?

3b) they’ve been released but the release assessment wasn’t onerous (perhaps as thought was to be shipped overseas) then re arrest and carry out assessment -> back to Q2.


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Did you read the article ? The judge deemed him a danger to women.

I’d love to know what crime someone has to commit for you to be deemed suitable for deportation, because the only thing this piece of filth could have done to top his crimes would to be to murder his victim.

Just because he was realised doesn’t mean he’s going to be a productive member of society. Would you employ a man who held a knife to his victims throat whilst he raped her? The piece of 💩 will leech of this country until he snuffs it.
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Yes I read the article.

No I personally wouldn’t employ a man who held a knife to his victims throat whilst he raped her in my current role.

I don’t think we should be deporting someone for whom it would be a breach of human rights. This has been tested by the courts and it is deemed to be.

posted on 13/12/23

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 11 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Active Measures. (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Active Measures. (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Lucious Lyon (U11781)
posted 56 minutes ago
An asylum seeker has reportedly died on the Bibby Stockholm barge, according to someone living on the boat, which the government has established as accommodation for migrants.

The person onboard, who first informed ITV News of the tragedy, said the asylum seeker was found dead this morning.


https://www.itv.com/news/2023-12-12/asylum-seeker-dies-on-bibby-stockholm-barge

Imagine the joy this is giving the Tory MP’s
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Where should they be housed?
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Somewhere humane?

The actual question is why the need for barges such as the Bibby Stockholm in the first place. Because the government has purposely chosen to weaponise asylum seekers for political gain.

They could have spent the required resources to put towards processing claims faster. To help mitigate the need for additional housing. But that would help solve the problem.

https://righttoremain.org.uk/toolkit/asylumdecision/
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I’ll ask the question again. Where should they go? Somewhere more humane doesn’t answer the question.
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As noted, you're asking the wrong question. As the answer does nothing to solve the problem.
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Even if their application for asylum was fast tracked, where are they going to live? And let’s be honest here, it takes years to deport rapists and murderers because of bs human rights laws, so we still need somewhere to house them.


It was only the other month a Gambian drug dealing rapist won the right to remain in the U.K. because his human rights would be violated if he was deported. Surely someone as woke as you can see that is wrong.

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There's nothin wrong with following the law. If this is true then he will still get punished. Why does deportation have to be part of the punishment? There's already tons of rapists here.
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Does anyone else agree with this tool?

You deport him because there's a chance he'd reoffend, he's going to cost the state a mint because who's going to employ a convicted drug dealing piece of crap?

I take it you're against deporting all those Pakistani child molesters too?

Have you got children?

https://ustimespost.com/rapist-illegal-immigrant-who-is-a-danger-to-women-cant-be-deported-over-human-rights-issue/
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Of course I am against deporting all those if it's true what you say. And yes, I have children. There are a ton of paedos here in UK, I have to protect my kids all the time.

Unlike you, a paedo is a paedo in my eyes. It doesn't matter to me their skin colour or country of origin. There's no difference in my eyes between Pakistani paedos and British paedos.

What we do to British paedos is the same thing we should do to all Paedos. We shouldn't take extra additional measures because of skin colour or country of origin. That would be racist and xenophobic.

There are rapists here too who might reoffend, and often do. The Gambian got the same treatment that local white rapists get, and rightfully so, anything else would be racism or xenophobia.

Are you saying the state should do more than they usually do to rapists because this particular rapist is black and a immigrant? He should be treated like any other rapist. We shouldn't do something special just because of his skin colour or country of origin.

All men are equal as per the convention on Human rights. Being an immigrant or whatever does not make someone less equal or less deserving of human rights.

Of course you are too thick to process this and that stoopidity explains why you actually think we should treat criminals differently based on their skin colour or country of origin you facking xenophobic racist.

posted on 13/12/23

Furthermore, UK and the West need to be careful with all their pontificating and high horseing around this issue.

Of course local news don't often carry these reports but out in Africa, Asia etc you can hardly go a week without news of some white paedophile or rapist arrested and charged.

The world is literally crawling with white paedos and rapists from the west who go to other lands where it's easier to get away with their crimes. The stats are through the roof and that's just the ones who get caught.

If deportation becomes a global trend, UK and the West better arrange housing for the thousands and thousands of paedos and rapists that would be deported back here with the quickness.

You're better off keeping the Gambian rapist as you could deport him and end up having 10 more rapists deported back to you. Or is it OK because those deported back would be white? Would you trade a black immigrant rapist for a white native one? At least the white rapist would be one of your own, right?

posted on 13/12/23

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EXvE850DI_E

posted on 13/12/23

Hey Clapfree, have you met Harris?

https://nation.africa/kenya/life-and-style/family/-boy-you-smell-so-good-i-could-eat-you-how-british-paedophile-lured-street-boys-into-unnatural-acts-1076762

Because of the frequency in cases, the British High Commission in Kenya in conjunction with the command at National Crime Agency have launched a new resource to combat the sexual exploitation and abuse of children in the country by travelling British child sexual offenders.

And that's just Kenya alone. Paedos are our number one export these days.

posted on 13/12/23

It's so bad that British nationals now need a Child Protection Certificate to go to Kenya to work with anything involving kids.

posted on 13/12/23

Check these guys out

https://www.news24.com/News24/magnus-malan-two-other-national-party-ministers-were-paedophiles-20180805

Apartheid runners were kiddie fiddling South African kids. Why am I not surprised? Disgussin'!

They were staunch christians too, therefore, based on this incident and a few others like it, I have concluded that Christianity is now incompatible with South African culture.

posted on 13/12/23

They shot a kid up his rear and maimed him for life too. Amazing that he survived. With that level of brutality I'm pretty sure they were very kind to native South African populations under apartheid, and took every single opportunity possible to lessen their yoke and improve their circumstances.

posted on 13/12/23

Oh look, another christian, gone all the way to Africa to help look after the poor little orphans and running a children's home!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/02/04/kenya-orphanage-child-abuse/

These christians man!!

posted on 13/12/23

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-45195756.amp

https://www.citizen.digital/news/american-paedophile-released-from-kamiti-in-2022-charged-with-defiling-3-year-old-girl-in-athi-river-n331706

https://www.the-star.co.ke/news/2020-06-19-german-man-charged-with-sodomy-child-trafficking-detained-until-july-1/

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2020/jul/08/kenya-calls-for-help-in-fight-against-rising-sexual-abuse-by-foreigners


https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/nov/27/african-countries-a-new-frontier-for-child-sexual-exploitation-warns-report

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/western-paedophiles-target-kenya-children-for-sex-1792396.html

Don't forget, they also have a ton of local native paedos to deal with, which they understand, and that's why you don't see calls for deportation in these places.

Just do justice regardless of skin colour, religion or origin. Criminals are everywhere. If their skin colour or religion doesn't really matter then deportation of a criminal is pointless and a waste of resources. What would anyone be deporting that they don't have plenty of? Ultimately, it's just racism hiding behind the excuse.

posted on 13/12/23

Tory Britain in a nutshell

https://x.com/londoneconomic/status/1734592314738192386?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

posted on 13/12/23

BREAKING: ONS figures reveal that the UK economy contracted by 0.3% in October.

BREXIT FOOOOKING BRITAIN

posted on 13/12/23

Trump filling the Supreme Court with his people might just be the very thing that saves his ass.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4356111-clarence-thomas-recuse-trump-immunity-senate-democrats/amp/

posted on 13/12/23

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 minutes ago
Let’s break this down step by step;

1) Is the Gambian born convicted rapist in prison?

Two options, yes or no.

If yes, then they’re not out in society. So what is the issue?
If no, we move on to the next step.

2) Did this person go through onerous release assessment?

If yes, then we move to 3a.
If no, then move to 3b.

3a) with the person released having had an onerous assessment, then why are you grumbling as they’ll have been deemed suitable to be a productive member of society?

3b) they’ve been released but the release assessment wasn’t onerous (perhaps as thought was to be shipped overseas) then re arrest and carry out assessment -> back to Q2.


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Unemployable with a rape conviction, won't be deported either. Should he be entitled to benefits as an illegal immigrant?
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Unemployable?
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Well, yes. Being on the 'Register' must limit his job oppurunities and his only previous source of income appears to be dealing Class A drugs.

posted on 13/12/23

Excuse me. Can we please stop using that P word, it’s disgusting and offensive. Only the proper term from now on MAP. Minor attracted people

There’s a flag and everyone you ignorant fools. God…




But yes the UK & US are in the top 5 for this particular problem.

posted on 13/12/23

*and everything

posted on 13/12/23

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
Excuse me. Can we please stop using that P word, it’s disgusting and offensive. Only the proper term from now on MAP. Minor attracted people

There’s a flag and everyone you ignorant fools. God…
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But yes the UK & US are in the top 5 for this particular problem.
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They're therefore not compatible with world culture and should be deported from the world forthwith.

posted on 13/12/23

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 hours, 48 minutes ago
comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 6 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 54 minutes ago
Let’s break this down step by step;

1) Is the Gambian born convicted rapist in prison?

Two options, yes or no.

If yes, then they’re not out in society. So what is the issue?
If no, we move on to the next step.

2) Did this person go through onerous release assessment?

If yes, then we move to 3a.
If no, then move to 3b.

3a) with the person released having had an onerous assessment, then why are you grumbling as they’ll have been deemed suitable to be a productive member of society?

3b) they’ve been released but the release assessment wasn’t onerous (perhaps as thought was to be shipped overseas) then re arrest and carry out assessment -> back to Q2.


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Unemployable with a rape conviction, won't be deported either. Should he be entitled to benefits as an illegal immigrant?
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Unemployable?
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Well, yes. Being on the 'Register' must limit his job oppurunities and his only previous source of income appears to be dealing Class A drugs.
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Is this the first time you've come across this circumstance? Is it an isolated incident?

Lots of local people in the same situation one way or another. What do you do with those? Have a terrible criminal record and formerly just drug dealers or something like that.

What is the difference between this and the others in similar circumstances?

The difference is because it's a black guy and also an immigrant? That's all there is to it.

posted on 13/12/23

The difference is he’s an illegal immigrant, you’re the only person trying to make it a race issue.

posted on 13/12/23

Having started his sentence at HMP Dumfries, he was later sent to the State Hospital at ­Carstairs, Lanarkshire, after he was ­diagnosed with schizophrenia.

He was returned to the prison when ­doctors found his condition could be ­controlled with medication.

In January 2019, Cardos was served with a deportation order – but immediately launched a ­challenge with the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal.

He argued that the medicines he was receiving to treat his mental health would not be available in Gambia.
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What's the problem then? The system is working as it should, no?

posted on 13/12/23

Only 1% of voters think that the Rwanda bill will help stop the boats.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2023/12/12/one-percent-of-voters-believe-rwanda-bill-will-stop-boats/

Tories will still claim they are doing what the public want though.

posted on 13/12/23

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - "When the facts are in your favour, you argue the facts. When facts are not in your favour you argue the process." (U1282)
posted 8 minutes ago
Having started his sentence at HMP Dumfries, he was later sent to the State Hospital at ­Carstairs, Lanarkshire, after he was ­diagnosed with schizophrenia.

He was returned to the prison when ­doctors found his condition could be ­controlled with medication.

In January 2019, Cardos was served with a deportation order – but immediately launched a ­challenge with the Asylum and Immigration Tribunal.

He argued that the medicines he was receiving to treat his mental health would not be available in Gambia.
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What's the problem then? The system is working as it should, no?
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Did a bit of digging and found the judgement.

"The central issues on the appeal related to the treatment the Appellant would receive for his mental health in the Gambia. He has been prescribed a monthly depot injection of paliperidone to treat his paranoid schizophrenia since 2012/2013, such that his mental condition has been stable. The SSHD accepted in the appeal that depot injections of paliperidone, or risperidone, would not be available to the Appellant in the Gambia."

See also [12, 13, 14] in regard to the panel's findings in regard to the risks of deportation.

https://tribunalsdecisions.service.gov.uk/utiac/ui-2022-004930

The fundamental point of human rights in a civilised society is that they apply to all. Even those who have committed heinous acts.

https://www.un.org/en/global-issues/human-rights#:~:text=Human%20rights%20are%20rights%20inherent,and%20education%2C%20and%20many%20more.

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