To be honest I'm not sure why the SNP are using an opposition day to bring up a pointless ceasefire bill that Israel will take no notice of given how the UK is on its @rse in virtually every department right now.
I find it tough to criticise Labour playing dirty when the original SNP motion was done solely to embarrass Labour.
The Tories have a majority in the house and could remove the speaker anytime they wanted
Very dangerous precedent to set though, particularly when a massive Labour majority is less than a year away
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
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And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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Eh...naw! Labour don't have "5 families" from the same wing
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
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And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
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Nah man don't do that
The SNP motion was tailored to make life awkward for Starmer, it would have no impact on Israel bombing Gaza
If you want to invoke outrage at politicians playing politics while people die then you really can't solely point the finger at Labour for successfully tabling an amendment
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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This isn’t about what Starmers done, he’s can’t control minds. The speaker is responsible for his own actions but if you want to babble on with your usual schtick you crack on.
Ngl, I find it quite funny. You’re probably still blaming Labour for the financial crash
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
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And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
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Nah man don't do that
The SNP motion was tailored to make life awkward for Starmer, it would have no impact on Israel bombing Gaza
If you want to invoke outrage at politicians playing politics while people die then you really can't solely point the finger at Labour for successfully tabling an amendment
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Don't be so cynical!
Labour sidestepped the norms because half their MPs agreed with the SNP, who, have been calling for a ceasefire for months, in line with a majority of their constituents.
Anyway, Hoyle made his bed, he created this situation by diverting from normal practice and tradition, he has to go. It remains to be seen IF threats were made, the landscape changes again and drags Labour into the mire they might have made for themselves because they spat the dummy over wording.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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Is this a joke? At the last count there's about 12 of these ERG, NatCon et alnsub groups within the Tories holding little group meetings and conferences.
But hey let's ignore objective reality
Must admit though it's funny seeing Tories outraged over Hoyle not following procedure given they illegally prorogued parliament with no consequences.
Wouldn't the Tory amendment go through before the SNP one anyway? So if the Tory MPs had stayed and not withdrawn it, their motion would have passed with their majority and the SNP's wouldn't have been heard regardless of whether there was a Labour one.
Ironically, the Tories probably walked out to avoid being shown up by their own rebellion.
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
To be honest I'm not sure why the SNP are using an opposition day to bring up a pointless ceasefire bill that Israel will take no notice of given how the UK is on its @rse in virtually every department right now.
I find it tough to criticise Labour playing dirty when the original SNP motion was done solely to embarrass Labour.
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What the SNP were trying to do yesterday was obvious and crass. Yes they've had a constant (and laudible) position of demanding a ceasefire for months, but they also tried to play politics to get at Labour.
If the motion was truly intended to do send a message to Israel that the UK was united as one voice to stop the violence then they could have worked with other parties to reach a consensus. They refused to do that. That's their perogative and voters can make their own conclusions on that.
But what Labour did yesterday was significantly worse than what the SNP were up to. I think it's fair to say that Labour effectively attempted to create a precedence that erodes our democracy, and succeeded in doing so. I think that's a far bigger issue than the petty politicking of the SNP. And Labour knew exactly what they were doing as well.
For those defending Labour's actions, how will you feel if in a few months time when we have a Labour government the Tories pull exactly the same stunt? You'd be outraged and you'd be calling it out in the same way we all did when they were proroguing parliament and lying to the Queen and all that stuff.
The fact is every single actor in this sorry mess has come out of it badly, but the Labour actions are far more damaging in the long term.
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
I think it depends entirely on what Labour threatened, or if at all.
If all they did was plead with the speaker because they didn't want to be put in a precarious situation then I don't see anything wrong with that, as it's ultimately still the Hoyle's decision.
If they however basically blackmailed him that he would lose his job upon a Labour government, then that's a different kettle of fish.
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
Here's an example of SNP having an amendment selected which hijacked a Labour bill on a Labour opposition day in 2016.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2016-02-03/debates/16020363000002/PublicFinancesScotland
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
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This Real Fans guy is a realtard.
Dumbessed fook on the sight
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
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This Real Fans guy is a realtard.
Dumbessed fook on the sight
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As with most returning users he’s an utter chode and not very bright.
Why he keeps mentioning me I don’t know.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
comment by Szoboss - Glory Days (U6997)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
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He might be a jolly nice fella but his huge mistake got Starmer out of a massive hole.
He can apologise as many times as he likes but sometimes the fack up is so great that there's no way back.
Regardless of whether he gave in to the Starmer threats or the mob outside or a bit of both he showed tremendous weakness and as a former Labour mp he must have known how this looks.
Just stop Hoyle.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Szoboss - Glory Days (U6997)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
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He might be a jolly nice fella but his huge mistake got Starmer out of a massive hole.
He can apologise as many times as he likes but sometimes the fack up is so great that there's no way back.
Regardless of whether he gave in to the Starmer threats or the mob outside or a bit of both he showed tremendous weakness and as a former Labour mp he must have known how this looks.
Just stop Hoyle.
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I didn’t say he should keep his role. I said he would probably lose it. The position is untenable if you don’t have the trust of the house. He doesn’t so he should resign.
None of this has anything to do with the point I was raising with the previous poster though - that it shows “the type of man he is”. It doesn’t. He just made a mistake and will likely pay for it.
Labour lead at 26pts
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 46% (+2)
CON: 20% (-4)
REF: 13% (+2)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 7% (-1)
via @YouGov, 20 - 21 Feb
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1760726146516406539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Uhqyfk1pY
Plenty of senior Tory MP's saying Hoyle should stay, seems like he's just annoyed the Right Wingers.
It's the SNP's views that should be listened to.
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posted on 22/2/24
To be honest I'm not sure why the SNP are using an opposition day to bring up a pointless ceasefire bill that Israel will take no notice of given how the UK is on its @rse in virtually every department right now.
I find it tough to criticise Labour playing dirty when the original SNP motion was done solely to embarrass Labour.
posted on 22/2/24
The Tories have a majority in the house and could remove the speaker anytime they wanted
Very dangerous precedent to set though, particularly when a massive Labour majority is less than a year away
posted on 22/2/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
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And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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Eh...naw! Labour don't have "5 families" from the same wing
posted on 22/2/24
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
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Nah man don't do that
The SNP motion was tailored to make life awkward for Starmer, it would have no impact on Israel bombing Gaza
If you want to invoke outrage at politicians playing politics while people die then you really can't solely point the finger at Labour for successfully tabling an amendment
posted on 22/2/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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This isn’t about what Starmers done, he’s can’t control minds. The speaker is responsible for his own actions but if you want to babble on with your usual schtick you crack on.
Ngl, I find it quite funny. You’re probably still blaming Labour for the financial crash
posted on 22/2/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 43 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 12 minutes ago
I think the SNP did a good enough job of showing disregard for their constituents themselves.
They used opposition day as a tool to make things awkward for Starmer and then getting into bed with the Tories
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Navel gazing nonsense, if Labour wanted to raise their motion they should have raised their own on their own time and not, against convention and tradition, in another party's time.
I'm all for wearing a red rosette but Hoyle f**ked up and deserves everything he gets for kowtowing to Starmer pressure.
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Aye but on a day when everyone was playing politics Labour came out on top
SNP motion would likely have split the vote among labour MPs and caused headlines about rebellion against Starmer today
With the Labour amendment, it's now obscure moaning about the speaker breaking procedure
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And still the Palestinians die, ,Fk Starmer, Fk Lammy at least they got their political win, which is their priority.
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Nah man don't do that
The SNP motion was tailored to make life awkward for Starmer, it would have no impact on Israel bombing Gaza
If you want to invoke outrage at politicians playing politics while people die then you really can't solely point the finger at Labour for successfully tabling an amendment
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Don't be so cynical!
Labour sidestepped the norms because half their MPs agreed with the SNP, who, have been calling for a ceasefire for months, in line with a majority of their constituents.
Anyway, Hoyle made his bed, he created this situation by diverting from normal practice and tradition, he has to go. It remains to be seen IF threats were made, the landscape changes again and drags Labour into the mire they might have made for themselves because they spat the dummy over wording.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 35 seconds ago
Speaker, who is an individual person, does something.
PawlLabour!
Nauseatingly predictable.
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Haha, anybody of any political persuasion who can't see what Starmers done here needs to give their head a wobble.
Love the way he tries to portray his party as all singing from the same hymn sheet whereas infact they are the most divided party in Westminster.
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Is this a joke? At the last count there's about 12 of these ERG, NatCon et alnsub groups within the Tories holding little group meetings and conferences.
But hey let's ignore objective reality
posted on 22/2/24
Must admit though it's funny seeing Tories outraged over Hoyle not following procedure given they illegally prorogued parliament with no consequences.
posted on 22/2/24
Wouldn't the Tory amendment go through before the SNP one anyway? So if the Tory MPs had stayed and not withdrawn it, their motion would have passed with their majority and the SNP's wouldn't have been heard regardless of whether there was a Labour one.
Ironically, the Tories probably walked out to avoid being shown up by their own rebellion.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
To be honest I'm not sure why the SNP are using an opposition day to bring up a pointless ceasefire bill that Israel will take no notice of given how the UK is on its @rse in virtually every department right now.
I find it tough to criticise Labour playing dirty when the original SNP motion was done solely to embarrass Labour.
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What the SNP were trying to do yesterday was obvious and crass. Yes they've had a constant (and laudible) position of demanding a ceasefire for months, but they also tried to play politics to get at Labour.
If the motion was truly intended to do send a message to Israel that the UK was united as one voice to stop the violence then they could have worked with other parties to reach a consensus. They refused to do that. That's their perogative and voters can make their own conclusions on that.
But what Labour did yesterday was significantly worse than what the SNP were up to. I think it's fair to say that Labour effectively attempted to create a precedence that erodes our democracy, and succeeded in doing so. I think that's a far bigger issue than the petty politicking of the SNP. And Labour knew exactly what they were doing as well.
For those defending Labour's actions, how will you feel if in a few months time when we have a Labour government the Tories pull exactly the same stunt? You'd be outraged and you'd be calling it out in the same way we all did when they were proroguing parliament and lying to the Queen and all that stuff.
The fact is every single actor in this sorry mess has come out of it badly, but the Labour actions are far more damaging in the long term.
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
posted on 22/2/24
I think it depends entirely on what Labour threatened, or if at all.
If all they did was plead with the speaker because they didn't want to be put in a precarious situation then I don't see anything wrong with that, as it's ultimately still the Hoyle's decision.
If they however basically blackmailed him that he would lose his job upon a Labour government, then that's a different kettle of fish.
posted on 22/2/24
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
posted on 22/2/24
Here's an example of SNP having an amendment selected which hijacked a Labour bill on a Labour opposition day in 2016.
https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2016-02-03/debates/16020363000002/PublicFinancesScotland
posted on 22/2/24
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
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This Real Fans guy is a realtard.
Dumbessed fook on the sight
posted on 22/2/24
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I taught Szoboszlai how to cushion half volleys (U6374)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Real Fans Don't WUM (U23132)
posted 4 hours ago
Robbing still believes Santa Claus exists and Labour can do no wrong. Poor parenting.
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You don’t know a single thing about me, but you repeatedly mention me and that’s because I continually embarrass you, which is easy because you’re moron.
I’ll take a wild stab in the dark that you have no children though.
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This Real Fans guy is a realtard.
Dumbessed fook on the sight
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As with most returning users he’s an utter chode and not very bright.
Why he keeps mentioning me I don’t know.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by Szoboss - Glory Days (U6997)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
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He might be a jolly nice fella but his huge mistake got Starmer out of a massive hole.
He can apologise as many times as he likes but sometimes the fack up is so great that there's no way back.
Regardless of whether he gave in to the Starmer threats or the mob outside or a bit of both he showed tremendous weakness and as a former Labour mp he must have known how this looks.
Just stop Hoyle.
posted on 22/2/24
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 2 hours ago
comment by Szoboss - Glory Days (U6997)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 4 hours, 31 minutes ago
As for the speaker, he has to go. Today. To not even show up to deal with the ramifications of his bad decision speaks volumes for the type of man he is.
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That's ridiculously harsh. I agree with much of your post before this point but many of those MPs calling for him to resign are stressing that they consider him a good man who made an honest mistake, but that his position is untenable.
The type of man he is?! One that made a mistake. And it will probably cost him his role. But he apologised yesterday, apologised again today.
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He might be a jolly nice fella but his huge mistake got Starmer out of a massive hole.
He can apologise as many times as he likes but sometimes the fack up is so great that there's no way back.
Regardless of whether he gave in to the Starmer threats or the mob outside or a bit of both he showed tremendous weakness and as a former Labour mp he must have known how this looks.
Just stop Hoyle.
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I didn’t say he should keep his role. I said he would probably lose it. The position is untenable if you don’t have the trust of the house. He doesn’t so he should resign.
None of this has anything to do with the point I was raising with the previous poster though - that it shows “the type of man he is”. It doesn’t. He just made a mistake and will likely pay for it.
posted on 22/2/24
Labour lead at 26pts
Westminster voting intention:
LAB: 46% (+2)
CON: 20% (-4)
REF: 13% (+2)
LDEM: 9% (-)
GRN: 7% (-1)
via @YouGov, 20 - 21 Feb
posted on 22/2/24
https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/1760726146516406539
posted on 22/2/24
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5Uhqyfk1pY
posted on 22/2/24
Plenty of senior Tory MP's saying Hoyle should stay, seems like he's just annoyed the Right Wingers.
It's the SNP's views that should be listened to.
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