comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 51 minutes ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 14 minutes ago
It said it because some ballots had already been produced and they couldn't reprint them in time.
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No $h1t Sherlock.

But that's still what it said and they came 4th.

Galloway putting up GE candidates in big Muslim areas is going to be very problematic for Starmer.
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If you knew that was the case then why mention it?

I would expect the vast majority of those who voted yesterday would have known that Labour had disowned him given it was a by-election where the average Joe is a lot less likely to vote, so it's irrelevant what it said on the ballot.

Labour would have done zero campaigning and it's likely core labour voters would have stayed at home

I think calling it a landslide is a bit of a stretch when only 15% of the electorate voted for Galloway

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 seconds ago
Labour would have done zero campaigning and it's likely core labour voters would have stayed at home

I think calling it a landslide is a bit of a stretch when only 15% of the electorate voted for Galloway
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Yes but that's by election speak isn't it.

Look at the fuss that's been made about Labour turning around huge Tory majorities at recent BE's on turnouts that are virtually half of what a GE gets.

What Starmer will be worried about is Galloways gang taking enough votes off Labour to enable another party to get in. Exactly the same problem as the Tories have with Reform.

I'd be surprised if Galloway's party wins a seat in the next general election. They won't get enough votes to have an impact.

Plus in 6 months time or whenever the next GE is, Gaza might no longer be a key issue for some given there's talk we're finally close to a ceasefire.

Not that everyone will all forget what happened, but it's inevitable with time it slides down the priorities, similar to what we're seeing with Ukraine.

That hat is reason enough to understand he's not a serious threat.

Lol

The difference beetween Biden n Trump speaches at the border

If ever there was a stark comparisson of the 2 n how one is worthy of president n uther wurthy of solitary cofinement

comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lol

The difference beetween Biden n Trump speaches at the border

If ever there was a stark comparisson of the 2 n how one is worthy of president n uther wurthy of solitary cofinement
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Was the difference 1.18 million?

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lol

The difference beetween Biden n Trump speaches at the border

If ever there was a stark comparisson of the 2 n how one is worthy of president n uther wurthy of solitary cofinement
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Was the difference 1.18 million?
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No, it was 672,000

comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 hour, 55 minutes ago
comment by #4zA (U22472)
posted 31 minutes ago
Lol

The difference beetween Biden n Trump speaches at the border

If ever there was a stark comparisson of the 2 n how one is worthy of president n uther wurthy of solitary cofinement
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Was the difference 1.18 million?
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No, it was 672,000
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Don't you people understand what net means?
Must admit I didn't notice it and I blame Google for that.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
I see you're back Sat Nav. Ready to admit what Clap said was racist yet or are you going to carry on avoiding doing that and pretending it's everyone else's fault you can't do it?
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That was never up for debate; yes it was. The 16 year old comment was probably the worst part and was led to the deletion.
But given that this was never the point, I don’t see what you think you’re achieving.

comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
Then again, Arab is reacting to disgusting comments made by members the Israeli government, who have been responsible for horrible atrocities and are totalitarian knobheads.
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Ah this is why….

So it’s ok for one person to overreact to distrusting things others have said but it’s not ok for others?

All animals are equal



Some are more equal than others
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One of those are involved in a genocide.

We had the debate months and months ago about what if someone said something like that about Hitler, or Stalin, or Bin Laden. Would there be such an outcry from you? Or Putin? I’ve said we should black ops into Russia and take him out. Does that also get your condemnation?
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As mentioned above, if I had direct contact with said official I would say the same to them. But I don’t, we’re here on JA606.

Comparing that idiotic official spouting one speech of disgusting hatred which will only serve to make things worse is not comparable to Hitler, Stalin nor Bin Laden (two of whom are responsible for tens of millions of deaths).

I wouldn’t support a deliberate assassination, no. I would sacrifice however many of service men to bring the person to legal justice in the international courts.

Bin Laden is actually a perfect example of my perspective; what did killing him achieve? Rallies more extremists. Did the west betray him after having created him? Yes. Should have been captured and face trial and most likely convicted? Yes. But the US wouldn’t let that happen.
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You’ve missed the point and not answered the question.

This is about saying words to the effect of “I wish person X was dead”. In one instance, person X is a random poster on JA606, in another person X is responsible for committing atrocities/genocide.

Are these 2 people equal?
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No they’re not equal. But I don’t see what that has to do with me complaining about Arab’s horrendous posts nor you’re exaggerated comparisons with some of the most despicable people in history.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
Then again, Arab is reacting to disgusting comments made by members the Israeli government, who have been responsible for horrible atrocities and are totalitarian knobheads.
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Ah this is why….

So it’s ok for one person to overreact to distrusting things others have said but it’s not ok for others?

All animals are equal



Some are more equal than others
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One of those are involved in a genocide.

We had the debate months and months ago about what if someone said something like that about Hitler, or Stalin, or Bin Laden. Would there be such an outcry from you? Or Putin? I’ve said we should black ops into Russia and take him out. Does that also get your condemnation?
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As mentioned above, if I had direct contact with said official I would say the same to them. But I don’t, we’re here on JA606.

Comparing that idiotic official spouting one speech of disgusting hatred which will only serve to make things worse is not comparable to Hitler, Stalin nor Bin Laden (two of whom are responsible for tens of millions of deaths).

I wouldn’t support a deliberate assassination, no. I would sacrifice however many of service men to bring the person to legal justice in the international courts.

Bin Laden is actually a perfect example of my perspective; what did killing him achieve? Rallies more extremists. Did the west betray him after having created him? Yes. Should have been captured and face trial and most likely convicted? Yes. But the US wouldn’t let that happen.
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You’ve missed the point and not answered the question.

This is about saying words to the effect of “I wish person X was dead”. In one instance, person X is a random poster on JA606, in another person X is responsible for committing atrocities/genocide.

Are these 2 people equal?
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No they’re not equal. But I don’t see what that has to do with me complaining about Arab’s horrendous posts nor you’re exaggerated comparisons with some of the most despicable people in history.
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Perhaps it’s best to say nothing because countless others (with or without more influence) have said similar or worse?

Yeah that doesn’t make sense. We’re on this thread together, sharing opinions on matters of the moment and sometimes elements of our personal lives. If we have a poster calling for people to be dipped in acid, I will call it out for the reasons I set out at the time.

Bin Laden is actually a perfect example of my perspective; what did killing him achieve? Rallies more extremists. Did the west betray him after having created him? Yes. Should have been captured and face trial and most likely convicted? Yes. But the US wouldn’t let that happen.
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Unfortunately the US cannot be made answerable for these things.

comment by Stone Cold Mamba (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
Bin Laden is actually a perfect example of my perspective; what did killing him achieve? Rallies more extremists. Did the west betray him after having created him? Yes. Should have been captured and face trial and most likely convicted? Yes. But the US wouldn’t let that happen.
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Unfortunately the US cannot be made answerable for these things.
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Correct. Should be, but far too powerful

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
I see you're back Sat Nav. Ready to admit what Clap said was racist yet or are you going to carry on avoiding doing that and pretending it's everyone else's fault you can't do it?
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That was never up for debate; yes it was. The 16 year old comment was probably the worst part and was led to the deletion.
But given that this was never the point, I don’t see what you think you’re achieving.
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Tamwolf not only are you a liar you’re fecking stupid. Sat Nav’s whole argument was I never said all Muslims were imbred, the only proof you’ve produced was a deleted post🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hold my hands up I did go to far, I shouldn’t have posted what I did, but you’re an habitual liar, you can’t help yourself.

comment by clapfreesince2003 (U22207)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 28 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
I see you're back Sat Nav. Ready to admit what Clap said was racist yet or are you going to carry on avoiding doing that and pretending it's everyone else's fault you can't do it?
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That was never up for debate; yes it was. The 16 year old comment was probably the worst part and was led to the deletion.
But given that this was never the point, I don’t see what you think you’re achieving.
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Tamwolf not only are you a liar you’re fecking stupid. Sat Nav’s whole argument was I never said all Muslims were imbred, the only proof you’ve produced was a deleted post🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

I hold my hands up I did go to far, I shouldn’t have posted what I did, but you’re an habitual liar, you can’t help yourself.
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I'm not a liar. I may have misremembered, but so may have Sat Nav. We can't prove either way. It you who is the stupid one for thinking that evidence being removed is proof you didn't say something. Either way, the implication is there based on the context of the discussion after, so whether you used the word 'all' or not; you're still a racist piece of s***.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about 2 hours ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
I see you're back Sat Nav. Ready to admit what Clap said was racist yet or are you going to carry on avoiding doing that and pretending it's everyone else's fault you can't do it?
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That was never up for debate; yes it was. The 16 year old comment was probably the worst part and was led to the deletion.
But given that this was never the point, I don’t see what you think you’re achieving.
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Fair enough. Whilst it shouldn't be up for debate, you've previously defended people like Ttliv and then avoided calling them out when they go too far.

What was the point of that Sunak speech?

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 hours, 19 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 2 days, 8 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 hours, 20 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 - the M stands for meltdown 🤓 (U14177)
posted 1 day, 14 hours ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 hours, 43 minutes ago
comment by Black Hawk (U16342)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
Then again, Arab is reacting to disgusting comments made by members the Israeli government, who have been responsible for horrible atrocities and are totalitarian knobheads.
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Ah this is why….

So it’s ok for one person to overreact to distrusting things others have said but it’s not ok for others?

All animals are equal



Some are more equal than others
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One of those are involved in a genocide.

We had the debate months and months ago about what if someone said something like that about Hitler, or Stalin, or Bin Laden. Would there be such an outcry from you? Or Putin? I’ve said we should black ops into Russia and take him out. Does that also get your condemnation?
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As mentioned above, if I had direct contact with said official I would say the same to them. But I don’t, we’re here on JA606.

Comparing that idiotic official spouting one speech of disgusting hatred which will only serve to make things worse is not comparable to Hitler, Stalin nor Bin Laden (two of whom are responsible for tens of millions of deaths).

I wouldn’t support a deliberate assassination, no. I would sacrifice however many of service men to bring the person to legal justice in the international courts.

Bin Laden is actually a perfect example of my perspective; what did killing him achieve? Rallies more extremists. Did the west betray him after having created him? Yes. Should have been captured and face trial and most likely convicted? Yes. But the US wouldn’t let that happen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve missed the point and not answered the question.

This is about saying words to the effect of “I wish person X was dead”. In one instance, person X is a random poster on JA606, in another person X is responsible for committing atrocities/genocide.

Are these 2 people equal?
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No they’re not equal. But I don’t see what that has to do with me complaining about Arab’s horrendous posts nor you’re exaggerated comparisons with some of the most despicable people in history.
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I used those people specifically as they have been guilty of genocide and ethnic cleansing. Which is where we’re getting to with the current Israeli government, of whom these people are part. Had I said I wish that Wilhelm Frick or Herman Goering had been dipped in acid, would that have provoked an outcry from you? The people Arab had been saying this about are not good people, these are people using the language of genocide and are part of a government that’s up in court on genocide charges.

I just find the position you’ve taken very very odd and not giving due consideration to the context of who these people are, what they’ve said and what they’ve done. It is of course your position and you’re very much entitled to it, it’s just one that I find odd.

comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 4 minutes ago
What was the point of that Sunak speech?
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Declaring a new phase of the culture war?

comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 11 minutes ago
What was the point of that Sunak speech?
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To pretend that they are responsible for stoking division and pandering to extreme elements.

comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 11 minutes ago
What was the point of that Sunak speech?
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To pretend that they are responsible for stoking division and pandering to extreme elements.
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*aren't

Does Starmer get his own party political broadcast too now?

Funny how these tories seem to hate the slogan "From the river to the sea" Unless it's being spouted by Netanyahoo or one of his zionist cronies.