The right support this bill because they don't really do protests. They prefer terrorist attacks, lies and murder to get their point across so this bill will only hurt their rivals, who like to protest a lot instead of killing people to make a point.

Kill the ability to protest effectively and what do they think that will lead to eventually?

When sheet hits the fan as usual it will be everyone else's fault.

"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 4 hours, 7 minutes ago
Honestly I’m done with it. Not just fed up of lockdown but all the analysis, information, theories, reports, articles, videos. It’s like Brexit I just want to turn it off now.

Thank fk we have vaccines. If they took the typical 5 year range to be created, my god I have no idea what the world would have done. We couldn’t all keep locking down for years on end.
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So im effect;

“Fluck all this bull ah just want ma *insert what you deaore* back”

Wee niche reference for the Scottish board folk there

Can completely understand the resilience levels are low, it’s why I took over a month off from posting on this thread. I did do some lurking though obv!

I don’t necessarily have the same pessimism as NPE wrt what restrictions will be going on for years. Like much of what this government has done, it’ll take a check as to where the wind is blowing wrt the general population (read population where they want to win seats) and go with what would be populist there. Other than a fringe element of the back bench I don’t get the impression many are ideologues for lockdowns or restrictions or the opposite.

I think it boils down to this; if we can reasonably predict that the NHS will not be overwhelmed (at least no more than a normal winter), the tiering systems won’t happen. Things like masks may be recommended but not mandated is where I see it landing.

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What is a protest if it is not bothering anyone? I’ll tell you; useless. Are there people here who support the legislation?

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 11 minutes ago
There's probably some

However you've got to see how attacking the police at a "kill the bill" protest is going to play out in the Tory loving media
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Oh of course. It will no doubt be used by the supporters of the bill, and be spun as a shot in the foot tactically for those who are seeking to oppose or amend the bill. However, I’m not sure how one could effectively protest against the bill though, given the vast majority of conservative back benchers support it.

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Human is to error. There will always be some unjustified protest at some point. Some protest will always get out of hand at some point. Doesn't mean you take the opportunity to introduce draconian laws. This is what the Tories always wanted to do, they should not blame it on protests.

Not all future protests will be like this, but now all future protests will be subject to these laws. People should stop making excuses for this authoritarian idiots. People can be so stupid and shortsighted.

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Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?

This is actually the definition of stupidity.

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?

This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf

Latest trial of the AstraZeneca jab done on 22,000 people in US, Chile and Peru
Nobody who received the real vaccine developed severe Covd-19 or died of it
No severe side effects nor increased risk of blood clots in people in the study
Findings add to proof that the vaccine is safe and effective at stopping Covid
Research was carried out because US wanted US-based trial before approving
The Oxford/AstraZeneca Covid vaccine is 100 per cent effective at keeping people out of hospital, a US study has confirmed.

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Excellent news

Every adult in the UK will be asked to 'play their part' and test themselves for coronavirus TWICE a week to help ease the nation out of lockdown

Testing drive will encourage adults to test themselves twice a week and will be supplemented by sewage monitoring to quickly identify cases across the UK.

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Don’t understand the point in this though if pretty much every adult has been vaccinated, waste of money and time and probably more unhealthy sticking a swab up your nose and down your throat twice a week

And like the anti vax people would bother to do it or do it properly anyway

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 2 minutes ago
Every adult in the UK will be asked to 'play their part' and test themselves for coronavirus TWICE a week to help ease the nation out of lockdown

Testing drive will encourage adults to test themselves twice a week and will be supplemented by sewage monitoring to quickly identify cases across the UK.

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Don’t understand the point in this though if pretty much every adult has been vaccinated, waste of money and time and probably more unhealthy sticking a swab up your nose and down your throat twice a week

And like the anti vax people would bother to do it or do it properly anyway
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What is unhealthy about using the swab in the prescribed manner? What is it more unhealthy than?

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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?

This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.

sticking a swab down the back of your throat and swishing it around near your tonsils and back of your mouth (usually gagging too) and sticking it up your nose is not hygienic or healthy. You’re effectively irritating your tonsils, your throat and weakening your nose walls too

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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
And there's no proof yet (though I expect it to come)that being vaccinated stops the spread

It's really not that hard to get tested and anything to help save lives (and from a selfish POV my sanity)
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Early proof is already there when you see the breakdown of new daily cases by age.

Be decent if they roll out the Superdrug saliva test in mass

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Lawrence Gilder
@LawrenceGilder
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15h
#DailyCovidUpdate | Age Distribution of English Cases [21st Mar 2021]

[n=4,431]

0-9: 11.92% (528)
10-19: 16.23% (719)
20-29: 16.02% (710)
30-39: 20.11% (891)
40-49: 15.62% (692)
50-59: 10.90% (483)
60-69: 4.97% (220)
70-79: 2.03% (90)
80-89: 1.47% (65)
90+: 0.74% (33)

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This was yesterday’s, pretty useful info

comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
sticking a swab down the back of your throat and swishing it around near your tonsils and back of your mouth (usually gagging too) and sticking it up your nose is not hygienic or healthy. You’re effectively irritating your tonsils, your throat and weakening your nose walls too
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Presumably you’re using a clean (I.e. hygienic) swab? And is it near the tonsils or is it actually swabbing the tonsils? Have there been studies about the unhealthy impact of using hygienic swabs?

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 second ago
If youre a bit sensitive about the swab then hopefully there will be other ways that are as effective

Like those clever dogs who can smell it, god bless em
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Not me personally I’m just talking in general, although saying that after a few weeks of doing it I’d probably get seriously fed up of doing it

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago

comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?

This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank you happy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!