Gutted I missed the 10k though
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posted 4 seconds ago
Gutted I missed the 10k though
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We’ve reserved 20k for you mate
And welcome back
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
Gutted I missed the 10k though
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We’ve reserved 20k for you mate
And welcome back
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😂 bookmarked
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 second ago
If youre a bit sensitive about the swab then hopefully there will be other ways that are as effective
Like those clever dogs who can smell it, god bless em
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Not me personally I’m just talking in general, although saying that after a few weeks of doing it I’d probably get seriously fed up of doing it
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Oh I’d get fed up of it undoubtably after a few goes, no matter how far it gets up there. Like marriage really 🤷♂️
They’ve had a bit of a mare this week with press releases and comments. Implying even if you’ve been vaccinated you still won’t be able to go on holiday abroad anyway, you’ll have to test yourself twice a week too, and they want a 6 month extension to the coronavirus act.
I can get why and the hesitation but all they’re doing is p!ssing a lot of people off and making them wonder what the point is in even getting vaccinated as they’re still going to be living like dogs / restricted
As always it’s press or media releases too, government doesn’t clarify. Probably why the numbers protesting the lockdown were so huge this weekend compared to the usual minority
Plus they keep saying driven by data not dates and as I said what I don’t get is in the old tier system 70-80 cases per 100k population was good enough for tier 1 and 80-100 for tier 2 (basically next to no restrictions) and the whole U.K. has been under 100 for a month and under 70 for the last 3 weeks but we’re still effectively in tier 4. The rate for over 60’s has dropped to only 20 per 100k population too, and we have under 5,000 people in hospital.
But we’ve still got to wait months, don’t really get why
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comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Plus they keep saying driven by data not dates and as I said what I don’t get is in the old tier system 70-80 cases per 100k population was good enough for tier 1 and 80-100 for tier 2 (basically next to no restrictions) and the whole U.K. has been under 100 for a month and under 70 for the last 3 weeks but we’re still effectively in tier 4. The rate for over 60’s has dropped to only 20 per 100k population too, and we have under 5,000 people in hospital.
But we’ve still got to wait months, don’t really get why
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I believe there was updated guidance from the WHO on the different tiers, that’s what had been used as justification in Scotland for changing how the different tiers are defined. Personally (and this is unverified) I find cases per 100k a not hugely helpful measure when you have a significant proportion of the “likely to need hospital treatment” people already vaccinated, going back to the “Protect the NHS” point. When there wasn’t a vaccine the case numbers could be a fairly clear leading indicator of likely impact on health services but it is now less clear. A better measure could be cases per 100k per cohort. So you look at it by age groupings and then apply likelihood of hospitalisation at that level.
Yeh that makes sense bm, if anything they could use the cases per population for over 60’s which is now down to only 20.
Admissions are under 300 a day already and there’s under 5k in hospital and the current ratio seems to be 200 admissions a day but 500-600 discharges
It’s very likely by the middle of April we will be under 500 people in hospital
Plus by the middle of April all over 50’s should have immunity built up (would be 2/3 weeks after their first dose)
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
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Ah was just feeling really low, really worn out. We had taken the decision to not see anyone at Christmas and where we live we don’t know anyone, so my wife and I hadn’t had a face to face convo with anyone since the beginning of October. This weekend we did manage to see some folk outside so that’s really lifted my spirits. Also got a bottle of lagavulin couriered to me on Sunday so spirits were also quite literally lifted
Bmcl, glad your spirits are lifting. lagavulin, nice, I've yet to try it(I can't recall having tasted it)but purchased a bottle last week. It was game of thrones branded so selling at 20 quid discount. Picked it up for £45.
A large US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has confirmed that it is 79% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe disease.
The study also found no evidence for an increased risk of blood clots.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-trials-prove-safety-of-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-m7s5q6m67
This puts my mind at great ease especially when it comes to my mother, now can the rest of the world get a facking grip
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
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It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
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Ah was just feeling really low, really worn out. We had taken the decision to not see anyone at Christmas and where we live we don’t know anyone, so my wife and I hadn’t had a face to face convo with anyone since the beginning of October. This weekend we did manage to see some folk outside so that’s really lifted my spirits. Also got a bottle of lagavulin couriered to me on Sunday so spirits were also quite literally lifted
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It's so good to see you back and refreshed again Bmcl, not long left for freedom my friend.
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted about an hour ago
Plus by the middle of April all over 50’s should have immunity built up (would be 2/3 weeks after their first dose)
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Indeed the rhetoric has shifted considerably from save lives and protect the NHS to one of as near to zero Covid as is possible in the knowledge that there is no such thing.
The roadmap out now seems far too cautious but despite me willingness to allow more freedoms I've become so used to the April, May and June dates of further easing I'm quite happy to stick to what we have instead of trying to bring them forward. Cases hopefully should be negligible by then and at least businesses and the general population alike can plan.
What I'm not getting is this new agenda to prevent international travel in the notion that we continue to "protect" what we have gained and immune ourselves to new variants. New variants will always be a part of life so where does this end?
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted about a minute ago
A large US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has confirmed that it is 79% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe disease.
The study also found no evidence for an increased risk of blood clots.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-trials-prove-safety-of-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-m7s5q6m67
This puts my mind at great ease especially when it comes to my mother, now can the rest of the world get a facking grip
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Not a chance when there is an opportunity to politicise the thing to disguise failings.
The behaviour of the EU and a number of its countries is absolutely bonkers.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
EU is protecting itself and its member states
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It's not really should we reciprocate. It'll do far more harm to them.
It's not just the EU, there's countries in S.America, Africa and Asia that banned it for a bit.
And I was shocked to read today that a large number of our AZ vaccines have been imported, and we are yet to export any to other countries.
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comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 7 seconds ago
It's not just the EU, there's countries in S.America, Africa and Asia that banned it for a bit.
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Did they in turn rip up sound contracts?
These vaccines are not the EU's. They belong to private companies which were funded by the UK.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
EU is protecting itself and its member states
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It's not really should we reciprocate. It'll do far more harm to them.
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Where have I heard that before 🤔
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No idea mate
What contract was ripped up exactly?
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posted on 22/3/21
Gutted I missed the 10k though
posted on 22/3/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
Gutted I missed the 10k though
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We’ve reserved 20k for you mate
And welcome back
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 seconds ago
Gutted I missed the 10k though
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We’ve reserved 20k for you mate
And welcome back
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😂 bookmarked
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 second ago
If youre a bit sensitive about the swab then hopefully there will be other ways that are as effective
Like those clever dogs who can smell it, god bless em
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Not me personally I’m just talking in general, although saying that after a few weeks of doing it I’d probably get seriously fed up of doing it
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Oh I’d get fed up of it undoubtably after a few goes, no matter how far it gets up there. Like marriage really 🤷♂️
posted on 22/3/21
They’ve had a bit of a mare this week with press releases and comments. Implying even if you’ve been vaccinated you still won’t be able to go on holiday abroad anyway, you’ll have to test yourself twice a week too, and they want a 6 month extension to the coronavirus act.
I can get why and the hesitation but all they’re doing is p!ssing a lot of people off and making them wonder what the point is in even getting vaccinated as they’re still going to be living like dogs / restricted
As always it’s press or media releases too, government doesn’t clarify. Probably why the numbers protesting the lockdown were so huge this weekend compared to the usual minority
posted on 22/3/21
Plus they keep saying driven by data not dates and as I said what I don’t get is in the old tier system 70-80 cases per 100k population was good enough for tier 1 and 80-100 for tier 2 (basically next to no restrictions) and the whole U.K. has been under 100 for a month and under 70 for the last 3 weeks but we’re still effectively in tier 4. The rate for over 60’s has dropped to only 20 per 100k population too, and we have under 5,000 people in hospital.
But we’ve still got to wait months, don’t really get why
posted on 22/3/21
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posted on 22/3/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted 1 minute ago
Plus they keep saying driven by data not dates and as I said what I don’t get is in the old tier system 70-80 cases per 100k population was good enough for tier 1 and 80-100 for tier 2 (basically next to no restrictions) and the whole U.K. has been under 100 for a month and under 70 for the last 3 weeks but we’re still effectively in tier 4. The rate for over 60’s has dropped to only 20 per 100k population too, and we have under 5,000 people in hospital.
But we’ve still got to wait months, don’t really get why
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I believe there was updated guidance from the WHO on the different tiers, that’s what had been used as justification in Scotland for changing how the different tiers are defined. Personally (and this is unverified) I find cases per 100k a not hugely helpful measure when you have a significant proportion of the “likely to need hospital treatment” people already vaccinated, going back to the “Protect the NHS” point. When there wasn’t a vaccine the case numbers could be a fairly clear leading indicator of likely impact on health services but it is now less clear. A better measure could be cases per 100k per cohort. So you look at it by age groupings and then apply likelihood of hospitalisation at that level.
posted on 22/3/21
Yeh that makes sense bm, if anything they could use the cases per population for over 60’s which is now down to only 20.
Admissions are under 300 a day already and there’s under 5k in hospital and the current ratio seems to be 200 admissions a day but 500-600 discharges
It’s very likely by the middle of April we will be under 500 people in hospital
posted on 22/3/21
Plus by the middle of April all over 50’s should have immunity built up (would be 2/3 weeks after their first dose)
posted on 22/3/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
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Ah was just feeling really low, really worn out. We had taken the decision to not see anyone at Christmas and where we live we don’t know anyone, so my wife and I hadn’t had a face to face convo with anyone since the beginning of October. This weekend we did manage to see some folk outside so that’s really lifted my spirits. Also got a bottle of lagavulin couriered to me on Sunday so spirits were also quite literally lifted
posted on 22/3/21
Bmcl, glad your spirits are lifting. lagavulin, nice, I've yet to try it(I can't recall having tasted it)but purchased a bottle last week. It was game of thrones branded so selling at 20 quid discount. Picked it up for £45.
posted on 22/3/21
A large US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has confirmed that it is 79% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe disease.
The study also found no evidence for an increased risk of blood clots.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-trials-prove-safety-of-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-m7s5q6m67
This puts my mind at great ease especially when it comes to my mother, now can the rest of the world get a facking grip
posted on 22/3/21
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Aye, and now national long term laws are going to be made based on what has happened the last few months only. What about the last few hundred years and the next few hundred years?
This is actually the definition of stupidity.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does feel like an inappropriate time to be discussing such legislation, when temporary restrictions are in place. Additionally, the bill itself is unjustifiable when significant parts of it don’t appear to have been referenced within their manifesto (I.e. there is no reasonable mandate for them to pursue the policy)
https://assets-global.website-files.com/5da42e2cae7ebd3f8bde353c/5dda924905da587992a064ba_Conservative%202019%20Manifesto.pdf
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I hadn't even really looked at that manifesto. You're absolutely spot on, and welcome back.
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Thank youhappy to be in a position where I feel comfortable and resilient enough to be back!
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Why? What happened?
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Ah was just feeling really low, really worn out. We had taken the decision to not see anyone at Christmas and where we live we don’t know anyone, so my wife and I hadn’t had a face to face convo with anyone since the beginning of October. This weekend we did manage to see some folk outside so that’s really lifted my spirits. Also got a bottle of lagavulin couriered to me on Sunday so spirits were also quite literally lifted
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It's so good to see you back and refreshed again Bmcl, not long left for freedom my friend.
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Oscar. #TeamFury (U12980)
posted about an hour ago
Plus by the middle of April all over 50’s should have immunity built up (would be 2/3 weeks after their first dose)
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Indeed the rhetoric has shifted considerably from save lives and protect the NHS to one of as near to zero Covid as is possible in the knowledge that there is no such thing.
The roadmap out now seems far too cautious but despite me willingness to allow more freedoms I've become so used to the April, May and June dates of further easing I'm quite happy to stick to what we have instead of trying to bring them forward. Cases hopefully should be negligible by then and at least businesses and the general population alike can plan.
What I'm not getting is this new agenda to prevent international travel in the notion that we continue to "protect" what we have gained and immune ourselves to new variants. New variants will always be a part of life so where does this end?
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted about a minute ago
A large US trial of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has confirmed that it is 79% effective in preventing symptomatic Covid-19 and 100% effective against severe disease.
The study also found no evidence for an increased risk of blood clots.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/us-trials-prove-safety-of-oxford-astrazeneca-covid-vaccine-m7s5q6m67
This puts my mind at great ease especially when it comes to my mother, now can the rest of the world get a facking grip
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Not a chance when there is an opportunity to politicise the thing to disguise failings.
The behaviour of the EU and a number of its countries is absolutely bonkers.
posted on 22/3/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 22/3/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
EU is protecting itself and its member states
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It's not really should we reciprocate. It'll do far more harm to them.
posted on 22/3/21
It's not just the EU, there's countries in S.America, Africa and Asia that banned it for a bit.
posted on 22/3/21
And I was shocked to read today that a large number of our AZ vaccines have been imported, and we are yet to export any to other countries.
posted on 22/3/21
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 22/3/21
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 7 seconds ago
It's not just the EU, there's countries in S.America, Africa and Asia that banned it for a bit.
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Did they in turn rip up sound contracts?
These vaccines are not the EU's. They belong to private companies which were funded by the UK.
posted on 22/3/21
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted about a minute ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
EU is protecting itself and its member states
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It's not really should we reciprocate. It'll do far more harm to them.
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Where have I heard that before 🤔
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No idea mate
posted on 22/3/21
What contract was ripped up exactly?
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