No clicks for the Daily Mail for me. Its the absolute worse than for ad tracking and ad tech, creepy AF. Only to be expected from the business that gave us the sidebar of shame..click click click...
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"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
Two days before the last election
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No clicks for the Daily Mail for me. Its the absolute worse than for ad tracking and ad tech, creepy AF. Only to be expected from the business that gave us the sidebar of shame..click click click...
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Don’t you worry lad, Sat Nav is here to show you the way
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Now some posters might wonder why I decided to return on precisely the same day an independent inquiry cleared sturgeon of breaking the ministerial code 😉
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Haha.
You resemble a bear coming out of hibernation, lol.
But thinner.
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Definitely not thinnerbeen a lot of comfort eating this last few weeks
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I have not seen my feet since last March, man.
We're you ok...I read admin saying he was glad you felt better?
Not being nosey, just concerned, as last few months have melted my heid with WFH, home schooling, locked in and cabin fever meets beer.... and you can tell me to fek aff or just move on, haha.
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Nothing specific, and I think probably similar to yourself. Also, you’ll be aware of some of the stuff that happened over last 6 months (dad in law dying, multiple miscarriages) and I think it was really that plus the face to face isolation. We didn’t see anyone over Christmas and don’t know any folk locally to us so hadn’t spoken to anyone face to face since beginning of October. Did manage to see folk outside this weekend though so that’s really helped lift the spirits.
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Sorry mate, I remember your father in law, but missed out on the miscarriages...my wife had one and then a year or so later we had a beautiful daughter, so keep trying if that is not inappropriate.
We are social animals and need other people to bounce off and laugh with, and you are unfortunate living where you do not know many people locally.
Hopefully, you can arrange to meet folk again outside soon and I have been doing this a few times a week, meeting mates for a dander or cycle, as we cut ourselves off for months, as we were told to do, stay home stay safe etc.
If you are WFH too you miss banter at work and seeing folk and then when work ends, you have not got that wee buzz or going home either.
There will be massive mental health issues coming, as we ease out of lockdown and discover all ages have been damaged over the last month's.
Hope you and your other half have good news on the baby front in the near future... and via vaccine we all return to some semblance of new normal.
Pandemic measures are costing £500million a day in lost output, while adding £1billion a day to the national debt.
Today's lockdown audit illustrates the crippling impact that 12 months of curbs have had on swathes of the economy, with pubs and restaurants losing an estimated £1.7billion a week, and some 15,000 shops expected to never reopen.
The grim Covid death toll, which yesterday hit 126,155, is well known. But today's analysis also reveals the dire impact of the past year on the nation's health. The NHS waiting list has soared to a record high of nearly 4.6million, with 300,000 waiting more than a year for treatment.
On cancer, 44,000 fewer patients started treatment last year and there were 4.4million fewer life-saving diagnostic tests. An extra 6,000 people died of heart disease and stroke. Mental health services saw a 27,000 rise in individuals seeking support, while child eating disorders doubled
The number of face-to-face GP consultations fell by almost 80million. Millions also missed out on cancer checks, while tens of thousands missed out on dementia care. Many others missed heart operations, diabetes checks, rehabilitation for asthma and lung disease and stroke treatment – leaving many with disabilities that could have been avoided.
Cancer treatment
The number of patients referred to cancer specialists and starting treatment has nose-dived.
Experts fear many have delayed care or been unable to access it, and will be diagnosed when their tumours are too advanced to cure.
Cancer Research UK estimates three million fewer people than normal had a cancer screening from March to September as programmes were ‘effectively paused’.
Almost 44,000 fewer started treatment for the disease in the UK from April 2020 to January 2021 compared with the same period a year earlier.
There were 4.4 million fewer diagnostic tests in England between March and January and 400,000 fewer urgent suspected cancer referrals.
Michelle Mitchell, chief executive of Cancer Research UK, said: ‘For the first time in decades, this country is faced with the prospect of cancer survival going backwards.’
Genevieve Edwards, chief executive of Bowel Cancer UK, said the pandemic has had an ‘enormous impact’ with screening, tests and treatment delayed as a ‘direct result’.
Prostate Cancer UK said 8,600 fewer men started treatment from April to January. Angela Culhane, the charity’s chief executive, said: ‘Many more men could be diagnosed when it is too late for them to be cured.’
Heart attacks and strokes
Deaths caused by heart attacks and strokes rocketed during the lockdown as operations were cancelled and care was delayed.
There have been more than 6,000 more deaths than usual from heart diseases and strokes during the pandemic and experts warn the numbers could be ‘just the tip of the iceberg’ as the true toll of lockdown may not be known for years.
At least 12,000 fewer heart operations than expected took place in England in the year to November 2020, the British Heart Foundation (BHF) says, while prescriptions for statins and blood thinners fell by 25 per cent. Other treatments, such as fitting stents, have been impacted too, with 100,000 fewer last year than in 2019.
The Institute for Public Policy Research found 23,000 cases of heart failure and up to 90,000 coronary heart disease cases have been missed.The institute estimates the disruption will lead to an extra 12,000 avoidable heart attacks and strokes over the next five years.
Dr Sonya Babu-Narayan, associate medical director at the BHF, said: ‘We’re now left with a ticking timebomb of unmet early detection and treatment.’
Mental health
Bereavement, forced separation from loved ones and financial woes have all hit the nation’s mental health.
The number of adults suffering with depression doubled during lockdown, with one in five affected last summer. And emergency referrals to NHS mental health services hit record highs in June and July.
One in six children and teenagers are now thought to have a mental health disorder, up from one in nine three years ago. And the number of urgent referrals for children with eating disorders doubled last year.
There were almost 1.4million patients in contact with NHS mental health services in December last year – an increase of 27,000 from a year earlier.
Dr Trudi Seneviratne, of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said: ‘Social isolation, loneliness, stress and anxiety, domestic abuse, bereavement, financial difficulties, unemployment and Covid-19 infection are all factors.’
Mental health charity Sane said that at some points during the pandemic almost a third of its callers were suicidal.
Waiting lists
The numbers accessing non-Covid care plummeted and waiting lists hit a record high as the NHS reorganised to focus on coronavirus.
Many struggled to see their GP in person or saw operations cancelled. Others delayed seeking care out of fear of catching the virus or after hearing ministers repeatedly tell them to ‘stay at home to protect the NHS’.
Experts fear thousands may have died or suffered long-term harm as a result and warn the backlog will take years to clear.
There were 32million fewer GP appointments in 2020 than in 2019, with 79.4million fewer in-person consultations. Attendances at A&E fell from 25.64million to 18.77million, with data suggesting even those with life-threatening conditions stayed away.
Family doctors made 5.9million fewer referrals for elective treatment last year – a fall of a third. Planned operations fell by 56 per cent from March to May compared with the same period the previous year. Waiting lists climbed to a high of 4.59million, this is forecast to surge to ten million as lockdown eases.
Dementia
Coronavirus has dealt a cruel blow to dementia patients and those waiting for a diagnosis.
Those living with the disease rely on regular contact with loved ones to put them at ease but over the last year have often been separated by lockdown laws.
Dementia diagnosis rates have also fallen with around 43,000 people potentially having missed out on a diagnosis over the past year, denying them access to specialist care and treatments.
The rate in England has fallen from 67 per cent before the pandemic to just 61 per cent now.
Alzheimer’s charities also say GP dementia assessments fell by 13,000 a month during the pandemic, while referrals to memory clinics fell by 1,000 a month.
Meanwhile researchers have discovered an increase in the use of antipsychotic medication among those with memory loss. Increased use of the drugs, which can have serious side-effects, suggests more people are suffering distress.
One in four adults who have died from coronavirus had dementia.
But there has also been an increase in non-Covid related deaths among dementia patients.
Deaths in private homes from dementia and Alzheimer’s are 75 per cent higher in England than the five-year average.
Hilary Evans, chief executive of Alzheimer’s Research UK, said: ‘People affected by dementia have been hit especially hard by Covid-19 and the drop in the diagnosis and referral rates means the pandemic will continue to have knock-on effects for years to come
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"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
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Guardian and working classes???
Goes together like Rangers and Celtic.
Piers and Meghan
Sturgeon and Salmond.
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There was a five year period when young people believed organising through official democratic processes could bring about significant change. That ended. It could be a good 5 years for glaziers.
^ There's Novara Media claiming street violence is our fault for not voting in Corbyn.
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Is Novara where that communist Ash Sarkar works?
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Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp.
and yes she does do work for Novara, but they have a lot of good voices
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I find it hard to take communists seriously tbh
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China is a case in point.
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"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
Two days before the last election
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Guardian and working classes???
Goes together like Rangers and Celtic.
Piers and Meghan
Sturgeon and Salmond.
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Indeed - very much an oil and water situation.
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Many people from working class backgrounds have never read the Guardian in their lives and buy red tops, Mail, Express etc or no paper at all.
This does not make the Guardian bad people or mean Boris is brilliant, but are Guardian reporters best placed to speak for the red wall.
I was told over and over that the working class backed Corbyn, but like any amateur political scientist could tell you, Corbyn and Labour have been losing the working class vote for decades now.
Millions of white working class Brits especially and Corbyn Labour view life and politics from diametrically opposed positions.
Again, this is just how it is and how Corbynism attracted students and Bame and activists and some new working class voters, but lost millions at the same time who viewed Corbyn and many around him as hostile to them and their beliefs, identity, social and economic aspirations and basically, being quite anti- British.
Not a good look if you wish to lead a people and country, lol
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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Not a gotcha query, but do you believe Sturgeon got it right and Boris got it wrong regarding covid, and what was the difference between the two?
I can see miniscule timing issues is all between the two nations.
And very few nations got covid right, globally.
I am not defending Boris, as they themselves will admit they acted too slowly or got PPE wrong, but out with a few states, covid beat humans.
I was all for so called lockdown, but many of us never behaved as asked and restrictions will now lead to mental problems, lost jobs, lost echoing and lost lives, so whatever London did or does, they could not win.
It was and is an airborne global virus, and the third one from China after Sars n bird flu, but one would think conservatives created covid as that is where so much ire goes.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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No it's based on SAGE stated that they informed the government to do X, Y, Z and the government then not doing that.
It was all over the news, one example was obviously the circuit break lockdown that was advised by SAGE that never appeared.
Or the advise against opening up for 5 days at Christmas but that would have apparently been inhuman to cancel christmas gatherins from a government who then went on to cancel christmas gatherings?
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I’m not cheerleading for the government. I am challenging you on your unsubstantiated claim that we wouldn’t be in this mess if we had acted faster.
Ah SAGE, yes the brilliant SAGE...Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
Yeah forgive me for not wanting to follow their advice.
Peru vs Chile
California vs Florida
Colombia vs Mexico
North Jutland vs North Jutland
We have the third worst performance with influenza in Europe, another virus.
We had months and months last year May-September with no lockdown and the numbers were minimal. Everywhere in Europe got a second wave in the winter like we did. Did they all not act fast enough?
Like I said, you have your opinion which is fine but it’s not based on facts. You have no evidence to support your initial claim.
The fact that you accuse others of party politics rather than simply debating the pros & cons of locking down or locking down sooner tells me that you’re the one who is politically driven, not me.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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No it's based on SAGE stated that they informed the government to do X, Y, Z and the government then not doing that.
It was all over the news, one example was obviously the circuit break lockdown that was advised by SAGE that never appeared.
Or the advise against opening up for 5 days at Christmas but that would have apparently been inhuman to cancel christmas gatherins from a government who then went on to cancel christmas gatherings?
you can cheerlead for them all you like
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I’m not cheerleading for the government. I am challenging you on your unsubstantiated claim that we wouldn’t be in this mess if we had acted faster.
Ah SAGE, yes the brilliant SAGE...Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
Yeah forgive me for not wanting to follow their advice.
Peru vs Chile
California vs Florida
Colombia vs Mexico
North Jutland vs North Jutland
We have the third worst performance with influenza in Europe, another virus.
We had months and months last year May-September with no lockdown and the numbers were minimal. Everywhere in Europe got a second wave in the winter like we did. Did they all not act fast enough?
Like I said, you have your opinion which is fine but it’s not based on facts. You have no evidence to support your initial claim.
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The model that claimed 500k deaths was one that was linked to us doing nothing to stop it?
now the country obviously never put any restrictions in place and this model was proved wrong..
wait a minute? several lockdowns? local tiered systems?
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Are you feeling ok? It’s a bit late so maybe you’re not understanding something.
The SAGE model predicted that the UK would suffer 500,000 deaths from covid if we didn’t lockdown et cetera.
That same model was applied to Sweden (a country that didn’t lockdown) and that model predicted 96,000 deaths for Sweden and the last time I checked there were on 13,000 but that was a week or two ago now. But nowhere near 96,000.
Understand now?
Another 10 innocent people shot to death in America, 8 innocents shot a few days ago.
WTF is going on with Americans that massacre is a growing method of attempted suicide?
Wild asked Davie: “In your own report last year of 268 pages, do you know how many union flags were pictured in any of the graphics?”
Davie replied: “In all the briefings I got for this meeting, that was not one of them.”
“Zero,” Wild said.
A former special adviser who is married to Natalie Evans, the leader of the House of Lords, Wild said: “Maybe in the annual report for this year perhaps you could include some imagery around the union flag. It might be welcomed by some of my constituents.”
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/22/bbc-chief-told-to-use-more-than-one-union-jack-in-annual-report
This is who we are now.
1 year since lockdown began.
Minutes silence for the 126,172 poor souls that have passed at 1200h and a candle on your doorstep at 2000h in remembrance.
Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
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Just out of interest, the use of this model to Sweden, was it supported by SAGE? Working with these kinds of models (well specifically mortality projection models but using similar sorts of maths) you can’t just take one model built to attempt to replicate behaviour in one country and apply it to another, there are a large number of in built assumptions and EJs which mean the model is effectively bespoke, built for its specific use. I would be surprised if the developers of the model were supporting the use of it in modelling cases or mortality estimates in other countries.
And as has been mentioned above the 500k deaths was on the basis of no actions being taken, I believe this was discussed and concluded upon around 10 months ago on this thread. Similarly I believe (happy to be corrected of course) that the 100-130k was both without the introduction of the vaccine and without allowing for the current lockdown.
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No clicks for the Daily Mail for me. Its the absolute worse than for ad tracking and ad tech, creepy AF. Only to be expected from the business that gave us the sidebar of shame..click click click...
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 9 minutes ago
"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
Two days before the last election
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No clicks for the Daily Mail for me. Its the absolute worse than for ad tracking and ad tech, creepy AF. Only to be expected from the business that gave us the sidebar of shame..click click click...
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Don’t you worry lad, Sat Nav is here to show you the way
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Now some posters might wonder why I decided to return on precisely the same day an independent inquiry cleared sturgeon of breaking the ministerial code 😉
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Haha.
You resemble a bear coming out of hibernation, lol.
But thinner.
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Definitely not thinnerbeen a lot of comfort eating this last few weeks
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I have not seen my feet since last March, man.
We're you ok...I read admin saying he was glad you felt better?
Not being nosey, just concerned, as last few months have melted my heid with WFH, home schooling, locked in and cabin fever meets beer.... and you can tell me to fek aff or just move on, haha.
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Nothing specific, and I think probably similar to yourself. Also, you’ll be aware of some of the stuff that happened over last 6 months (dad in law dying, multiple miscarriages) and I think it was really that plus the face to face isolation. We didn’t see anyone over Christmas and don’t know any folk locally to us so hadn’t spoken to anyone face to face since beginning of October. Did manage to see folk outside this weekend though so that’s really helped lift the spirits.
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Sorry mate, I remember your father in law, but missed out on the miscarriages...my wife had one and then a year or so later we had a beautiful daughter, so keep trying if that is not inappropriate.
We are social animals and need other people to bounce off and laugh with, and you are unfortunate living where you do not know many people locally.
Hopefully, you can arrange to meet folk again outside soon and I have been doing this a few times a week, meeting mates for a dander or cycle, as we cut ourselves off for months, as we were told to do, stay home stay safe etc.
If you are WFH too you miss banter at work and seeing folk and then when work ends, you have not got that wee buzz or going home either.
There will be massive mental health issues coming, as we ease out of lockdown and discover all ages have been damaged over the last month's.
Hope you and your other half have good news on the baby front in the near future... and via vaccine we all return to some semblance of new normal.
posted on 22/3/21
Pandemic measures are costing £500million a day in lost output, while adding £1billion a day to the national debt.
Today's lockdown audit illustrates the crippling impact that 12 months of curbs have had on swathes of the economy, with pubs and restaurants losing an estimated £1.7billion a week, and some 15,000 shops expected to never reopen.
The grim Covid death toll, which yesterday hit 126,155, is well known. But today's analysis also reveals the dire impact of the past year on the nation's health. The NHS waiting list has soared to a record high of nearly 4.6million, with 300,000 waiting more than a year for treatment.
On cancer, 44,000 fewer patients started treatment last year and there were 4.4million fewer life-saving diagnostic tests. An extra 6,000 people died of heart disease and stroke. Mental health services saw a 27,000 rise in individuals seeking support, while child eating disorders doubled
The number of face-to-face GP consultations fell by almost 80million. Millions also missed out on cancer checks, while tens of thousands missed out on dementia care. Many others missed heart operations, diabetes checks, rehabilitation for asthma and lung disease and stroke treatment – leaving many with disabilities that could have been avoided.
Cancer treatment
The number of patients referred to cancer specialists and starting treatment has nose-dived.
Experts fear many have delayed care or been unable to access it, and will be diagnosed when their tumours are too advanced to cure.
Cancer Research UK estimates three million fewer people than normal had a cancer screening from March to September as programmes were ‘effectively paused’.
Almost 44,000 fewer started treatment for the disease in the UK from April 2020 to January 2021 compared with the same period a year earlier.
There were 4.4 million fewer diagnostic tests in England between March and January and 400,000 fewer urgent suspected cancer referrals.
Michelle Mitchell, chief executive of Cancer Research UK, said: ‘For the first time in decades, this country is faced with the prospect of cancer survival going backwards.’
Genevieve Edwards, chief executive of Bowel Cancer UK, said the pandemic has had an ‘enormous impact’ with screening, tests and treatment delayed as a ‘direct result’.
Prostate Cancer UK said 8,600 fewer men started treatment from April to January. Angela Culhane, the charity’s chief executive, said: ‘Many more men could be diagnosed when it is too late for them to be cured.’
Heart attacks and strokes
Deaths caused by heart attacks and strokes rocketed during the lockdown as operations were cancelled and care was delayed.
There have been more than 6,000 more deaths than usual from heart diseases and strokes during the pandemic and experts warn the numbers could be ‘just the tip of the iceberg’ as the true toll of lockdown may not be known for years.
At least 12,000 fewer heart operations than expected took place in England in the year to November 2020, the British Heart Foundation (BHF) says, while prescriptions for statins and blood thinners fell by 25 per cent. Other treatments, such as fitting stents, have been impacted too, with 100,000 fewer last year than in 2019.
The Institute for Public Policy Research found 23,000 cases of heart failure and up to 90,000 coronary heart disease cases have been missed.The institute estimates the disruption will lead to an extra 12,000 avoidable heart attacks and strokes over the next five years.
Dr Sonya Babu-Narayan, associate medical director at the BHF, said: ‘We’re now left with a ticking timebomb of unmet early detection and treatment.’
Mental health
Bereavement, forced separation from loved ones and financial woes have all hit the nation’s mental health.
The number of adults suffering with depression doubled during lockdown, with one in five affected last summer. And emergency referrals to NHS mental health services hit record highs in June and July.
One in six children and teenagers are now thought to have a mental health disorder, up from one in nine three years ago. And the number of urgent referrals for children with eating disorders doubled last year.
There were almost 1.4million patients in contact with NHS mental health services in December last year – an increase of 27,000 from a year earlier.
Dr Trudi Seneviratne, of the Royal College of Psychiatrists, said: ‘Social isolation, loneliness, stress and anxiety, domestic abuse, bereavement, financial difficulties, unemployment and Covid-19 infection are all factors.’
Mental health charity Sane said that at some points during the pandemic almost a third of its callers were suicidal.
Waiting lists
The numbers accessing non-Covid care plummeted and waiting lists hit a record high as the NHS reorganised to focus on coronavirus.
Many struggled to see their GP in person or saw operations cancelled. Others delayed seeking care out of fear of catching the virus or after hearing ministers repeatedly tell them to ‘stay at home to protect the NHS’.
Experts fear thousands may have died or suffered long-term harm as a result and warn the backlog will take years to clear.
There were 32million fewer GP appointments in 2020 than in 2019, with 79.4million fewer in-person consultations. Attendances at A&E fell from 25.64million to 18.77million, with data suggesting even those with life-threatening conditions stayed away.
Family doctors made 5.9million fewer referrals for elective treatment last year – a fall of a third. Planned operations fell by 56 per cent from March to May compared with the same period the previous year. Waiting lists climbed to a high of 4.59million, this is forecast to surge to ten million as lockdown eases.
Dementia
Coronavirus has dealt a cruel blow to dementia patients and those waiting for a diagnosis.
Those living with the disease rely on regular contact with loved ones to put them at ease but over the last year have often been separated by lockdown laws.
Dementia diagnosis rates have also fallen with around 43,000 people potentially having missed out on a diagnosis over the past year, denying them access to specialist care and treatments.
The rate in England has fallen from 67 per cent before the pandemic to just 61 per cent now.
Alzheimer’s charities also say GP dementia assessments fell by 13,000 a month during the pandemic, while referrals to memory clinics fell by 1,000 a month.
Meanwhile researchers have discovered an increase in the use of antipsychotic medication among those with memory loss. Increased use of the drugs, which can have serious side-effects, suggests more people are suffering distress.
One in four adults who have died from coronavirus had dementia.
But there has also been an increase in non-Covid related deaths among dementia patients.
Deaths in private homes from dementia and Alzheimer’s are 75 per cent higher in England than the five-year average.
Hilary Evans, chief executive of Alzheimer’s Research UK, said: ‘People affected by dementia have been hit especially hard by Covid-19 and the drop in the diagnosis and referral rates means the pandemic will continue to have knock-on effects for years to come
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"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
Two days before the last election
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Guardian and working classes???
Goes together like Rangers and Celtic.
Piers and Meghan
Sturgeon and Salmond.
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Michael Walker
@michaeljswalker
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There was a five year period when young people believed organising through official democratic processes could bring about significant change. That ended. It could be a good 5 years for glaziers.
^ There's Novara Media claiming street violence is our fault for not voting in Corbyn.
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Is Novara where that communist Ash Sarkar works?
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Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp.
and yes she does do work for Novara, but they have a lot of good voices
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I find it hard to take communists seriously tbh
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China is a case in point.
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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"Ash is a great journalist, smart and sharp."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/dec/10/myth-labour-lost-working-class-pollsters
Two days before the last election
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Guardian and working classes???
Goes together like Rangers and Celtic.
Piers and Meghan
Sturgeon and Salmond.
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Indeed - very much an oil and water situation.
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Many people from working class backgrounds have never read the Guardian in their lives and buy red tops, Mail, Express etc or no paper at all.
This does not make the Guardian bad people or mean Boris is brilliant, but are Guardian reporters best placed to speak for the red wall.
I was told over and over that the working class backed Corbyn, but like any amateur political scientist could tell you, Corbyn and Labour have been losing the working class vote for decades now.
Millions of white working class Brits especially and Corbyn Labour view life and politics from diametrically opposed positions.
Again, this is just how it is and how Corbynism attracted students and Bame and activists and some new working class voters, but lost millions at the same time who viewed Corbyn and many around him as hostile to them and their beliefs, identity, social and economic aspirations and basically, being quite anti- British.
Not a good look if you wish to lead a people and country, lol
posted on 22/3/21
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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if you like
It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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Not a gotcha query, but do you believe Sturgeon got it right and Boris got it wrong regarding covid, and what was the difference between the two?
I can see miniscule timing issues is all between the two nations.
And very few nations got covid right, globally.
I am not defending Boris, as they themselves will admit they acted too slowly or got PPE wrong, but out with a few states, covid beat humans.
I was all for so called lockdown, but many of us never behaved as asked and restrictions will now lead to mental problems, lost jobs, lost echoing and lost lives, so whatever London did or does, they could not win.
It was and is an airborne global virus, and the third one from China after Sars n bird flu, but one would think conservatives created covid as that is where so much ire goes.
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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if you like
It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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No it's based on SAGE stated that they informed the government to do X, Y, Z and the government then not doing that.
It was all over the news, one example was obviously the circuit break lockdown that was advised by SAGE that never appeared.
Or the advise against opening up for 5 days at Christmas but that would have apparently been inhuman to cancel christmas gatherins from a government who then went on to cancel christmas gatherings?
you can cheerlead for them all you like
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I’m not cheerleading for the government. I am challenging you on your unsubstantiated claim that we wouldn’t be in this mess if we had acted faster.
Ah SAGE, yes the brilliant SAGE...Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
Yeah forgive me for not wanting to follow their advice.
Peru vs Chile
California vs Florida
Colombia vs Mexico
North Jutland vs North Jutland
We have the third worst performance with influenza in Europe, another virus.
We had months and months last year May-September with no lockdown and the numbers were minimal. Everywhere in Europe got a second wave in the winter like we did. Did they all not act fast enough?
Like I said, you have your opinion which is fine but it’s not based on facts. You have no evidence to support your initial claim.
posted on 22/3/21
The fact that you accuse others of party politics rather than simply debating the pros & cons of locking down or locking down sooner tells me that you’re the one who is politically driven, not me.
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If only the government had acted faster in the first instance, driven down the number with a zero covid strategy like many other countries did. then we wouldn't have been in this mess.
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How incredibly reductive and quite simply wrong.
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if you like
It's not wrong, the length of the restrictions has been directly due to the level of incompetence from the Tory government. Refusing to listen to the advice and "follow the science" as they claimed they were doing while every step they watered everything down as far as they could.
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You have an opinion but it’s not based on facts. It’s based on supposition upon supposition
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No it's based on SAGE stated that they informed the government to do X, Y, Z and the government then not doing that.
It was all over the news, one example was obviously the circuit break lockdown that was advised by SAGE that never appeared.
Or the advise against opening up for 5 days at Christmas but that would have apparently been inhuman to cancel christmas gatherins from a government who then went on to cancel christmas gatherings?
you can cheerlead for them all you like
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I’m not cheerleading for the government. I am challenging you on your unsubstantiated claim that we wouldn’t be in this mess if we had acted faster.
Ah SAGE, yes the brilliant SAGE...Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
Yeah forgive me for not wanting to follow their advice.
Peru vs Chile
California vs Florida
Colombia vs Mexico
North Jutland vs North Jutland
We have the third worst performance with influenza in Europe, another virus.
We had months and months last year May-September with no lockdown and the numbers were minimal. Everywhere in Europe got a second wave in the winter like we did. Did they all not act fast enough?
Like I said, you have your opinion which is fine but it’s not based on facts. You have no evidence to support your initial claim.
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The model that claimed 500k deaths was one that was linked to us doing nothing to stop it?
now the country obviously never put any restrictions in place and this model was proved wrong..
wait a minute? several lockdowns? local tiered systems?
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Are you feeling ok? It’s a bit late so maybe you’re not understanding something.
The SAGE model predicted that the UK would suffer 500,000 deaths from covid if we didn’t lockdown et cetera.
That same model was applied to Sweden (a country that didn’t lockdown) and that model predicted 96,000 deaths for Sweden and the last time I checked there were on 13,000 but that was a week or two ago now. But nowhere near 96,000.
Understand now?
posted on 23/3/21
Another 10 innocent people shot to death in America, 8 innocents shot a few days ago.
WTF is going on with Americans that massacre is a growing method of attempted suicide?
posted on 23/3/21
Wild asked Davie: “In your own report last year of 268 pages, do you know how many union flags were pictured in any of the graphics?”
Davie replied: “In all the briefings I got for this meeting, that was not one of them.”
“Zero,” Wild said.
A former special adviser who is married to Natalie Evans, the leader of the House of Lords, Wild said: “Maybe in the annual report for this year perhaps you could include some imagery around the union flag. It might be welcomed by some of my constituents.”
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2021/mar/22/bbc-chief-told-to-use-more-than-one-union-jack-in-annual-report
This is who we are now.
posted on 23/3/21
1 year since lockdown began.
Minutes silence for the 126,172 poor souls that have passed at 1200h and a candle on your doorstep at 2000h in remembrance.
posted on 23/3/21
Neil Ferguson.
Put his model from last year which predicted us to get 500k deaths without lockdown into Sweden which didn’t lockdown and it predicted 96,000 deaths - how many deaths are they on again?
How about those latest prediction of another 100,000-130,000 deaths?
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Just out of interest, the use of this model to Sweden, was it supported by SAGE? Working with these kinds of models (well specifically mortality projection models but using similar sorts of maths) you can’t just take one model built to attempt to replicate behaviour in one country and apply it to another, there are a large number of in built assumptions and EJs which mean the model is effectively bespoke, built for its specific use. I would be surprised if the developers of the model were supporting the use of it in modelling cases or mortality estimates in other countries.
And as has been mentioned above the 500k deaths was on the basis of no actions being taken, I believe this was discussed and concluded upon around 10 months ago on this thread. Similarly I believe (happy to be corrected of course) that the 100-130k was both without the introduction of the vaccine and without allowing for the current lockdown.
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