'What Keir has done...is taken all the left out of the Labour party, and he's come out with a set of values and principles in complete alignment with my views as a commercial capitalist.'

https://x.com/jrc1921/status/1803184894161396047?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Imagine being more right wing than New Labour with these type of cretins you’re attracting

As my friend Insert would’ve said, from one neo-liberal trap into another.

hottessed June hear since records begin n we r enterin a heatwave 4 ressed of weak

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 6 minutes ago
Wow, Noam Chomsky has just died. RIP
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Seen reports that his wife says he ain't dead but very ill.

NEW: A record number of 629,875 people registered to vote yesterday - the highest amount in a single day ever

https://x.com/politlcsuk/status/1803204471213773271?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

and the majority all below 50 years old, Tories are absolutely done for

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
'What Keir has done...is taken all the left out of the Labour party, and he's come out with a set of values and principles in complete alignment with my views as a commercial capitalist.'

https://x.com/jrc1921/status/1803184894161396047?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Imagine being more right wing than New Labour with these type of cretins you’re attracting
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I've seen some swivel eyed takes on history but 'more RW than New Labour' is funny.

So that Farage post yesterday about the vetting of candidates, turns out Reform didn't think to actually read what they were buying. The company doesn't do vetting, it merely gives you a license and the tools to do your own

https://x.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1803088353148981720?t=2J9GfGNh-GS664jjTQNHfA&s=19

He'd have known this at the time, I think he's doing this on purpose to allude to deep state conspiracy nonsense

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
So that Farage post yesterday about the vetting of candidates, turns out Reform didn't think to actually read what they were buying. The company doesn't do vetting, it merely gives you a license and the tools to do your own

https://x.com/Frances_Coppola/status/1803088353148981720?t=2J9GfGNh-GS664jjTQNHfA&s=19
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This is beautiful. What a totally incompetent beIlend.

The company have already spoken out. I think they needed certain things from Reform to enable them to provide the licences too and they never received them.

They have had to defend more candidates today.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx77lvd6e73o

They need to make their mind up on whether it is the fault of the vetting company or whether they support their candidates rights to their own views.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jun/18/post-office-horizon-scandal-inquiry-investigator-evidence

There's so much evidence piling up why hasn't anyone been charged?

It speaks to just how hard it’s going to be to reform our deeply broken economic model that our politics is so narrow that Labour, with a 20 point poll lead, feels it won’t have the political space to reform the worst, most regressive tax in Britain.

https://x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1803342846038032765?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

NEW Survation Telephone Tracker for @GMB - Poll 2/4:

CON 20% (-3)
LAB 41% (-)
LD 12% (+2)
REF 15% (+3)
GRE 6% (-)
SNP 2% (-1)
OTH 5% (+1)

F/w 14th - 18th June. Changes vs. 12th June 2024.

comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
'What Keir has done...is taken all the left out of the Labour party, and he's come out with a set of values and principles in complete alignment with my views as a commercial capitalist.'

https://x.com/jrc1921/status/1803184894161396047?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Imagine being more right wing than New Labour with these type of cretins you’re attracting
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I've seen some swivel eyed takes on history but 'more RW than New Labour' is funny.
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Both centre-right economically:

- unashamedly ordoliberal/neoliberal
- believe ‘living within means’ will deliver holy grail growth
- happy to let market economics rule
- proponents of low corporation tax (Reeves and Starmer have ruled out raising the tax, which is currently much lower than it was under New Labour)
- proponents of low regulation FS
- don’t believe public ownership is efficient or desirable
- happy to rely on PPPs and PFIs
- happy to expand involvement of private sector in delivery of public services
- won’t restructure income tax
- not a word on addressing income or wealth inequality

Honestly, can someone give me a few truly material - as in potentially life-changing - differences between the status quo and Labour’s economic and social policies?

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
'What Keir has done...is taken all the left out of the Labour party, and he's come out with a set of values and principles in complete alignment with my views as a commercial capitalist.'

https://x.com/jrc1921/status/1803184894161396047?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Imagine being more right wing than New Labour with these type of cretins you’re attracting
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I've seen some swivel eyed takes on history but 'more RW than New Labour' is funny.
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Both centre-right economically:

- unashamedly ordoliberal/neoliberal
- believe ‘living within means’ will deliver holy grail growth
- happy to let market economics rule
- proponents of low corporation tax (Reeves and Starmer have ruled out raising the tax, which is currently much lower than it was under New Labour)
- proponents of low regulation FS
- don’t believe public ownership is efficient or desirable
- happy to rely on PPPs and PFIs
- happy to expand involvement of private sector in delivery of public services
- won’t restructure income tax
- not a word on addressing income or wealth inequality

Honestly, can someone give me a few truly material - as in potentially life-changing - differences between the status quo and Labour’s economic and social policies?
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No they can’t, all they’ll tell you is they are not Tories. You’ve had a billionaire come on live television and proudly boast that the Labour leader has made the party not ‘left’ anymore. What the fack is the actual point of Labour then?

- don’t believe public ownership is efficient or desirable
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Not sure that's true. Looks like they want public ownership but they can't afford to pay for it right now.

They've already announced rail will be publicly owned but that's cause the contracts run out soon.

BREAKING: Some 882 people were detected crossing the English Channel on Tuesday, the highest number on a single day so far this year, the Home Office said.

Just give up Rishi🤣

Wow, what a meltdown from little Rishi here

https://x.com/sturdyalex/status/1803346411989176676?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 8 hours, 17 minutes ago
'What Keir has done...is taken all the left out of the Labour party, and he's come out with a set of values and principles in complete alignment with my views as a commercial capitalist.'

https://x.com/jrc1921/status/1803184894161396047?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

Imagine being more right wing than New Labour with these type of cretins you’re attracting
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I've seen some swivel eyed takes on history but 'more RW than New Labour' is funny.
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Both centre-right economically:

- unashamedly ordoliberal/neoliberal
- believe ‘living within means’ will deliver holy grail growth
- happy to let market economics rule
- proponents of low corporation tax (Reeves and Starmer have ruled out raising the tax, which is currently much lower than it was under New Labour)
- proponents of low regulation FS
- don’t believe public ownership is efficient or desirable
- happy to rely on PPPs and PFIs
- happy to expand involvement of private sector in delivery of public services
- won’t restructure income tax
- not a word on addressing income or wealth inequality

Honestly, can someone give me a few truly material - as in potentially life-changing - differences between the status quo and Labour’s economic and social policies?
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No they can’t, all they’ll tell you is they are not Tories. You’ve had a billionaire come on live television and proudly boast that the Labour leader has made the party not ‘left’ anymore. What the fack is the actual point of Labour then?
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PSD, Portugal’s main centre right party, and historically the Portuguese equivalent of the Tories, has just taken power here in PT (under the banner of a centre-right coalition AD).

Their policies - which include discounting income tax for young people, maintaining their socialist predecessors’ rent and tenant protections and forcing the owners of empty properties to let them, increasing public control of utilities, and intervening in the market to reduce income inequality - look comfortably to the left of Starmer’s Labour.

The UK’s Overton Window has been so catastrophically facked rightwards that we now have people ‘on the left’ looking at Thatcherite policies, seeing them as social democratic and not even considering alternatives.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 9 minutes ago
- don’t believe public ownership is efficient or desirable
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Not sure that's true. Looks like they want public ownership but they can't afford to pay for it right now.

They've already announced rail will be publicly owned but that's cause the contracts run out soon.
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The biggest source of corporate excess profits (and impact on ticket prices) in the rail system are the private rolling stock companies, which won’t be renationalised.

It’s a step. Whether it will work or not without full renationalisation remains to be seen.

But in itself it doesn’t offset the abandonment of Labour’s plans for a National Investment Bank (which economists, even many on the right of the spectrum, are crying out for); rolling back on pledges for serious state investment in the green energy revolution; failure to pledge to renationalise water; or what Streeting has threatened for the NHS, which I cannot believe people are not up in arms about.

They've also announced a publicly owned green energy company. Not really something a party who don't believe public ownership would do.

I actually agree with Tory Wes about bringing a bit more privatisation to bring down waiting lists for the NHS, I’ve been a frequent user of hospitals in the last 2 years because my daughter and wife have the immune system of a 120 year old tortoise.

The NHS is a facking shambles and something has to change, if that means bringing privatisation in to help folk out then do it. It can’t go running the same way it has been for the last 15 years. It’s dead.

comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 2 minutes ago
I actually agree with Tory Wes about bringing a bit more privatisation to bring down waiting lists for the NHS, I’ve been a frequent user of hospitals in the last 2 years because my daughter and wife have the immune system of a 120 year old tortoise.

The NHS is a facking shambles and something has to change, if that means bringing privatisation in to help folk out then do it. It can’t go running the same way it has been for the last 15 years. It’s dead.
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Pure Thatcherite policy. You realise that, right?

I mean, that’s OK, if that’s your opinion. I’d just be a little surprised given all you’ve said about Thatcher and the privatisation of public services previously.

Yeah so long as it doesn't lead to mass privatisation, and I understand the worry it could, then I have no issue with using some private healthcare to bring the waiting lists down.

My dad needed a hernia operation a couple of years ago and ended up going private because the waiting list at the time in the NHS was 12 months.

Mental how anyone is expected to just crack on with everyday life for that long when you need an operation.