^ Something Corbyn wanted to do btw.
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posted 37 seconds ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
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When I was a staff nurse it was £60 a light bulb and £25 for tympanic covers which is just a joke.
I really don’t know why the Government doesn’t just make its own drugs either. You’re the Government, drugs companies make billions, just do it yourself.
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100%.
It is absolutely unexplainable that any nation the size of the UK doesn’t have its own publicly-owned generics manufacturer.
It would save the public purse literally billions each year.
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How else are the Tory cronies gonna siphon a few extra quid for themselves?
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
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I’ve heard worse than that and completely agree. Billions will be wasted every year, billions.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
Anyone find this a bit ironic given their links to Russian oligarchs?
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1803364858022281700?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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posted 43 seconds ago
Anyone find this a bit ironic given their links to Russian oligarchs?
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1803364858022281700?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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We know who they are, we know what they do. Tories are scvm who will say anything to get what they want.
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comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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posted 16 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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Not to me, because then you are literally privatising the NHS. It’s a contractual sticking plaster that will solve nothing in the long term and cost an absolute fortune in the short. I mean, I’ll stress, that they are already doing this in all but name. It’s expensive, inefficient and will be subject to lobbying and as such, corruption.
Just staff the fvcker properly (and I don’t mean with 1 in 5 staff being bang average managers either). Start now, don’t make nurses pay to train, bring back bursaries, properly staff wards. There is no other solution IF you want to keep the NHS.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
Probably the funniest 2 mins of your day lads
https://x.com/lbc/status/1803395071779160511?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
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When I was a staff nurse it was £60 a light bulb and £25 for tympanic covers which is just a joke.
I really don’t know why the Government doesn’t just make its own drugs either. You’re the Government, drugs companies make billions, just do it yourself.
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100%.
It is absolutely unexplainable that any nation the size of the UK doesn’t have its own publicly-owned generics manufacturer.
It would save the public purse literally billions each year.
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The companies and corporates are paying off your politicians and funding your political parties to obtain or maintain that status quo so good luck with that. The focus has been taken away from the common folk and given to rich individuals and corporates based on the deception that the wealth will trickle down.
It won't because if I have a billion I'll buy an island in the Mediterranean and leave it to my children when I die. Also move to Monaco and save billions in taxes, while receiving billions of grants, tax breaks, concessions from the government which has no money for welfare or handling asylum seekers.
Also, we can solve all the above if we can just stop the boats.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
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Whatever is wasted on the NHS is actually trivial in comparison to how much we throw away because of bad policy and decision making by politicians and even voters. The focus should be elsewhere. NHS is just a distraction.
Focus can be on both surely?
Exclusive:
Nigel Farage is on course to win the Clacton by-election with the biggest swing in modern electoral history, a new poll has suggested
A Survation poll commissioned by Arron Banks, a former Ukip donor, suggested Farage will win 42% of the vote in Clacton with the Tories on 27% and Labour on 24%
Survation said the scale of the projected swing from the Tories to Reform would be 'extremely rare' and 'unprecedented in modern electoral history'
Farage: 'This poll shows Reform will win seats at the election. I think many people are going to be surprised on July 4th. If you vote Reform, you get Reform'
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Focus can be on both surely?
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Technically yes, but I'm sure you know what I meant.
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
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I meant middle management types hence unproductive comment. It’s an extremely large company so there will also have to be a lot of middle management but it’s like the police, bloated in the wrong areas doing the wrong things. Plus, which everyone conveniently forgets to mention, the huge influx of people we have seen in the last 20 years.
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posted 15 minutes ago
Exclusive:
Nigel Farage is on course to win the Clacton by-election with the biggest swing in modern electoral history, a new poll has suggested
A Survation poll commissioned by Arron Banks, a former Ukip donor, suggested Farage will win 42% of the vote in Clacton with the Tories on 27% and Labour on 24%
Survation said the scale of the projected swing from the Tories to Reform would be 'extremely rare' and 'unprecedented in modern electoral history'
Farage: 'This poll shows Reform will win seats at the election. I think many people are going to be surprised on July 4th. If you vote Reform, you get Reform'
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I think you a bit of a Nigel fan pal
EXCL: Nigel Farage tells me Boris Johnson's allies offered him ten peerages and a knighthood to stand his Brexit Party MPs down in 2019.
He says it was "bribery - corruption"
Er, he’s waited 5 years to reveal this? Surely a police investigation into him and Boris should open now?
It’s all lies the come out of his mouth. Wouldn’t believe it till it’s looked into
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
EXCL: Nigel Farage tells me Boris Johnson's allies offered him ten peerages and a knighthood to stand his Brexit Party MPs down in 2019.
He says it was "bribery - corruption"
Er, he’s waited 5 years to reveal this? Surely a police investigation into him and Boris should open now?
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Lies.
He stood them down anyway and got nothing so he's talking BS
Two MRP’s have just dropped. One has Labour on a 382 majority and the other with 200 seats. Who to believe?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/19/rishi-sunak-to-lose-seat-tory-wipeout-major-poll-predicts/
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/mrp-poll-labour-general-election-landslide-win-j9s72vz7b
Just stop oil cover Stonehenge orange
Yeh covering some rocks orange will really make a difference both mongs arrested and Starmer condemns and says they’re idiots, big up
Tbf it’s even got socially challenged right wing morons talking about it whilst causing absolutely zero damage which will wash away in the rain. A day before solstice too. Good work.
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^ Something Corbyn wanted to do btw.
posted on 19/6/24
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
When I was a staff nurse it was £60 a light bulb and £25 for tympanic covers which is just a joke.
I really don’t know why the Government doesn’t just make its own drugs either. You’re the Government, drugs companies make billions, just do it yourself.
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100%.
It is absolutely unexplainable that any nation the size of the UK doesn’t have its own publicly-owned generics manufacturer.
It would save the public purse literally billions each year.
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How else are the Tory cronies gonna siphon a few extra quid for themselves?
posted on 19/6/24
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 13 minutes ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
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I’ve heard worse than that and completely agree. Billions will be wasted every year, billions.
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
posted on 19/6/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
posted on 19/6/24
Anyone find this a bit ironic given their links to Russian oligarchs?
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1803364858022281700?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 43 seconds ago
Anyone find this a bit ironic given their links to Russian oligarchs?
https://x.com/conservatives/status/1803364858022281700?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
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We know who they are, we know what they do. Tories are scvm who will say anything to get what they want.
posted on 19/6/24
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
posted on 19/6/24
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
posted on 19/6/24
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
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comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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Not to me, because then you are literally privatising the NHS. It’s a contractual sticking plaster that will solve nothing in the long term and cost an absolute fortune in the short. I mean, I’ll stress, that they are already doing this in all but name. It’s expensive, inefficient and will be subject to lobbying and as such, corruption.
Just staff the fvcker properly (and I don’t mean with 1 in 5 staff being bang average managers either). Start now, don’t make nurses pay to train, bring back bursaries, properly staff wards. There is no other solution IF you want to keep the NHS.
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
posted on 19/6/24
Probably the funniest 2 mins of your day lads
https://x.com/lbc/status/1803395071779160511?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw
posted on 19/6/24
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 37 seconds ago
Not sure how easy it would be to break off from them, but one major thing would probably be to stop using contractors who deliberately mark up any job they have to do when it comes to building management.
I've heard several stories akin to these guys charging the best part of £200 to replace 1 tube light.
The amount of money wasted on things like that must be absurd.
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When I was a staff nurse it was £60 a light bulb and £25 for tympanic covers which is just a joke.
I really don’t know why the Government doesn’t just make its own drugs either. You’re the Government, drugs companies make billions, just do it yourself.
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100%.
It is absolutely unexplainable that any nation the size of the UK doesn’t have its own publicly-owned generics manufacturer.
It would save the public purse literally billions each year.
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The companies and corporates are paying off your politicians and funding your political parties to obtain or maintain that status quo so good luck with that. The focus has been taken away from the common folk and given to rich individuals and corporates based on the deception that the wealth will trickle down.
It won't because if I have a billion I'll buy an island in the Mediterranean and leave it to my children when I die. Also move to Monaco and save billions in taxes, while receiving billions of grants, tax breaks, concessions from the government which has no money for welfare or handling asylum seekers.
Also, we can solve all the above if we can just stop the boats.
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
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It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
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There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
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There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
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Whatever is wasted on the NHS is actually trivial in comparison to how much we throw away because of bad policy and decision making by politicians and even voters. The focus should be elsewhere. NHS is just a distraction.
posted on 19/6/24
Focus can be on both surely?
posted on 19/6/24
Exclusive:
Nigel Farage is on course to win the Clacton by-election with the biggest swing in modern electoral history, a new poll has suggested
A Survation poll commissioned by Arron Banks, a former Ukip donor, suggested Farage will win 42% of the vote in Clacton with the Tories on 27% and Labour on 24%
Survation said the scale of the projected swing from the Tories to Reform would be 'extremely rare' and 'unprecedented in modern electoral history'
Farage: 'This poll shows Reform will win seats at the election. I think many people are going to be surprised on July 4th. If you vote Reform, you get Reform'
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 7 minutes ago
Focus can be on both surely?
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Technically yes, but I'm sure you know what I meant.
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 1 hour, 37 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - I want to play by my own rules and if I can’t I’ll sue you (U6374)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 13 minutes ago
All those things should happen in conjunction with a quicker fix of using the private sector to bring down the waiting lists
Staffing issues can't just be solved overnight, it takes a long time to train doctors and nurses
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It takes a long time to train them, it takes about a week to recruit them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's no guarantee the trained who left the profession or never took it up would come to nursing after a wage rise or other reforms
The short term fix for recruitment would be looking for staff from abroad which has other implications
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There’s no guarantee of anything ever, I don’t really get that point, but in my experience those that nurse in the NHS do so vocationally. Very few wanted to leave (I didn’t myself) but felt they had to, so start by fixing the work conditions.
We already source numerous staff nurses from abroad and (again in my experience) they are great. The only implication would be turning the noses up of some racists, which I’m all for anyway.
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So again, if the intention is to bring the waiting list down by 75% or more within the 5 year term does utilising the private sector in addition to reform not make sense?
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The problem for me is the cost. When the government goes to the private sector in a desperate position needing help, they get rinsed on price which then leaves less money available for the NHS side which may keep waiting lists just as long.
My impression from having spoken to people in the NHS is that it’s just a hugely bloated organisation with far too many employees who are unproductive but cost a lot of money. That plus the population increasing as it is leads to a cluster fk.
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To me it doesn’t seem bloated when it comes to nurses and doctors, that’s why you’re waiting on average 7/8 hours to get seen to by one.
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I meant middle management types hence unproductive comment. It’s an extremely large company so there will also have to be a lot of middle management but it’s like the police, bloated in the wrong areas doing the wrong things. Plus, which everyone conveniently forgets to mention, the huge influx of people we have seen in the last 20 years.
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Onana what's my name? (U14210)
posted 15 minutes ago
Exclusive:
Nigel Farage is on course to win the Clacton by-election with the biggest swing in modern electoral history, a new poll has suggested
A Survation poll commissioned by Arron Banks, a former Ukip donor, suggested Farage will win 42% of the vote in Clacton with the Tories on 27% and Labour on 24%
Survation said the scale of the projected swing from the Tories to Reform would be 'extremely rare' and 'unprecedented in modern electoral history'
Farage: 'This poll shows Reform will win seats at the election. I think many people are going to be surprised on July 4th. If you vote Reform, you get Reform'
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I think you a bit of a Nigel fan pal
posted on 19/6/24
EXCL: Nigel Farage tells me Boris Johnson's allies offered him ten peerages and a knighthood to stand his Brexit Party MPs down in 2019.
He says it was "bribery - corruption"
Er, he’s waited 5 years to reveal this? Surely a police investigation into him and Boris should open now?
posted on 19/6/24
It’s all lies the come out of his mouth. Wouldn’t believe it till it’s looked into
posted on 19/6/24
comment by Things Can Only Get Better (U11781)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
EXCL: Nigel Farage tells me Boris Johnson's allies offered him ten peerages and a knighthood to stand his Brexit Party MPs down in 2019.
He says it was "bribery - corruption"
Er, he’s waited 5 years to reveal this? Surely a police investigation into him and Boris should open now?
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Lies.
He stood them down anyway and got nothing so he's talking BS
posted on 19/6/24
Two MRP’s have just dropped. One has Labour on a 382 majority and the other with 200 seats. Who to believe?
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2024/06/19/rishi-sunak-to-lose-seat-tory-wipeout-major-poll-predicts/
https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/mrp-poll-labour-general-election-landslide-win-j9s72vz7b
posted on 19/6/24
Just stop oil cover Stonehenge orange
Yeh covering some rocks orange will really make a difference both mongs arrested and Starmer condemns and says they’re idiots, big up
posted on 19/6/24
Tbf it’s even got socially challenged right wing morons talking about it whilst causing absolutely zero damage which will wash away in the rain. A day before solstice too. Good work.
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