comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
If this increase doesn’t affect the “working man” (definitions on a postcard please), why are working public sector employees protected from this?


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Not quite following your logic there, Ginge.

You could protect “working people” in both the public and private sectors from NI increases and also protect public sector *employers* from NI increases.
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Because the GVT want to protect sectors such as the NHS, Education etc which is under threat because they are haemorrhaging valued and needed, time served, qualified staff, who are actually the bedrock of our society. It's called responsible government trying to fix things. You have probably forgotten about that being a Tory.
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You think I’m a Tory?
----------------------------------------------------------------------Well of course you are. Unless yiou shifted to Reform. You have been arguing their corner daily (Mail) since the GE on here. Are you wasting our time on this thread now?

comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 6 seconds ago
Aye rosso is the biggest stealth Tory of all time
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DEEP cover

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
If this increase doesn’t affect the “working man” (definitions on a postcard please), why are working public sector employees protected from this?


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Not quite following your logic there, Ginge.

You could protect “working people” in both the public and private sectors from NI increases and also protect public sector *employers* from NI increases.
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Because the GVT want to protect sectors such as the NHS, Education etc which is under threat because they are haemorrhaging valued and needed, time served, qualified staff, who are actually the bedrock of our society. It's called responsible government trying to fix things. You have probably forgotten about that being a Tory.
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You think I’m a Tory?
----------------------------------------------------------------------Well of course you are. Unless yiou shifted to Reform. You have been arguing their corner daily (Mail) since the GE on here. Are you wasting our time on this thread now?
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Say what now?

The world’s first anarcho-syndicalist Tory

I knew it. All these years Rosso is taunting us with his thatcher T-shirt and major tattoo

Labour Gvts making the rich pay to fix-up the country after their plundering, until 'the pips squeak', has always been fun watching them squirm.

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 36 minutes ago
The world’s first anarcho-syndicalist Tory
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You don’t fool us with your fancy words 😡

It would appear you can’t be a “working man” if you are protected by your employer on NIEC as a public body.

So, essentially it’s only privately or self employed individuals who are being hit.

The ones who create the economy. What logic there eh?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
It would appear you can’t be a “working man” if you are protected by your employer on NIEC as a public body.

So, essentially it’s only privately or self employed individuals who are being hit.

The ones who create the economy. What logic there eh?
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What are you on about lad?

I don’t understand your first sentence at all. Please help. Taxes on business entities are being raised. Not on individuals.

As to “the ones who create the economy”, labour is what creates added value, not capital. Value can be added without capital. Economies can exist without entrepreneurs. They can’t exist without workers.

And don’t self-employed individuals currently pay less NI than employees? Do we even know they’re going to be impacted?

No real point raising NI for the public sector if they're funded with public money anyway.

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unlimited Pote-ntial of the Fernçalvenoo triumvirate (U17054)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
If this increase doesn’t affect the “working man” (definitions on a postcard please), why are working public sector employees protected from this?


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Not quite following your logic there, Ginge.

You could protect “working people” in both the public and private sectors from NI increases and also protect public sector *employers* from NI increases.
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Because the GVT want to protect sectors such as the NHS, Education etc which is under threat because they are haemorrhaging valued and needed, time served, qualified staff, who are actually the bedrock of our society. It's called responsible government trying to fix things. You have probably forgotten about that being a Tory.
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You think I’m a Tory?
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LOL Of couse I dont Rosso... I was talking to Ginger.

Obviously.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would appear you can’t be a “working man” if you are protected by your employer on NIEC as a public body.

So, essentially it’s only privately or self employed individuals who are being hit.

The ones who create the economy. What logic there eh?
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You will be telling us your rich wealth creators are all going to leave the country next (it says so in the Daliy Mail so its just a matter of time). They say this every time Labour get in. Apparently the last one out has to switch out the light.

But actually dont.

Apparently the last one out has to switch out the light.
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Like Phil Collins who's career basically ended when he made that comment.

comment by Boris 'Inky’ Gibson (U5901)
posted 11 seconds ago
Apparently the last one out has to switch out the light.
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Like Phil Collins who's career basically ended when he made that comment.
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It was also The Sun's front page on GE day morning when Kinnock was Labour leader in 1992.. Their next day front page was 'It Was The Sun Wot Won It!

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
It would appear you can’t be a “working man” if you are protected by your employer on NIEC as a public body.

So, essentially it’s only privately or self employed individuals who are being hit.

The ones who create the economy. What logic there eh?
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You will be telling us your rich wealth creators are all going to leave the country next (it says so in the Daliy Mail so its just a matter of time). They say this every time Labour get in. Apparently the last one out has to switch out the light.

But actually dont.
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Aye ok

comment by rosso says the time has come to unlock the unl... (U17054)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 7 minutes ago
It would appear you can’t be a “working man” if you are protected by your employer on NIEC as a public body.

So, essentially it’s only privately or self employed individuals who are being hit.

The ones who create the economy. What logic there eh?
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What are you on about lad?

I don’t understand your first sentence at all. Please help. Taxes on business entities are being raised. Not on individuals.

As to “the ones who create the economy”, labour is what creates added value, not capital. Value can be added without capital. Economies can exist without entrepreneurs. They can’t exist without workers.

And don’t self-employed individuals currently pay less NI than employees? Do we even know they’re going to be impacted?
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That’s right. Labour comes free.

So it's Bezos who owns the Washington Post that stopped them endorsing Kamala

Billionaires are sick in the head

Joe Rogan gives Trump the opportunity to prove his false claim that the 2020 election was stolen, he can’t and instead pivots to Hunter Biden’s laptop. In a classic moment, Trump slips and says “I lost”, and Joe Rogan laughs in his face.

https://x.com/mikesington/status/1850150967720776171?s=46&t=bPTrpdgNggCdz9igvhmVyw

This guy

In one instance, the newspaper cited a request from Putin to Musk not to activate his Starlink satellite internet service over Taiwan “as a favor to Chinese leader Xi Jinping.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/politics/elon-musk-vladimir-putin/index.html

Wow!

Suspect in shootings of Democratic office in Arizona had over 120 guns in his home, officials find, and over 250,000 rounds of ammunition.

The 11-year-old recalled waking up Monday to the sound of gunshots. When she looked outside her bedroom door, she saw her father, Mark Humiston, with blood on his head and her 9-year-old brother with blood in his mouth – both laying on the floor of the hallway, according to court documents.

When her 7-year-old sister walked out of their shared bedroom, the 11-year-old said she heard another gunshot, before seeing her younger sister fall to the floor, the documents say.

She told investigators the shooter then came to her bedroom and fired his weapon once or twice, hitting her hand and neck.

Despite the pain she felt from the bullet’s impact, the 11-year-old told authorities she recognized the weapon. It was her father’s silver Glock handgun, court documents say. And she recognized the shooter, too. It was her 15-year-old brother, she said.

Their mother, Sarah Huminston, and their 13-year-old brother had been shot and killed elsewhere in the house, authorities said.

Mark and Sarah Humiston were home schooling their children, and were very active in the community, neighbors told KING.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/us/fall-city-washington-shooting-murders/index.html?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc

comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
In one instance, the newspaper cited a request from Putin to Musk not to activate his Starlink satellite internet service over Taiwan “as a favor to Chinese leader Xi Jinping.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/politics/elon-musk-vladimir-putin/index.html

Wow!
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Gospel

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 45 minutes ago
comment by Mamba - You hit us, We hit you. (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 42 minutes ago
In one instance, the newspaper cited a request from Putin to Musk not to activate his Starlink satellite internet service over Taiwan “as a favor to Chinese leader Xi Jinping.”

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/10/25/politics/elon-musk-vladimir-putin/index.html

Wow!
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Gospel
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Hallelujah!

Now we know who's running the Republican Party. It's Putin!