is this thread still about Gingers 'Im doing all right jack and fack the rest' on-line character.

Even Culer gave up with that wum eventually.

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
is this thread still about Gingers 'Im doing all right jack and fack the rest' on-line character.

Even Culer gave up with that wum eventually.
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Close.

Just fwck poeple like you who spend their time wishing all sorts of stuff on me and get upset when it doesn't happen..

Getting it now?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
is this thread still about Gingers 'Im doing all right jack and fack the rest' on-line character.

Even Culer gave up with that wum eventually.
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Close.

Just fwck poeple like you who spend their time wishing all sorts of stuff on me and get upset when it doesn't happen..

Getting it now?
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Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.

comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted about an hour ago
‘Starmer says UK 'isn’t working’ as he announces jobs push’

“Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has promised to get more people into work with reforms to overhaul job centres and more mental health funding.
Sir Keir said the government had inherited a country that "isn't working", and the changes would tackle the biggest drivers of unemployment and inactivity...

“The government has said young people must take up offers of a job or training, or lose their benefits, but it has not spelled out how such sanctions will work or when they will come into force…”

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqxwv3n87g4o

Four mentions of young people in the article and policies it covers. Zero mentions of the 50 to 64 year old group, which is overwhelmingly responsible for the increase in worklessness (nearly 70% of the total increase since the pandemic).

What’s being done to get those people back working?
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My guess for some of it, is that there's something fundamentally wrong about young people not being in work for whatever reason. They are the future of the country and a diminishing portion of the population after all and have far more energetic and unfettered years of work to provide.

Older age groups may have reached a life/work balance reassessment where they are relatively content with where they are in life. But then they have the experience which we should be making better use of.

Ginge.. if you were as fabulously successful and really living the life of riley that you make out you are... you certainly wouldnt camp out on a daft football forum like this one, albeit it 'the discussion thread' and brag about it. Read what people are saying about you.

comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ginge.. if you were as fabulously successful and really living the life of riley that you make out you are... you certainly wouldnt camp out on a daft football forum like this one, albeit it 'the discussion thread' and brag about it. Read what people are saying about you.
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Is that another fact of yours?

And you appear to think why I’d give a flying about what people say about me when it’s based on their own desires or mad interpretations. I personally know quite a few people on this forum so why shouldn’t I interact on my own free will.

When there’s a discussion to be had (like above) I’ll join in. When people just decide to take a shot at me, don’t get all shocked when I do the same back in ways that appear to annoy them the most.

And certainly don’t be trying to tell me where I should and shouldn’t spend my time.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by RB&W - He kicked lumps out of them (U21434)
posted less than a minute ago
is this thread still about Gingers 'Im doing all right jack and fack the rest' on-line character.

Even Culer gave up with that wum eventually.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Close.

Just fwck poeple like you who spend their time wishing all sorts of stuff on me and get upset when it doesn't happen..

Getting it now?
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Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Thought about it, she isn't for changing her mind so adapt or die.*

*deliberately dramatic to match the hyperbole from 'business' that a s.all hit to the majority bottom line is being blown into the apocalypse.
Out of interest, do you believe Furlough should be repayed or have you forgotten the tax payer rescue package that kept the doors open for many?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?

Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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Banks bailed out with £133bn of taxpayers’ money 2008-2009. Still owe £30bn.

Economic black hole £20bn.

Pay back what you owe.

Boris Johnson blames the Church of England for Britain’s obesity crisis, saying failure to provide people with 'spiritual sustenance' they need is leading them to 'gorge themselves'

He says that when he was a child 'we were all out playing in the streets the whole time'.

'You don’t see that with kids nowadays… Now they’re all fatsos, and I’d be shot for saying they’re fatsos, but that’s the truth


Coming from the fattest cuuuunt we’ve had as PM, pot calling the kettle you cuuuunt

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
Trump has announced a 25% tariff will be placed on Canada and Mexico and a 10% tariff on China will begin on day 1 of his Presidency.

But still, he'll reduce prices apparently


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NEW: The UK has retaliatory tariffs planned on iconic US goods, such as Jack Daniel’s, Levi jeans and Harley Davidson bikes, ready in case of a trade war with Trump

Officials have briefed Ministers they can repurpose former EU laws without need for investigation

[@POLITICOEurope]

On 19 November, the Times ran a 'news' piece on the demonstration in Westminster by farmers opposed to changes to inheritance tax. In it they tell the story of John Kemp-Welch. Here's how he's described: "Kemp-Welch, 88, who owns 5,000 acres of "difficult hill farming land" in Perthshire where he and his children farm blackface sheep.

"It's not easy," he said. "Farming in Scotland is very tough but we are determined to go on." Kemp-Welch said an inheritance tax bill would be "very expensive and possibly fatal. It will all go to my children and they will suffer." "It would probably take all my children's lives to pay off the inheritance tax bill," he said.

Turns out however that John Kemp-Welch managed to be chair of the London Stock Exchange from 1994 to 2000. Before that? He spent over three decades at the stockbroker Cazenove. After his period at the stock exchanges. he joined the board of HSBC.
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They really aren't doing themselves any favours constantly choosing wealthy people who clearly bought the farm as tax avoidance as their spokesman are they?

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?
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Of course not

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about an hour ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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We did.

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?
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Of course not
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Cheers.

Are you answerable to shareholders, are you sole owner, or one of several partners?

What kind of workers rights are you worried about?

Where is the balance between creating more lower-quality jobs or fewer higher-quality jobs?

How much (more?) would you be willing to shave off your own income for the benefit of your lower earners?

What's your purpose in life, your actual ambition?

What would you like people to say about you once you're gone?

I know it's a lot to ask, but I'm genuinely interested.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?
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He’s married mate

comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?
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He’s married mate
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I could live with that.

comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by it'sonlyagame (U6426)
posted 1 hour, 9 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 39 minutes ago

Today I'll be sitting down with my senior management team to readjust our plans for next year to accommodate Rachel from the complaints department's latest disastrous briefing to industry.

Then we'll have to tray and work out what we can do to minimise the impact of the up and coming Workers Rights impacts.

None of it bodes well for growth.

Have a think on that.
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Ginger, do you mind if I ask a few honest questions seeking honest answers?
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Of course not
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Cheers.

Are you answerable to shareholders, are you sole owner, or one of several partners?

What kind of workers rights are you worried about?

Where is the balance between creating more lower-quality jobs or fewer higher-quality jobs?

How much (more?) would you be willing to shave off your own income for the benefit of your lower earners?

What's your purpose in life, your actual ambition?

What would you like people to say about you once you're gone?

I know it's a lot to ask, but I'm genuinely interested.
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Blimey. I'll do my best here

1. Answerable to shareholders in one business, sole owner in two others and in partnership on another. Along with a some ND consultancies.

2. Rights from day 1. We already pay above minimum wage and are well ahead of things like bereavement time, care, sickness pay on day 1 and the like.

3. Bit of a mix although I'd like to offer well paid trainee jobs that develop into highly paid opportunities that help us retain key staff

4. I've refused salary increases to ensure some employees have earned more from the pot. When in difficulty during Covid I went without pay for 6 months voluntarily. I'd do what it takes to protect the business and employees until it became an untenable situation or the business is at risk. Only once have I made redundancies in a high loss making business I had been tasked to try and turn round. We sold it two years later for £1.

5. To do the best I can, Be a decent person (I know ), take care of my family and gain as many life experiences as I can.

6. Managed to do the above. Liked by my employees and business partners for what I've tried to do selflessly and for my family to miss me but be content and strong enough to make their own happy paths in life.

Phew. Soul bared there.

comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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Banks bailed out with £133bn of taxpayers’ money 2008-2009. Still owe £30bn.

Economic black hole £20bn.

Pay back what you owe.
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privatise the profits...

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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Banks bailed out with £133bn of taxpayers’ money 2008-2009. Still owe £30bn.

Economic black hole £20bn.

Pay back what you owe.
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privatise the profits...
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Eh?

How do you propose anyone does that?

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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Banks bailed out with £133bn of taxpayers’ money 2008-2009. Still owe £30bn.

Economic black hole £20bn.

Pay back what you owe.
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privatise the profits...
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Eh?

How do you propose anyone does that?
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It's what they did, I know you're not as young as you once were but surely you remember 2008?

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted about a minute ago
comment by RRRU-ben a-moo-REENG (U17054)
posted about an hour ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 39 minutes ago
Business support during lockdown (Inc furlough) £140 billion
Economic black hole £20 billion

Pay back what you owe.
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Banks bailed out with £133bn of taxpayers’ money 2008-2009. Still owe £30bn.

Economic black hole £20bn.

Pay back what you owe.
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privatise the profits...
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Eh?

How do you propose anyone does that?
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It's what they did, I know you're not as young as you once were but surely you remember 2008?
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Cheeky fwcker

Ok. On a personal level I believe we should have let market forces dictate their future but that's by the by now. They've paid back £130bn of the £133bn bail out. There is a payback model in place and it's working.

This "black hole" is a remaining balance that is very secure. That is all there is to it.

They scooped on the sub-prime bubble, lined their and their shareholder pockets and when it popped WE had to save them. Of course they should pay back their rescue package and so should those companies that market forces would have closed down during lockdown and who are now thriving again.

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted less than a minute ago
They scooped on the sub-prime bubble, lined their and their shareholder pockets and when it popped WE had to save them. Of course they should pay back their rescue package and so should those companies that market forces would have closed down during lockdown and who are now thriving again.
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I think I just said that. They are paying it back. Not sure what more you'd like them to do.

Would you have preferred that all those companies who survived Covid because of furlough should have just gone to the wall due to cashflow and/or a temporary halt in their business?

Can you imagine the increase in devastation, the mass redundancies and welfare benefits increases?