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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
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It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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So sad. May he RIP.
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 2 minutes ago
You should be able to record whatever you want but what you.do with the content should and already is controlled
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Is it controlled? You mean the Ts and Cs of each platform?
comment by CrouchEndGooner (U13531)
posted 1 minute ago
You should be able to record whatever you want but what you.do with the content should and already is controlled
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Yes, i did tell the judge this after being removed from the beach, and ladies hockey team showers.
It was for personal use only too.
Honesy.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Where was this mate?
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
*immigration, not immune gration
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That could be a term for Irish folk crossing the border, seeking vaccine in Uk= Immune-gration.
Here to help, lad.
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Not bad at all.
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comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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The problem he faces is that the party is hugely split as to whom to appeal to? Centre, centre left vs centre left, left
If it were my party and I had something to gain from their success I would strongly advise them to appeal to the centre as much as possible. Give the public a genuine opposition to someone like Boris and surely they would be victorious. Imagine Tony Blair vs Boris for example. They should back Starmer and let him do the centrist thing and he’d have a good chance.
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posted 44 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Aaah the kingdom of Fife
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posted 6 seconds ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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Aye but does he have a picture of the queen on the wall? The stakes have already been raised!
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posted 4 seconds ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
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That.. and shooting guys in the back running away is not good, but cameras have opened our eyes.
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Aaah the kingdom of Fife
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Neale Hanvey, as mediocre a politician as you could find. Could tie him in verbal knots in my sleep. He’ll not do the right thing and trigger a bi-election though.
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
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True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
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It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
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Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
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I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
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That.. and shooting guys in the back running away is not good, but cameras have opened our eyes.
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Imagine shooting a man running way from you in the back and then facing no repercussions or consequences for that.
In this day and age.
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
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It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
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I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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Aye but does he have a picture of the queen on the wall? The stakes have already been raised!
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Haha, I noticed that from recent Tory interviews
I notice Biden pictured with the Pope in BBC news item today, so Arlene has to get her Royal broach polished up and King Billy on the wall for the next presser.
Alby Party could have wee guy setting fire to a union flag in the background, with topless Salmond shouting Freedom.
The thoughts that go through some folks heads 🥺
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
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True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
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It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
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Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
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I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Saw Hanvey join MacCaskill there.
Why are people still hating Jewish people?
This is Passover day.
Once a person is in restraints (handcuffed) whether it is police training/practice or not. There should be no need to still be on top of them neck or otherwise imo.
Drugs don’t help and ultimately cause a lot of risk to peoples’ health let alone circumstances such as these that will only get the heart racing further.
But if we take Floyd for example, once he’s cuffed that’s pretty much that. He’s surrounded by armed cops, what’s he going to do? Get up and Rambo style take their weapons off them and kill them? Even I don’t believe that and I acknowledge the incredible risk officers take in their duty (especially in the US).
We’ve seen what little effect tasers can have and even shooting can have little effect on suspects but once cuffed, it’s game over for the suspect 99.99999% of the time and there’s no need for kneeling type practice.
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
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It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
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I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
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True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
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It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
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Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
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I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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So sad. May he RIP.
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You should be able to record whatever you want but what you.do with the content should and already is controlled
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Is it controlled? You mean the Ts and Cs of each platform?
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posted 1 minute ago
You should be able to record whatever you want but what you.do with the content should and already is controlled
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Yes, i did tell the judge this after being removed from the beach, and ladies hockey team showers.
It was for personal use only too.
Honesy.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
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It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Where was this mate?
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posted 1 minute ago
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*immigration, not immune gration
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That could be a term for Irish folk crossing the border, seeking vaccine in Uk= Immune-gration.
Here to help, lad.
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Not bad at all.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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The problem he faces is that the party is hugely split as to whom to appeal to? Centre, centre left vs centre left, left
If it were my party and I had something to gain from their success I would strongly advise them to appeal to the centre as much as possible. Give the public a genuine opposition to someone like Boris and surely they would be victorious. Imagine Tony Blair vs Boris for example. They should back Starmer and let him do the centrist thing and he’d have a good chance.
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 1 minute ago
Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
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True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
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It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
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Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
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I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
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Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
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True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
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It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
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Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
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I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
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So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Aaah the kingdom of Fife
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
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It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
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I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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Aye but does he have a picture of the queen on the wall? The stakes have already been raised!
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comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
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Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
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Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
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Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
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That.. and shooting guys in the back running away is not good, but cameras have opened our eyes.
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Aaah the kingdom of Fife
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Neale Hanvey, as mediocre a politician as you could find. Could tie him in verbal knots in my sleep. He’ll not do the right thing and trigger a bi-election though.
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C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Awful, if a man or woman says I can't breathe, believe them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hell no.
I've put the guy in handcuffs, he's on his belly on the floor with two other cops holding him down.
When he says I can't breathe it obviously a ploy so he can try to escape.
I'm not falling for that and my knee stays where it is, on his neck.
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That.. and shooting guys in the back running away is not good, but cameras have opened our eyes.
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Imagine shooting a man running way from you in the back and then facing no repercussions or consequences for that.
In this day and age.
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Or put a disclaimer on it stating filming began after the situation had already escalated.
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A disclaimer wouldn’t suffice imo
A social media ban on uploading these videos or similar restrictions might work but we have to be careful not to infringe on other rights.
As always, it is extremely complicated and we shouldn’t criticise too much sitting in our arm chairs.
Whether it’s covid, taxes, welfare, policing - these are not easy, simple decisions.
Just imagine having to be the guy deciding on locking down the nation. Removing a crazy amount of our liberty, knowingly crippling the economy, saving lives vs delaying and costing lives. It’s all too easy for us to sit here and say one thing or the other but the reality is that we will not be privy to the amount of expert & varied information than they are and criticism with the benefit of hindsight only has so many benefits.
It’s also why I opposed Brexit as I just felt that the ripple of consequences was just far too complex and unknown that it was just way too uncertain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It is extremely complex and no doubt mistakes will be made along the way, however, I think most of us agree that the direction social media is going down, isn't great.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do agree on social media, it’s a mess.
I note BMCL’s point about populism I don’t think that’s exclusive to the current Conservative Party it’s just a stark change from the Thatcher days of the perceived ‘zero fks given’ approach which highlights this. That and then being in power for the last decade. I think it’s a trend in modern politics and social media is playing a huge part in that.
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Oh definitely not just a Conservative party thing, I suspect in the run up to the next GE we’ll see more of it from Starmer, the tories are just better at it 😂😂
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Starmer has already culturally appropriated our Rangers fleg.
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Aye but does he have a picture of the queen on the wall? The stakes have already been raised!
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Haha, I noticed that from recent Tory interviews
I notice Biden pictured with the Pope in BBC news item today, so Arlene has to get her Royal broach polished up and King Billy on the wall for the next presser.
Alby Party could have wee guy setting fire to a union flag in the background, with topless Salmond shouting Freedom.
posted on 28/3/21
The thoughts that go through some folks heads 🥺
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posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by bmcl1987 (U14177)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Thorgen Kloppinson - Son of the Soil (U1282)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Just Shoot (U10408)
posted 4 minutes ago
C'mon man.
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And Biden admin and MSM are not sending or allowing cameras in????
=====
Soon you won't be able to record the police in the UK, leave alone a border immigration camp.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Is this one of the implications of the new legislation going through parliament? I find peoples woeful understanding in general of public photography laws to be such that most would think this was already the case.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
True.
In a job centre, the public were not allowed to photgrapgh us, the staff at work, or in my case eating sausage rolls and drinking coffee.
Taking pics of cops might be dodgy, especially in NI, if you think about it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s interesting it’s one of those things where I come down very much on the side of individual liberties. If someone is out in public filming and they can see you guys working through a window or such, that is absolutely fine with me. Someone with a camera to me is the same as someone’s eyes.
Not far from where I live a black man was killed by police where some of the assault on him was caught on film. It is this film that has helped lead to the public inquiry into his death.
I agree that someone filming police could be carrying out surveillance, but similarly someone just standing without a camera, or driving or walking or riding past, could be doing the same.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
What reason did police give for killing the man?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I personally know ex-Met cops who were openly racist and viewed many young black males as criminals and suspicious.
Living in South London, I found this not to be the case and the local white guys were often more, dodgy or "moody". Lol
If that is the proppa rabbit?
Ffs am a phanny.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So they perceived he was a threat and was required to be restrained as was on drugs and uncooperative. It was the nature of the restraint which lead to the asphyxiation and ultimately his death.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Where was this mate?
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Kirkcaldy, where coincidentally our local MP had resigned from his party (who previously suspended him for anti semitism) to join Alex Salmond’s creepy party 😒. This may also be impacting my mood this morning!
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Saw Hanvey join MacCaskill there.
Why are people still hating Jewish people?
This is Passover day.
posted on 28/3/21
Once a person is in restraints (handcuffed) whether it is police training/practice or not. There should be no need to still be on top of them neck or otherwise imo.
Drugs don’t help and ultimately cause a lot of risk to peoples’ health let alone circumstances such as these that will only get the heart racing further.
But if we take Floyd for example, once he’s cuffed that’s pretty much that. He’s surrounded by armed cops, what’s he going to do? Get up and Rambo style take their weapons off them and kill them? Even I don’t believe that and I acknowledge the incredible risk officers take in their duty (especially in the US).
We’ve seen what little effect tasers can have and even shooting can have little effect on suspects but once cuffed, it’s game over for the suspect 99.99999% of the time and there’s no need for kneeling type practice.
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