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Break over, back to bollox work.
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posted 12 seconds ago
First group activity after lockdown:
https://www.soglos.com/sport-outdoor/27837/Gloucestershire-Cheese-Rolling
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Lethal.
Wiser spending a night in Belfast at a peaceline
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Tbab, some of that catholic stuff is creepy.
Oh, I saw a show about Flannery O'Connor (southern female writer post-war era)
In a film clip from a movie based on one of her books a door to door preacher shows up at a Southern woman's door asking if she wants to join the Church of No Jesus.
She asks the preacher "Is it Protestant or foreign?"
Showed a Klan poster from 20s. They were against:
K rhymes with loons
K rhymes with yikes
K rhymes with atholic
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I don't have a religion, just my weekly KKK meetings with TBAB.
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Excuse me, that was a dress code error at the Lodge.
I also got the nights mixed up.
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Capirote
A capirote[1] is a pointed hat of conical form that is used in Spain by members of a confraternity of penitents. It is part of the uniform of such brotherhoods including the Nazarenos and Fariseos during Easter observances and reenactments in some areas during Holy Week in Spain and its former colonies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote
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Seen them before. Haven't clicked on it, but I know if them.
I'd like to see them at that tomato festival thing in their robes.
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Hahaha la tomatina? Doubt their aim would be any good 😂😂😂
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I was thinking more if them being pelted with them.
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comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I don't have a religion, just my weekly KKK meetings with TBAB.
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Excuse me, that was a dress code error at the Lodge.
I also got the nights mixed up.
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Capirote
A capirote[1] is a pointed hat of conical form that is used in Spain by members of a confraternity of penitents. It is part of the uniform of such brotherhoods including the Nazarenos and Fariseos during Easter observances and reenactments in some areas during Holy Week in Spain and its former colonies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote
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Seen them before. Haven't clicked on it, but I know if them.
I'd like to see them at that tomato festival thing in their robes.
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Hahaha la tomatina? Doubt their aim would be any good 😂😂😂
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I was thinking more if them being pelted with them.
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Poor priests 😢
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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The genie is out of the bottle re: humankinds addiction to these products, it is imo down to the same Corporations that created the issue to provide the alternatives, but no government gas the will to wield the stick and force them to.
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
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You're right, of course the fossil fuel industry didn't know the impact of its products, neither did big tobacco, neither did big pharma. It's nothing to do with systemic capitalist pigdog behaviour.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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Semantics? How about cigarettes?
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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Well if we are going to neuter our economies because of climate change everyone should have to. Such a huge advantaged can be gained by having all your rivals go Green while you go full steam (generated by coal) ahead with polluting the planet.
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For two generations, and to date, climate scientists across disciplines - including cutting edge tech innovators, being the very people we are most heavily relying on to come up with these solutions - have been telling us repeatedly and very clearly that that burden is going to have to fall heaviest on behavioural change and that we cannot rely on technological solutions.
There are a few whackjob futurists about who will always want to paint enticing pictures of future tech bailing us out.
But theirs aren’t the kind of pictures reflected by the science or by the academic scientific community.
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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I saw a book review last week. The book was actually pointing out that a lot of our technology grows from reducing harmful effects of previous technologies.
But eventually this planet will run out of resources.
It's like I can't believe there will be infinite growth in markets and wealth. How does that happen on a planet with limited resources?
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
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You're right, of course the fossil fuel industry didn't know the impact of its products, neither did big tobacco, neither did big pharma. It's nothing to do with systemic capitalist pigdog behaviour.
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I’m getting an electric car so I’m alright yeah?
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 23 seconds ago
I also don't see the argument that smoking is comparable to a thousands of years staple of human consumption like meat. To me it is as dubious as pretending weed consumption is equal to alcohol consumption.
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I don’t know about anyone else who has tried both on here, but I found it a damn sight easier giving up meat than I did smoking
As for the alcohol...
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posted on 7/4/21
Break over, back to bollox work.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 12 seconds ago
First group activity after lockdown:
https://www.soglos.com/sport-outdoor/27837/Gloucestershire-Cheese-Rolling
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Lethal.
Wiser spending a night in Belfast at a peaceline
posted on 7/4/21
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
posted on 7/4/21
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posted on 7/4/21
Tbab, some of that catholic stuff is creepy.
Oh, I saw a show about Flannery O'Connor (southern female writer post-war era)
In a film clip from a movie based on one of her books a door to door preacher shows up at a Southern woman's door asking if she wants to join the Church of No Jesus.
She asks the preacher "Is it Protestant or foreign?"
Showed a Klan poster from 20s. They were against:
K rhymes with loons
K rhymes with yikes
K rhymes with atholic
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I don't have a religion, just my weekly KKK meetings with TBAB.
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Excuse me, that was a dress code error at the Lodge.
I also got the nights mixed up.
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Capirote
A capirote[1] is a pointed hat of conical form that is used in Spain by members of a confraternity of penitents. It is part of the uniform of such brotherhoods including the Nazarenos and Fariseos during Easter observances and reenactments in some areas during Holy Week in Spain and its former colonies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote
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Seen them before. Haven't clicked on it, but I know if them.
I'd like to see them at that tomato festival thing in their robes.
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Hahaha la tomatina? Doubt their aim would be any good 😂😂😂
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I was thinking more if them being pelted with them.
posted on 7/4/21
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posted on 7/4/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by son of quebec (U8127)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 hours, 47 minutes ago
I don't have a religion, just my weekly KKK meetings with TBAB.
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Excuse me, that was a dress code error at the Lodge.
I also got the nights mixed up.
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Capirote
A capirote[1] is a pointed hat of conical form that is used in Spain by members of a confraternity of penitents. It is part of the uniform of such brotherhoods including the Nazarenos and Fariseos during Easter observances and reenactments in some areas during Holy Week in Spain and its former colonies.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capirote
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Seen them before. Haven't clicked on it, but I know if them.
I'd like to see them at that tomato festival thing in their robes.
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Hahaha la tomatina? Doubt their aim would be any good 😂😂😂
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I was thinking more if them being pelted with them.
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Poor priests 😢
posted on 7/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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The genie is out of the bottle re: humankinds addiction to these products, it is imo down to the same Corporations that created the issue to provide the alternatives, but no government gas the will to wield the stick and force them to.
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posted on 7/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You're right, of course the fossil fuel industry didn't know the impact of its products, neither did big tobacco, neither did big pharma. It's nothing to do with systemic capitalist pigdog behaviour.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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posted on 7/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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Semantics? How about cigarettes?
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posted on 7/4/21
comment by ttliv87 (U11882)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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Well if we are going to neuter our economies because of climate change everyone should have to. Such a huge advantaged can be gained by having all your rivals go Green while you go full steam (generated by coal) ahead with polluting the planet.
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For two generations, and to date, climate scientists across disciplines - including cutting edge tech innovators, being the very people we are most heavily relying on to come up with these solutions - have been telling us repeatedly and very clearly that that burden is going to have to fall heaviest on behavioural change and that we cannot rely on technological solutions.
There are a few whackjob futurists about who will always want to paint enticing pictures of future tech bailing us out.
But theirs aren’t the kind of pictures reflected by the science or by the academic scientific community.
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by rosso - he hands you a nickel, and he hands you a dime, and he asks you with a grin if you're havin' a good time (U17054)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 3 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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Remove the demand and the plastic doesn’t get made, the planes don’t fly, and the cows aren’t reared.
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Demand can’t be removed, only evolved. Innovation is a far more plausible pathway than returning to the Bronze Age.
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They don’t like the technology argument mate. I agree with you entirely when it comes to this issue. Technology will be the saviour and we can’t ask China & India to stop developing because of the planet.
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I saw a book review last week. The book was actually pointing out that a lot of our technology grows from reducing harmful effects of previous technologies.
But eventually this planet will run out of resources.
It's like I can't believe there will be infinite growth in markets and wealth. How does that happen on a planet with limited resources?
posted on 7/4/21
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted about a minute ago
comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 7 minutes ago
The whole notion of your own personal carbon footprint is fossil fuel propaganda - literally!
The first carbon footprint calculator was developed and popularised by BP in a $250 million campaign. Why? To individualise the problem, and let big polluters off the hook.
https://mobile.twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/1379700365784924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
Individual responsibility is all good, cutting down personal air travel etc, but let's not forget those that provide the products that created the problem in the first place. They need to be held accountable.
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I’m not surprised someone like her came out with this. It’s always a systemic problem that needs to be changed rather than individual responsibility.
If people stopped getting on planes, there would be less flights and so on...the market will determine it.
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You're right, of course the fossil fuel industry didn't know the impact of its products, neither did big tobacco, neither did big pharma. It's nothing to do with systemic capitalist pigdog behaviour.
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I’m getting an electric car so I’m alright yeah?
posted on 7/4/21
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 23 seconds ago
I also don't see the argument that smoking is comparable to a thousands of years staple of human consumption like meat. To me it is as dubious as pretending weed consumption is equal to alcohol consumption.
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I don’t know about anyone else who has tried both on here, but I found it a damn sight easier giving up meat than I did smoking
As for the alcohol...
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