It wasn’t the EU, it was individual countries

Catyliticl converters must be certain cars and models,get one for a Ford for a couple of hundred quid.

comment by groovyduringthewar (U1054)
posted 8 seconds ago
Catyliticl converters must be certain cars and models,get one for a Ford for a couple of hundred quid.
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They target SUVs and pickups.
Just because the clearance makes it easier. Bigger engines, bigger cat-cons I would think.

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 minutes ago
It wasn’t the EU, it was individual countries
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Although I recall (despite the EMA's findings) a few posters felt it applicable to apportion blame on to the EU anyway.

Just saw a clip of Cocaine Mitch warning corporate America to stay out if politics.
He seemed serious too.

comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 minutes ago
It wasn’t the EU, it was individual countries
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Although I recall (despite the EMA's findings) a few posters felt it applicable to apportion blame on to the EU anyway.
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That’s also why I posted it 😂😂

So we are facked now? Like we haven’t got enough other vaccines and won’t have enough other vaccines even with J&J to vaccinate all adults before July especially if we need to give boosters. We won’t even manage September at current production and delivery rates

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Actually maybe not, How many 18-29 year olds in the U.K.?

We have 8.5m Pfizer so that’s 4.25m people
We have 8m Moderna? So that’s 4m people
J&J we’d have 3 million? So that’s 1.5m people

Plus some have already had AZ

So 10m, that should cover 18-29 init?

However I believe we’re only getting 100k moderna a week aside from initial 2m so that’ll be a slow burn

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comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Constantinople (U11781)
posted 24 minutes ago
Looks like the EU were right to be sceptical about AZ after all
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The benefits of AZ massively outweigh the tiny risk factor for at risk groups and Macron was spouting quackery about them being ineffective. France originally sought to ban them for OVER 65s not young people.

I would much rather be in our position than the EU position here.

Worth noting the UK made the choice to opt for different vaccines for under 30 because the risk of dying of Covid is even Ower than risk of blood clots.

It would still have done the exact same programme for over 50s and rightly so.


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Yeah think wasn’t ever anything to be scared of. It’s just that the chances of young people dying from covid is so incredibly low that it’s not worth taking.

Our strategy with the vaccines from investment to development, to procurement to rollout has been absolutely fantastic.

People will be quick to point out mistakes and inefficiencies but ultimately when it came to THE most important aspect of dealing with Covid-19 (vaccination); our country, our experts, our government and our healthcare workforce have smashed it out of the park.

I’d much rather they did this than ‘get lockdown right’ but have a rollout plan akin to the EU’s plan.

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comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Percy Pig aficionado (U3126)
posted 25 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 11 minutes ago
It wasn’t the EU, it was individual countries
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Although I recall (despite the EMA's findings) a few posters felt it applicable to apportion blame on to the EU anyway.
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I think my issue was that the superstructure was failing cause no one listened to the EMA

Just got out from 1st vaccine.
AZ

Oh well keeps life interesting

comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 18 seconds ago
Agreed SatNav

It was fully right to vaccinate the over 50s with chiefly the AZ jab.
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As was extending the gap between doses. Heavily ridiculed and criticised both home and abroad but turned out to be the correct strategy that others ended up adopting.

I know people that don’t vote Conservatives, really don’t like them to say the least. It’s more boiling white hatred of them but I think if people were fair and honest I think they would acknowledge the mistakes made are far outweighed by what they have got right, most notably furlough and other business support mechanisms and the vaccine actions taken from the outset.

Prior to a global pandemic if I had to choose two things, most vital to be done well it would be protecting the economy as well as it can (personally I would have had less restrictions etc) and getting a ‘cure’.

As per our influenza performance most years, we were always going to be hit hard by such a virus and taking that into account plus that we have no idea how many people have actually died from covid-19, I think by the end of it, we will have come out of this ‘well’.

comment by Boom SakaLaca (U3664)
posted 1 minute ago
Just got out from 1st vaccine.
AZ

Oh well keeps life interesting
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Good luck sir

Should be fine, a good 10 years over the 30 threshold.

comment by Boom SakaLaca (U3664)
posted 2 minutes ago
Should be fine, a good 10 years over the 30 threshold.
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👍🏻

comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 18 seconds ago
Agreed SatNav

It was fully right to vaccinate the over 50s with chiefly the AZ jab.
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As was extending the gap between doses. Heavily ridiculed and criticised both home and abroad but turned out to be the correct strategy that others ended up adopting.

I know people that don’t vote Conservatives, really don’t like them to say the least. It’s more boiling white hatred of them but I think if people were fair and honest I think they would acknowledge the mistakes made are far outweighed by what they have got right, most notably furlough and other business support mechanisms and the vaccine actions taken from the outset.

Prior to a global pandemic if I had to choose two things, most vital to be done well it would be protecting the economy as well as it can (personally I would have had less restrictions etc) and getting a ‘cure’.

As per our influenza performance most years, we were always going to be hit hard by such a virus and taking that into account plus that we have no idea how many people have actually died from covid-19, I think by the end of it, we will have come out of this ‘well’.
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Tony Blair's idea re: time between 1st + 2nd doses.

I completely disagree the conservatives have got more right than wrong and the enquiry, which should be sooner rather than later, will be the end of the swithering, dithering oaf Johnson.

Blair was a public proponent but its not his idea

Fair comment but not something the CONservatives can claim as theirs though.

Seems like it started among the British Society for Immunology

obviously Blair was pushing the views of some scientists there

BMA was opposed

comment by Hector (U3606)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by NPEEE (U22521)
posted 18 seconds ago
Agreed SatNav

It was fully right to vaccinate the over 50s with chiefly the AZ jab.
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As was extending the gap between doses. Heavily ridiculed and criticised both home and abroad but turned out to be the correct strategy that others ended up adopting.

I know people that don’t vote Conservatives, really don’t like them to say the least. It’s more boiling white hatred of them but I think if people were fair and honest I think they would acknowledge the mistakes made are far outweighed by what they have got right, most notably furlough and other business support mechanisms and the vaccine actions taken from the outset.

Prior to a global pandemic if I had to choose two things, most vital to be done well it would be protecting the economy as well as it can (personally I would have had less restrictions etc) and getting a ‘cure’.

As per our influenza performance most years, we were always going to be hit hard by such a virus and taking that into account plus that we have no idea how many people have actually died from covid-19, I think by the end of it, we will have come out of this ‘well’.
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Tony Blair's idea re: time between 1st + 2nd doses.

I completely disagree the conservatives have got more right than wrong and the enquiry, which should be sooner rather than later, will be the end of the swithering, dithering oaf Johnson.
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Was it really Blair’s idea? I missed that entirely.

I might not have phrased myself well. I think if we made a list of things done badly and things done well the former would be a longer list, yes. But I think the overall effect, consequences of each item then I think it ends up being positive.

Each to their own of course but as long as people are mature enough to properly acknowledge that some very important things were done and were done extremely well.