Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
Agenda-ridden. Happy to help without any agenda.
comment by Terry Hoskins (U21403)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lizardburns (U17424)
posted 12 minutes ago
Mick did a brilliant job of squad building at Wolves in those first couple of years. In large part this seems to have been down to the talent of Ian Evans ("Taff"; originally assistant-manager, latterly scout).
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mick-mccarthy-hails-eagle-eye-of-assistant-60663
Regardless, McCarthy's team were excellent at identifying emerging talent and then man-managing individuals once they were at the club. In addition to the stars of the McCarthy teams, other emerging players like Lallana, Clyne, A. Carroll were identified before they came on the radar of the bigger clubs where they've excelled but opted not to join Wolves.
The idea that McCarthy built those squads without much investment is a bit mis-leading though. We took Ebanks-Blake from Plymouth when he was already the hottest goal-scoring talent in the Championship but we got him for a relatively modest fee due to a clause in his contract which set the fee at around £1.5m if I remember correctly. That deal was symptomatic of a pretty savvy approach to transfers by the club at the time. I remember at the time feeling a bit uncomfortable about how we exploited Luton's financial woes to take two of their outstanding players, but Wolves seemed to be investing quite a bit of effort at that time in researching how they could get the best value from the market as it was then.
I also think that quoting figures about Nuno's spending and comparing to the spending a decade ago without putting it in the context of the existing market is a very simple way to address this. I had a quick look but couldn't see figures for spending in transfer markets going back to McCarthy's championship days. I did find figures on revenues though. In 2006/7, total revenues of Champ clubs was £329m; spending on players by the football league 72 was £86m. Championship revenues for 2016/17 are expected to exceed £600m (almost double) and clubs are making record levels of operating losses, whilst "football League clubs’ combined gross transfer expenditure in 2015/16 was almost £190m". In this period we've also seen a real change in foreign ownership and investment into Championship clubs.
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/is/Documents/audit/Football-Money-League/UK_SBG_ARFF2008_Highlights(1).pdf
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/uk/Documents/sports-business-group/deloitte-uk-annual-review-of-football-finance-2017.pdf
Taken together, it's easy to see that the context around the spending is fundamentally different and makes it a challenge to compare.
Mick did a fantastic job and gave me a very happy five years. Nuno is doing the same now. Good times!
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A sensible Mick post.
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For now!
What time is in Trumpton as I know two "fans" who will disagree when they come on here..
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What's to disagree with? Good sensible post.
I too enjoyed the first five years overall even if the fifth year things were getting a little uncomfortable, but the big wins kept spirits up, it was that sixth year where it came tumbling down.
Ohhh, add some pithy comment like may day may day for those living in the UK under the shambolic government if you wish folks
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 34 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
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And as I said earlier, I didn't foam at the mouth, I made a five or six word reply to the initial comment which wasn't even aimed at Bute and was light hearted in it's make up, it was hoskins who got all bent out of shape And took it down the road it went down.
Agenda........ hahahaha.
So someone has a "Agenda" if their view doesn't agree with yours. What a load of codswallop and typical of some on here.
Quiet day in the transfer rumour department then
I see Colin is at it again....
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Agenda........ hahahaha.
So someone has a "Agenda" if their view doesn't agree with yours. What a load of codswallop and typical of some on here.
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That's the spirit Perton.
https://www.clubcall.com/championship/wolves-and-villa-in-for-czech-striker-1-1868938.amp
A rumour.
Czech striker Michal Krmencik.
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 17 minutes ago
https://www.clubcall.com/championship/wolves-and-villa-in-for-czech-striker-1-1868938.amp
A rumour.
Czech striker Michal Krmencik.
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Did you read this bit?
Reports in Croatia claim Dinamo Zagreb are also keen on the 24-year-old forward, but that Plzen are only interested in selling him in January if they can get him back on loan until the end of the current campaign.
We will be buying a striker in January to be backup/competition for Bonatini for the remainder of the season. So we will not be buying this fella.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 hours, 21 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
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This post gave me great joy. Thank you. Almost crying with laughter, and that's why I love this forum above Mol Minx.
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 hours, 21 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
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This post gave me great joy. Thank you. Almost crying with laughter, and that's why I love this forum above Mol Minx.
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I really hope all you snowflakes turn up to the match thread
Ayeh should be ready next month to start his wolves career
Lmfao match thread..... get off your ar5es and go to the game.
Another rumour.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/manager-says-brighton-wolves-target-preparing-move/
According to the ever reliable Birminham Mail, Liverpool are preparing to move for Saiss in January.
I'm not a gambling man but if I were I would say they have 2 chances of getting him, slim and none.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wolves-transfers-liverpool-considering-january-13929514
No surprise to see him involved in the rumours as he has been the pick of our midfielders for me, and yes better than Neves overall so far this season.
Not quite sure he is at Liverpool's level though whereas I think Neves certainly could be.
12m are they taking the pi55.. .
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/11/23/should-wolves-drop-misfiring-nicolai-jorgensen-for-red-hot-barga/
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
Ayeh should be ready next month to start his wolves career
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..looks like twitter let down again
Admins can we bury this article, it's not even December yet
comment by Sir Halfy ...40%Chinese40%Portuguese20%NPD (U11570)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
Admins can we bury this article, it's not even December yet
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And it's about 24 hours too late
Plenty of rumours to come, but I first have to post a Christmas card and purchase some cut price chicken breasts from dodgy Alf the mobile butcher.
Grabban the latest rumour I see.
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posted on 17/11/17
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
posted on 17/11/17
Agenda-ridden. Happy to help without any agenda.
posted on 17/11/17
comment by Terry Hoskins (U21403)
posted 2 hours, 15 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by lizardburns (U17424)
posted 12 minutes ago
Mick did a brilliant job of squad building at Wolves in those first couple of years. In large part this seems to have been down to the talent of Ian Evans ("Taff"; originally assistant-manager, latterly scout).
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/mick-mccarthy-hails-eagle-eye-of-assistant-60663
Regardless, McCarthy's team were excellent at identifying emerging talent and then man-managing individuals once they were at the club. In addition to the stars of the McCarthy teams, other emerging players like Lallana, Clyne, A. Carroll were identified before they came on the radar of the bigger clubs where they've excelled but opted not to join Wolves.
The idea that McCarthy built those squads without much investment is a bit mis-leading though. We took Ebanks-Blake from Plymouth when he was already the hottest goal-scoring talent in the Championship but we got him for a relatively modest fee due to a clause in his contract which set the fee at around £1.5m if I remember correctly. That deal was symptomatic of a pretty savvy approach to transfers by the club at the time. I remember at the time feeling a bit uncomfortable about how we exploited Luton's financial woes to take two of their outstanding players, but Wolves seemed to be investing quite a bit of effort at that time in researching how they could get the best value from the market as it was then.
I also think that quoting figures about Nuno's spending and comparing to the spending a decade ago without putting it in the context of the existing market is a very simple way to address this. I had a quick look but couldn't see figures for spending in transfer markets going back to McCarthy's championship days. I did find figures on revenues though. In 2006/7, total revenues of Champ clubs was £329m; spending on players by the football league 72 was £86m. Championship revenues for 2016/17 are expected to exceed £600m (almost double) and clubs are making record levels of operating losses, whilst "football League clubs’ combined gross transfer expenditure in 2015/16 was almost £190m". In this period we've also seen a real change in foreign ownership and investment into Championship clubs.
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/is/Documents/audit/Football-Money-League/UK_SBG_ARFF2008_Highlights(1).pdf
https://www2.deloitte.com/content/dam/Deloitte/uk/Documents/sports-business-group/deloitte-uk-annual-review-of-football-finance-2017.pdf
Taken together, it's easy to see that the context around the spending is fundamentally different and makes it a challenge to compare.
Mick did a fantastic job and gave me a very happy five years. Nuno is doing the same now. Good times!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A sensible Mick post.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
For now!
What time is in Trumpton as I know two "fans" who will disagree when they come on here..
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What's to disagree with? Good sensible post.
I too enjoyed the first five years overall even if the fifth year things were getting a little uncomfortable, but the big wins kept spirits up, it was that sixth year where it came tumbling down.
Ohhh, add some pithy comment like may day may day for those living in the UK under the shambolic government if you wish folks
posted on 17/11/17
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 34 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
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And as I said earlier, I didn't foam at the mouth, I made a five or six word reply to the initial comment which wasn't even aimed at Bute and was light hearted in it's make up, it was hoskins who got all bent out of shape And took it down the road it went down.
posted on 17/11/17
Agenda........ hahahaha.
So someone has a "Agenda" if their view doesn't agree with yours. What a load of codswallop and typical of some on here.
posted on 17/11/17
Quiet day in the transfer rumour department then
posted on 17/11/17
I see Colin is at it again....
posted on 17/11/17
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
Agenda........ hahahaha.
So someone has a "Agenda" if their view doesn't agree with yours. What a load of codswallop and typical of some on here.
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That's the spirit Perton.
posted on 17/11/17
https://www.clubcall.com/championship/wolves-and-villa-in-for-czech-striker-1-1868938.amp
A rumour.
Czech striker Michal Krmencik.
posted on 17/11/17
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 17 minutes ago
https://www.clubcall.com/championship/wolves-and-villa-in-for-czech-striker-1-1868938.amp
A rumour.
Czech striker Michal Krmencik.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Did you read this bit?
Reports in Croatia claim Dinamo Zagreb are also keen on the 24-year-old forward, but that Plzen are only interested in selling him in January if they can get him back on loan until the end of the current campaign.
We will be buying a striker in January to be backup/competition for Bonatini for the remainder of the season. So we will not be buying this fella.
posted on 17/11/17
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 hours, 21 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This post gave me great joy. Thank you. Almost crying with laughter, and that's why I love this forum above Mol Minx.
posted on 17/11/17
comment by Isle of Bute (U16473)
posted 59 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 8 hours, 21 minutes ago
Just thought I would give credit to Lizardburns for this post before the thread descends into the usual bickering and it gets lost. Well thought out, researched and some use of critical thinking. Rare for this subject.
Better than the usual of Bute making a one line remark which gets Cinci and Sunny foaming at the mouth. Them then attacking anyone who praises Mick in any way. Perton sticking his head above the parapet like a town crier screaming 'Muppet! Muppet!' whilst being careful to make sure none of his posts go over his 15 word nosebleed limit. People then using it as an excuse to snipe at the USA, because whilst their argument on this subject is petty and agenda ridden; they decide to stoop to that level as well. Everyone then accusing each other of having an agenda, but then denying that they have an agenda themselves.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This post gave me great joy. Thank you. Almost crying with laughter, and that's why I love this forum above Mol Minx.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I really hope all you snowflakes turn up to the match thread
posted on 18/11/17
Ayeh should be ready next month to start his wolves career
posted on 18/11/17
Lmfao match thread..... get off your ar5es and go to the game.
posted on 19/11/17
Another rumour.
http://sportwitness.co.uk/manager-says-brighton-wolves-target-preparing-move/
posted on 20/11/17
According to the ever reliable Birminham Mail, Liverpool are preparing to move for Saiss in January.
I'm not a gambling man but if I were I would say they have 2 chances of getting him, slim and none.
http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/wolves-transfers-liverpool-considering-january-13929514
posted on 20/11/17
No surprise to see him involved in the rumours as he has been the pick of our midfielders for me, and yes better than Neves overall so far this season.
Not quite sure he is at Liverpool's level though whereas I think Neves certainly could be.
posted on 21/11/17
12m are they taking the pi55.. .
posted on 24/11/17
https://amp.hitc.com/en-gb/2017/11/23/should-wolves-drop-misfiring-nicolai-jorgensen-for-red-hot-barga/
posted on 30/11/17
comment by pertonwolf (U17284)
posted 1 week, 5 days ago
Ayeh should be ready next month to start his wolves career
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..looks like twitter let down again
posted on 30/11/17
Admins can we bury this article, it's not even December yet
posted on 30/11/17
comment by Sir Halfy ...40%Chinese40%Portuguese20%NPD (U11570)
posted 3 hours, 16 minutes ago
Admins can we bury this article, it's not even December yet
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And it's about 24 hours too late
posted on 30/11/17
Excellent - cheers Admin
posted on 30/11/17
Plenty of rumours to come, but I first have to post a Christmas card and purchase some cut price chicken breasts from dodgy Alf the mobile butcher.
posted on 30/11/17
Grabban the latest rumour I see.
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