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comment by 50...feck Giroud (U1147)
posted 11 minutes ago
It's ridiculous how much conspiracy is against Arsenal from the media on a serious note. FA too are involved.
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Conspiracy?
You think the various media companies came together and thought, let’s use our various outlets to stick it to arsenal?! Genuinely, you think that happened?
What possible reason could there be? Unless you think everyone just woke up one morning and decided to hate arsenal.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 2 minutes ago
By meeting not one but two non league sides in the knock out rounds.
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Beating City and then Chelsea is a tough way to win the cup. Refusing to see that is just churlish.
Arsenal have reactionary fans, and a large fanbase of them as well. Easier to sell papers if you bait them in, and clearly it works!
Pretty sure every question in the OP can be answered with; ‘Who cares? It’s just a meaningless sport’.
Let’s be honest. The ‘power shift’ has been coming for a long time.
Spurs have threatened to overtake us for the last decade and finally it has happened. The problem is for them to really cement their status as the top NL club, they have to beat us when it really matters, or go far in Europe, or win a major trophy. Something Arsenal have done in the last decade.
With Manchester, the story was over before it started because they didn’t threaten to overtake United, they just went and did it themselves. Over the last decade Everton finished ahead of Liverpool a couple of times too. With Spurs they threaten it so often and continuously flop and bottle it that the ‘NL power shift’ thing has become such a big deal.
I do wonder why Spurs’ and Liverpool’s long trophy droughts are continuously ignored though. For Arsenal is was such a big deal but for a massive club like Liverpool and media sweethearts like Spurs, you have to wonder why it’s never mentioned
City are better than United and have been for a while but at the same time there's no danger of United drifting away that far - commercially they're too big and can spend hundreds of millions without bankrupting themselves should it not pay off.
Spurs are better than Arsenal and have been for a couple of seasons. We (Arsenal) IMO commercially are still way ahead of them but they're catching up. Our problem is that we aren't THAT strong financially, once our best players leave on a free next summer we're going to have a very mediocre squad left and it's highly doubtful enough quality will be signed to get us even to the same level. Calling it a power shift is cringy nonsense but in terms of which club is progressing in the right direction it's the ones whose shirt is embroidered with a Chicken on a Basketball.
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 33 minutes ago
Let’s be honest. The ‘power shift’ has been coming for a long time.
Spurs have threatened to overtake us for the last decade and finally it has happened. The problem is for them to really cement their status as the top NL club, they have to beat us when it really matters, or go far in Europe, or win a major trophy. Something Arsenal have done in the last decade.
With Manchester, the story was over before it started because they didn’t threaten to overtake United, they just went and did it themselves. Over the last decade Everton finished ahead of Liverpool a couple of times too. With Spurs they threaten it so often and continuously flop and bottle it that the ‘NL power shift’ thing has become such a big deal.
I do wonder why Spurs’ and Liverpool’s long trophy droughts are continuously ignored though. For Arsenal is was such a big deal but for a massive club like Liverpool and media sweethearts like Spurs, you have to wonder why it’s never mentioned
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Agree with most of this but not the media sweethearts bit. The media do not love us, after any impressive result we achieve, all the media bang on about is which club Kane or Alli will move on to.
I also think that over the last two years we have received criticism for not winning a trophy. It wasn't such an issue before that as we were essentially a team pushing top 4 or 5, not seen as realistic title contenders. As we've finished above the likes of Arsenal, Utd, city in recent years we have received criticism for not winning anything.
The no trophies count was an unnecessary stick to beat Arsenal with, now we've won the FA Cup a couple a couple of times we're not magically a great club again... we just won a cup - progression is far more relevant than winning a domestic cup or a second tier trophy like the Europa.
As to why there was this no trophy obsession the obvious difference between our situation and others would be the manager, the same bloke who'd enjoyed success was still in charge after period of 8 years consistently competing for the league title was now struggling. Other sides have been through multiple managers which somewhat gets them off the hook.
If Sir Alex had gone as long without a trophy there definitely would have been countdowns and a big thing made of it too.
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 6 hours, 7 minutes ago
To summaries this article:
why are the media mean to my club
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Great insight to a fairy well written article.
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 8 hours, 54 minutes ago
Why before the Manchester derby isn't there any talk of a power shift? Why isn't sky tv build up all about a power shift?
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Well City have not won the trophies to suggest there has been a power shift.....................mind you, neither have Spurs
Man Utd actually won a lot more trophies than ManCity since they became rich. The gap has increased trophies wise so no power shift.
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
I will let you decide who is getting the better deal just now.
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If anyone listened to the fat bald dude on Sunday supplement and his bitter aftermath thoughts on the nl London, highlights my point nicely
Would I rather see my team win trophies or not? Spurs are just Arsenal of 07-11. Good team who get the odd big result but are trophy dodgers, only difference is that Arsenal still got tons of stick.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 11 hours, 54 minutes ago
Man Utd actually won a lot more trophies than ManCity since they became rich. The gap has increased trophies wise so no power shift.
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And playing so much better football Hafi. Bear with me on a flight of fantasy here, but if you were to ever actually go to a game would you prefer to watch Jose's team parking the bus or Pep's team destroying teams with fast free flowing football? You have to imagine actually going, you know, paying money and buying a ticket and sitting in the stadium. Which would you opt for?
Mourinho actually is an expansive coach. Just the big games he likes to keep it tight. Maybe if he had better players he would go for it more in the big games.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
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Half-empty!! Arsenal got 58265, 2k off full capacity.
You got 83k in 90k stadium.
You just make it up
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
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Half-empty!! Arsenal got 58265, 2k off full capacity.
You got 83k in 90k stadium.
You just make it up
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Try looking at a cats v@gina
FFS, i realize the now but really comparing Arsenals success over the past years to Spurs current CL run is laughable. This is typical of the Totts and i expect what they have now to be short lived.
Well today was a really poor performance but got the 3 points. Good job Brighton had no creativity otherwise we would have lost
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 5 days, 8 hours ago
In many ways Samdy is right. Ultimately football is about the here and now. What happened even last season quickly becomes irrelevant if your team falls off the pace. What you did ten or twenty years ago bears even less relevance.
Would I rather be watching Spurs beat Real Madrid at Wembley in front of 83,000 in the CL, or going on about having made the CL twenty years on the trot and having won some top flight titles under Herbert Chapman back when the ball was a pigs bladder and a pre match meal was a pint of Guiness and a roast dinner.
Referencing your clubs size or power or whatever tends to be what happens when things are slipping and another club are threatening you. Seen Liverpool fans do it a lot when Utd started threatening their records, seen Arsenal fans do it to Spurs when we became a competetive rival rather than the local midtable club, seen Utd fans do it to City when they won the lottery, seen a number of big clubs do it to Chelsea. When things are going the way you want you just focus on the here and now and say "we're better than you". When things aren't going your way, you resort to "we're bigger than you". Happens all the time.
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25k empty seats at Three Point Lane today. Arsenal would fill Wembley: no excuses
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posted on 19/11/17
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posted on 19/11/17
comment by 50...feck Giroud (U1147)
posted 11 minutes ago
It's ridiculous how much conspiracy is against Arsenal from the media on a serious note. FA too are involved.
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Conspiracy?
You think the various media companies came together and thought, let’s use our various outlets to stick it to arsenal?! Genuinely, you think that happened?
What possible reason could there be? Unless you think everyone just woke up one morning and decided to hate arsenal.
posted on 19/11/17
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 2 minutes ago
By meeting not one but two non league sides in the knock out rounds.
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Beating City and then Chelsea is a tough way to win the cup. Refusing to see that is just churlish.
posted on 19/11/17
Arsenal have reactionary fans, and a large fanbase of them as well. Easier to sell papers if you bait them in, and clearly it works!
posted on 19/11/17
Pretty sure every question in the OP can be answered with; ‘Who cares? It’s just a meaningless sport’.
posted on 19/11/17
Let’s be honest. The ‘power shift’ has been coming for a long time.
Spurs have threatened to overtake us for the last decade and finally it has happened. The problem is for them to really cement their status as the top NL club, they have to beat us when it really matters, or go far in Europe, or win a major trophy. Something Arsenal have done in the last decade.
With Manchester, the story was over before it started because they didn’t threaten to overtake United, they just went and did it themselves. Over the last decade Everton finished ahead of Liverpool a couple of times too. With Spurs they threaten it so often and continuously flop and bottle it that the ‘NL power shift’ thing has become such a big deal.
I do wonder why Spurs’ and Liverpool’s long trophy droughts are continuously ignored though. For Arsenal is was such a big deal but for a massive club like Liverpool and media sweethearts like Spurs, you have to wonder why it’s never mentioned
posted on 19/11/17
City are better than United and have been for a while but at the same time there's no danger of United drifting away that far - commercially they're too big and can spend hundreds of millions without bankrupting themselves should it not pay off.
Spurs are better than Arsenal and have been for a couple of seasons. We (Arsenal) IMO commercially are still way ahead of them but they're catching up. Our problem is that we aren't THAT strong financially, once our best players leave on a free next summer we're going to have a very mediocre squad left and it's highly doubtful enough quality will be signed to get us even to the same level. Calling it a power shift is cringy nonsense but in terms of which club is progressing in the right direction it's the ones whose shirt is embroidered with a Chicken on a Basketball.
posted on 19/11/17
comment by 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆 (U18355)
posted 33 minutes ago
Let’s be honest. The ‘power shift’ has been coming for a long time.
Spurs have threatened to overtake us for the last decade and finally it has happened. The problem is for them to really cement their status as the top NL club, they have to beat us when it really matters, or go far in Europe, or win a major trophy. Something Arsenal have done in the last decade.
With Manchester, the story was over before it started because they didn’t threaten to overtake United, they just went and did it themselves. Over the last decade Everton finished ahead of Liverpool a couple of times too. With Spurs they threaten it so often and continuously flop and bottle it that the ‘NL power shift’ thing has become such a big deal.
I do wonder why Spurs’ and Liverpool’s long trophy droughts are continuously ignored though. For Arsenal is was such a big deal but for a massive club like Liverpool and media sweethearts like Spurs, you have to wonder why it’s never mentioned
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Agree with most of this but not the media sweethearts bit. The media do not love us, after any impressive result we achieve, all the media bang on about is which club Kane or Alli will move on to.
I also think that over the last two years we have received criticism for not winning a trophy. It wasn't such an issue before that as we were essentially a team pushing top 4 or 5, not seen as realistic title contenders. As we've finished above the likes of Arsenal, Utd, city in recent years we have received criticism for not winning anything.
posted on 19/11/17
The no trophies count was an unnecessary stick to beat Arsenal with, now we've won the FA Cup a couple a couple of times we're not magically a great club again... we just won a cup - progression is far more relevant than winning a domestic cup or a second tier trophy like the Europa.
As to why there was this no trophy obsession the obvious difference between our situation and others would be the manager, the same bloke who'd enjoyed success was still in charge after period of 8 years consistently competing for the league title was now struggling. Other sides have been through multiple managers which somewhat gets them off the hook.
If Sir Alex had gone as long without a trophy there definitely would have been countdowns and a big thing made of it too.
posted on 19/11/17
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 6 hours, 7 minutes ago
To summaries this article:
why are the media mean to my club
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Great insight to a fairy well written article.
posted on 19/11/17
comment by Castor Troy (U8700)
posted 8 hours, 54 minutes ago
Why before the Manchester derby isn't there any talk of a power shift? Why isn't sky tv build up all about a power shift?
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Well City have not won the trophies to suggest there has been a power shift.....................mind you, neither have Spurs
posted on 20/11/17
Man Utd actually won a lot more trophies than ManCity since they became rich. The gap has increased trophies wise so no power shift.
posted on 20/11/17
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
I will let you decide who is getting the better deal just now.
posted on 20/11/17
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posted on 20/11/17
If anyone listened to the fat bald dude on Sunday supplement and his bitter aftermath thoughts on the nl London, highlights my point nicely
posted on 20/11/17
Would I rather see my team win trophies or not? Spurs are just Arsenal of 07-11. Good team who get the odd big result but are trophy dodgers, only difference is that Arsenal still got tons of stick.
posted on 20/11/17
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 11 hours, 54 minutes ago
Man Utd actually won a lot more trophies than ManCity since they became rich. The gap has increased trophies wise so no power shift.
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And playing so much better football Hafi. Bear with me on a flight of fantasy here, but if you were to ever actually go to a game would you prefer to watch Jose's team parking the bus or Pep's team destroying teams with fast free flowing football? You have to imagine actually going, you know, paying money and buying a ticket and sitting in the stadium. Which would you opt for?
posted on 21/11/17
Mourinho actually is an expansive coach. Just the big games he likes to keep it tight. Maybe if he had better players he would go for it more in the big games.
posted on 21/11/17
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
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Half-empty!! Arsenal got 58265, 2k off full capacity.
You got 83k in 90k stadium.
You just make it up
posted on 21/11/17
comment by CFC: FFP Champions (U20729)
posted 42 minutes ago
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 1 day, 8 hours ago
Powershift nonsense is something schoolchildren talk about in the playground on a Monday morning, total and utter rubbish. Most supporters are only interested in the here and now. Try telling Spurs supporters that watching their team beat Real Madrid in front of 80,000 plus at Wembley is somehow inferior to watching Arsenal a few days later play out a drab 0-0 a few days later in the Thursday night trophy at an half empty emirates.
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Half-empty!! Arsenal got 58265, 2k off full capacity.
You got 83k in 90k stadium.
You just make it up
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Try looking at a cats v@gina
posted on 25/11/17
FFS, i realize the now but really comparing Arsenals success over the past years to Spurs current CL run is laughable. This is typical of the Totts and i expect what they have now to be short lived.
posted on 25/11/17
Well today was a really poor performance but got the 3 points. Good job Brighton had no creativity otherwise we would have lost
posted on 25/11/17
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 5 days, 8 hours ago
In many ways Samdy is right. Ultimately football is about the here and now. What happened even last season quickly becomes irrelevant if your team falls off the pace. What you did ten or twenty years ago bears even less relevance.
Would I rather be watching Spurs beat Real Madrid at Wembley in front of 83,000 in the CL, or going on about having made the CL twenty years on the trot and having won some top flight titles under Herbert Chapman back when the ball was a pigs bladder and a pre match meal was a pint of Guiness and a roast dinner.
Referencing your clubs size or power or whatever tends to be what happens when things are slipping and another club are threatening you. Seen Liverpool fans do it a lot when Utd started threatening their records, seen Arsenal fans do it to Spurs when we became a competetive rival rather than the local midtable club, seen Utd fans do it to City when they won the lottery, seen a number of big clubs do it to Chelsea. When things are going the way you want you just focus on the here and now and say "we're better than you". When things aren't going your way, you resort to "we're bigger than you". Happens all the time.
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25k empty seats at Three Point Lane today. Arsenal would fill Wembley: no excuses
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