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Van Dijk won't improve Liverpool significan

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posted on 20/7/18

comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 month ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Significantly.

Matip has been injured most of the second half of the season so the alternative would be Klavan. I like Klavan but I severely doubt we'd have made the CL final and secured 4th with him at CB and that's significant which ever way you slice it.

This thread needs closing.
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What is your obsession with Klavan? People who think the thread needs closing are unable to have a proper debate and want to stifle alternate opinions.

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You've already been proven incorrect on the topics matter. As a result flogging a dead horse has been an exercise in futility but maintained for entertainment purposes which has nothing to do with a debate.

You're welcome to make another thread and discuss VVD's performance for the coming season, but this one you have lost.
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Your opinion is just that, an opinion and nothing more, and based on your general input it doesn't carry any real weight. If you feel I have 'lost', by whichever arbitrary and self favouring criteria you apply, feel free to tell yourself that, but ultimately it isn't an accurate statement.
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Instead of giving reply to my valid points and arguments and forgoing the oppertunity to engage your brain to 'grace' your own topic with any sense of sensibility you again resort to the fabled ad hominem, taking away any hope of people taking you serious and digging your own grave with only your trolling to grasp on to.

There was nothing arbitrary about my opinion since it's validated by good reasoning and statistics that evidently disproves your initial topic (since now it only serves to mock your stupidity and trolling).


You need to step up and be a man by admitting that you were wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. This farce is close to depleting it's entertainment value. In other words, you need to wait untill van dijk gives you ammunition to write something that discredits him. You might want to recruit other trolls to accompany you. It must be a lonely journey for you when nobody but yourself believes your BS. How about that for accurate statements?

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 20/7/18

Absolute car crash of an article

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 month ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Significantly.

Matip has been injured most of the second half of the season so the alternative would be Klavan. I like Klavan but I severely doubt we'd have made the CL final and secured 4th with him at CB and that's significant which ever way you slice it.

This thread needs closing.
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What is your obsession with Klavan? People who think the thread needs closing are unable to have a proper debate and want to stifle alternate opinions.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You've already been proven incorrect on the topics matter. As a result flogging a dead horse has been an exercise in futility but maintained for entertainment purposes which has nothing to do with a debate.

You're welcome to make another thread and discuss VVD's performance for the coming season, but this one you have lost.
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Your opinion is just that, an opinion and nothing more, and based on your general input it doesn't carry any real weight. If you feel I have 'lost', by whichever arbitrary and self favouring criteria you apply, feel free to tell yourself that, but ultimately it isn't an accurate statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Instead of giving reply to my valid points and arguments and forgoing the oppertunity to engage your brain to 'grace' your own topic with any sense of sensibility you again resort to the fabled ad hominem, taking away any hope of people taking you serious and digging your own grave with only your trolling to grasp on to.

There was nothing arbitrary about my opinion since it's validated by good reasoning and statistics that evidently disproves your initial topic (since now it only serves to mock your stupidity and trolling).


You need to step up and be a man by admitting that you were wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. This farce is close to depleting it's entertainment value. In other words, you need to wait untill van dijk gives you ammunition to write something that discredits him. You might want to recruit other trolls to accompany you. It must be a lonely journey for you when nobody but yourself believes your BS. How about that for accurate statements?

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I think that you assign far too much value to a football discussion forum. I don't need to do anything, I'm free to express my opinion and should a persuasive and well reasoned argument cause me change my view then I would do so. Unfortunately, with your limited reasoning, you've been unable to do that, and inexplicably it seems to cause you endless aggravation. I, on the other hand, am not especially invested to any great extent regarding whether you agree with me or not, so it doesn't eeally cause me any great concern.

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Absolute car crash of an article
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Are you the guy who makes Les Dennis seem funny? Your input is basic, at best.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Absolute car crash of an article
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Are you the guy who makes Les Dennis seem funny? Your input is basic, at best.
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Am I wrong though?

Look at this article, it's embarrassing.

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Absolute car crash of an article
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Are you the guy who makes Les Dennis seem funny? Your input is basic, at best.
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Am I wrong though?

Look at this article, it's embarrassing.
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Who for, me? It's well written and supported by rational contentions, so I'm certainly not embarrassed by it. Or did you mean its embarrassing for you? Possibly your inability to consider an alternate viewpoint, maybe its your unease that despite your distaste for the article, you can't stop visiting it? Maybe it's just your dismal attempts to make a joke. You pick.

posted on 22/7/18

posted on 22/7/18

Brain whole stance on this article is based on how highly he values his own opinion. It's cringeworthyly arrogant and he's quite obviously wrong.

posted on 22/7/18

Rational contentions ?

Maybe for the lay person who knows nothing about football.

posted on 22/7/18

Brainless is talking about supported by rational contentions but he is the same as the one who dont know nothing about math but wants to lecture people about math.

VVD has improved us since he came in. The stats supports this.

comment by Neo (U9135)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Absolute car crash of an article
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Are you the guy who makes Les Dennis seem funny? Your input is basic, at best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Am I wrong though?

Look at this article, it's embarrassing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who for, me? It's well written and supported by rational contentions, so I'm certainly not embarrassed by it. Or did you mean its embarrassing for you? Possibly your inability to consider an alternate viewpoint, maybe its your unease that despite your distaste for the article, you can't stop visiting it? Maybe it's just your dismal attempts to make a joke. You pick.
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No, it’s pretty clear it’s embarrassing for you, everyone agrees with me, except yourself.

You’ve had a flucking nightmare, just face you were wrong and admit it like a man.

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 13 minutes ago
Brainless is talking about supported by rational contentions but he is the same as the one who dont know nothing about math but wants to lecture people about math.

VVD has improved us since he came in. The stats supports this.
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The abbreviation of 'mathematics' is 'maths'.

posted on 22/7/18

That's pretty much all you know about it then Brain

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 3 hours, 37 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 2 hours, 51 minutes ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 11 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Neo (U9135)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
Absolute car crash of an article
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Are you the guy who makes Les Dennis seem funny? Your input is basic, at best.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Am I wrong though?

Look at this article, it's embarrassing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who for, me? It's well written and supported by rational contentions, so I'm certainly not embarrassed by it. Or did you mean its embarrassing for you? Possibly your inability to consider an alternate viewpoint, maybe its your unease that despite your distaste for the article, you can't stop visiting it? Maybe it's just your dismal attempts to make a joke. You pick.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, it’s pretty clear it’s embarrassing for you, everyone agrees with me, except yourself.

You’ve had a flucking nightmare, just face you were wrong and admit it like a man.
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Why are you so desperate for me to agree with you? Perhaps you should read the original post rather than just read the title, then try to have a reasonable discussion. And when you do, please try to use words rather than 'emoji' to express your points.

posted on 22/7/18

Brain, with the benefit of hindsight, do you think that VvD has improved Liverpool significantly or not? I do. Most people seem to think he has too. What about you?

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 2 minutes ago
That's pretty much all you know about it then Brain
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Your comment makes makes no sense.

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Be A Grizzly (U2206)
posted 23 seconds ago
Brain, with the benefit of hindsight, do you think that VvD has improved Liverpool significantly or not? I do. Most people seem to think he has too. What about you?
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I never said he hadn't improved Liverpool, in fact I stated that he would in the article. Has he improved Liverpool significantly? In my opinion, not yet.

posted on 22/7/18

Has he improved Liverpool significantly? In my opinion, not yet.

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Not yet...

So you're changing your stance already, from stating that he won't, to now being open to the possibility that he could

posted on 22/7/18

Even though he obviously has already.

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 25 minutes ago
Has he improved Liverpool significantly? In my opinion, not yet.

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Not yet...

So you're changing your stance already, from stating that he won't, to now being open to the possibility that he could
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My stance is the same. 'Not yet' means that as of this moment, I don't believe that it is the case. Furthermore, by using 'Not yet' it is demonstrating my openness for the possibility for him to have a such an impact, however within the context of the article, I don't believe he will.

posted on 22/7/18

Brain, now that you've lost the VVD argument let's talk about Alisson. Do you think he'll improve us significantly?

comment by Brain (U18701)

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 58 minutes ago
Brain, now that you've lost the VVD argument let's talk about Alisson. Do you think he'll improve us significantly?
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Your suggestion that I have 'lost the argument' is not the case, as my points remain valid. Regarding Allison, I really couldn't say I have seen enough to make a solid judgement. I saw him at the world cup and he seemed solid but unspectacular, and I saw him looking fairly unremarkable in the champions league, and he missed the chance to impress versus liverpool. Essentially, I haven't yet seen him do anything especially impressive, but I'll wait to pass judgement and hopefully he will do well.

posted on 22/7/18

Matip has been injured loads. Ergo the question is 'has VVD improved us significa8more than Klavan (or Matip all things considered)?

Yeah, he's significantly improved us. Fin.

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 21 hours ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 day, 3 hours ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Marksmanship (U21765)
posted 1 day ago
comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 month ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - If he asked me to I would move to Egypt just to iron Salah's socks. (U6374)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Significantly.

Matip has been injured most of the second half of the season so the alternative would be Klavan. I like Klavan but I severely doubt we'd have made the CL final and secured 4th with him at CB and that's significant which ever way you slice it.

This thread needs closing.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What is your obsession with Klavan? People who think the thread needs closing are unable to have a proper debate and want to stifle alternate opinions.

----------------------------------------------------------------------

You've already been proven incorrect on the topics matter. As a result flogging a dead horse has been an exercise in futility but maintained for entertainment purposes which has nothing to do with a debate.

You're welcome to make another thread and discuss VVD's performance for the coming season, but this one you have lost.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your opinion is just that, an opinion and nothing more, and based on your general input it doesn't carry any real weight. If you feel I have 'lost', by whichever arbitrary and self favouring criteria you apply, feel free to tell yourself that, but ultimately it isn't an accurate statement.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Instead of giving reply to my valid points and arguments and forgoing the oppertunity to engage your brain to 'grace' your own topic with any sense of sensibility you again resort to the fabled ad hominem, taking away any hope of people taking you serious and digging your own grave with only your trolling to grasp on to.

There was nothing arbitrary about my opinion since it's validated by good reasoning and statistics that evidently disproves your initial topic (since now it only serves to mock your stupidity and trolling).


You need to step up and be a man by admitting that you were wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. This farce is close to depleting it's entertainment value. In other words, you need to wait untill van dijk gives you ammunition to write something that discredits him. You might want to recruit other trolls to accompany you. It must be a lonely journey for you when nobody but yourself believes your BS. How about that for accurate statements?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think that you assign far too much value to a football discussion forum. I don't need to do anything, I'm free to express my opinion and should a persuasive and well reasoned argument cause me change my view then I would do so. Unfortunately, with your limited reasoning, you've been unable to do that, and inexplicably it seems to cause you endless aggravation. I, on the other hand, am not especially invested to any great extent regarding whether you agree with me or not, so it doesn't eeally cause me any great concern.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Perhaps you should look in the mirror ans ask yourself why you're the only one who believes in your 'reasoning'. I've made my case and it's closed. Wether you accept it or not, you were wrong.


You confirmed that it's merely a game for you and called you out for it. So I reiterate: you're just a troll and therefor I can not get aggrevated and can not invest much time to engage in this comedy show.


You were wrong.

posted on 22/7/18

comment by Brain (U18701)
posted 1 hour, 40 minutes ago
comment by Firmino's Brightest Tooth (U1217)
posted 58 minutes ago
Brain, now that you've lost the VVD argument let's talk about Alisson. Do you think he'll improve us significantly?
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Your suggestion that I have 'lost the argument' is not the case, as my points remain valid. Regarding Allison, I really couldn't say I have seen enough to make a solid judgement. I saw him at the world cup and he seemed solid but unspectacular, and I saw him looking fairly unremarkable in the champions league, and he missed the chance to impress versus liverpool. Essentially, I haven't yet seen him do anything especially impressive, but I'll wait to pass judgement and hopefully he will do well.
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Your point does not remain valid.

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