Lets focus on what Holgate said to the ref first.. as that will be in english so easier to decipher first.
He is from Sheffield so the ref could have struggled. Concerned that he grabbed the ref, that could land him in trouble.
Yeah putting your hands on the ref is a silly thing to do.
Hopefully it’s all nothing and everyone moves on.
Can we talk about the game?
Rooney always seems to play the occasion. Ok he might have wanted to get his team mates going but some of his challenges were like wtf are you doing?.
Everton played better when he went off and actually played way better than the league game.
Calvert Lewin isnt strong enough as a lone striker up front. Would've been a tougher game for us with Niasse up there.
Nah Niasse is really really poor, at least Calvert Lewin can control a ball.
Lookman is a real talent, Sam should definitely be playing him more imo. Sigurdsson looks a far far more effective player in the middle too.
Thought Jagielka had a great game for Everton too.
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
Can we talk about the game?
Rooney always seems to play the occasion. Ok he might have wanted to get his team mates going but some of his challenges were like wtf are you doing?.
Everton played better when he went off and actually played way better than the league game.
Calvert Lewin isnt strong enough as a lone striker up front. Would've been a tougher game for us with Niasse up there.
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Not today, it’s all about lip readers and language experts!
Seriously, Rooney in midfield didn’t don’t work. Calvert Lewin isn’t a lone striker and had very little support. His hold up was poor, but that isn’t his game.
Boliasie gave very little protection to Kenny. We had a poor RB at LB targeted by Klopp, Jagielka was back to his best.
Talk is about deceiving officials, so will Lallana simulated legs up ‘jump’ be looked at?
“Talk is about deceiving officials, so will Lallana simulated legs up ‘jump’ be looked at?”
It was as much a pen as the Calvert-Lewin one in the Derby last month.
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nah Niasse is really really poor, at least Calvert Lewin can control a ball.
Lookman is a real talent, Sam should definitely be playing him more imo. Sigurdsson looks a far far more effective player in the middle too.
Thought Jagielka had a great game for Everton too.
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Lookman has to get a look in!
If Lennon gets his mojo back him and lookman down either flank would be dangerous.
Bolasie too.. well marshalled by Robertson but not at the top of his game yet.
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
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Klopp has to stick to his guns and say it wasn’t a penno. So he must think it was a dive, maybe?
He did say it wasn’t a penalty.
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comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
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Klopp has to stick to his guns and say it wasn’t a penno. So he must think it was a dive, maybe?
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He said it wasn’t a pen. How was it a dive, there was clear contact. It was still a soft pen, just like the one last month. The one you said was a pen.
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comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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You have nothing to back that claim up and don’t know the content of the refs report. Calm down
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yeah putting your hands on the ref is a silly thing to do.
Hopefully it’s all nothing and everyone moves on.
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What? Holgate needs a ban for trying to injure other players.
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Also he can’t be, the ref saw the incident and took the action he deemed necessary. Retrospective action can only be taken when the ref doesn’t see something
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
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It deserved a yellow card. But even if the ref gave a card would that have stopped this alleged comment
No clue. No idea what was said so can’t really say one way or the other. Firmino doesn’t come across as the type to say that kind of shiiiiiiit but if he has then he deserves what he gets. As you said let’s wait and see what happens.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
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It deserved a yellow card. But even if the ref gave a card would that have stopped this alleged comment
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If the ref was in the motions of booking Holgate, yeah.
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
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Apart from the papers all reporting what he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5240581/Everton-boss-Allardyce-not-drawn-Holgate-Firmino-spat.html
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
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Apart from the papers all reporting what he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5240581/Everton-boss-Allardyce-not-drawn-Holgate-Firmino-spat.html
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All the papers, that’s just the Daily Mail.
And all based on hearsay. I will wait for the refs report.
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posted on 6/1/18
Lets focus on what Holgate said to the ref first.. as that will be in english so easier to decipher first.
posted on 6/1/18
He is from Sheffield so the ref could have struggled. Concerned that he grabbed the ref, that could land him in trouble.
posted on 6/1/18
Yeah putting your hands on the ref is a silly thing to do.
Hopefully it’s all nothing and everyone moves on.
posted on 6/1/18
Can we talk about the game?
Rooney always seems to play the occasion. Ok he might have wanted to get his team mates going but some of his challenges were like wtf are you doing?.
Everton played better when he went off and actually played way better than the league game.
Calvert Lewin isnt strong enough as a lone striker up front. Would've been a tougher game for us with Niasse up there.
posted on 6/1/18
Nah Niasse is really really poor, at least Calvert Lewin can control a ball.
Lookman is a real talent, Sam should definitely be playing him more imo. Sigurdsson looks a far far more effective player in the middle too.
Thought Jagielka had a great game for Everton too.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 3 minutes ago
Can we talk about the game?
Rooney always seems to play the occasion. Ok he might have wanted to get his team mates going but some of his challenges were like wtf are you doing?.
Everton played better when he went off and actually played way better than the league game.
Calvert Lewin isnt strong enough as a lone striker up front. Would've been a tougher game for us with Niasse up there.
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Not today, it’s all about lip readers and language experts!
Seriously, Rooney in midfield didn’t don’t work. Calvert Lewin isn’t a lone striker and had very little support. His hold up was poor, but that isn’t his game.
Boliasie gave very little protection to Kenny. We had a poor RB at LB targeted by Klopp, Jagielka was back to his best.
Talk is about deceiving officials, so will Lallana simulated legs up ‘jump’ be looked at?
posted on 6/1/18
“Talk is about deceiving officials, so will Lallana simulated legs up ‘jump’ be looked at?”
It was as much a pen as the Calvert-Lewin one in the Derby last month.
posted on 6/1/18
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 2 minutes ago
Nah Niasse is really really poor, at least Calvert Lewin can control a ball.
Lookman is a real talent, Sam should definitely be playing him more imo. Sigurdsson looks a far far more effective player in the middle too.
Thought Jagielka had a great game for Everton too.
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Lookman has to get a look in!
If Lennon gets his mojo back him and lookman down either flank would be dangerous.
Bolasie too.. well marshalled by Robertson but not at the top of his game yet.
posted on 6/1/18
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
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Klopp has to stick to his guns and say it wasn’t a penno. So he must think it was a dive, maybe?
posted on 6/1/18
He did say it wasn’t a penalty.
posted on 6/1/18
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posted on 6/1/18
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
Yep. Neither were a foul or both were. Both had minimal contact and the player went down. Both given as pens, at least it’s consistent.
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Klopp has to stick to his guns and say it wasn’t a penno. So he must think it was a dive, maybe?
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He said it wasn’t a pen. How was it a dive, there was clear contact. It was still a soft pen, just like the one last month. The one you said was a pen.
posted on 6/1/18
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posted on 6/1/18
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 3 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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You have nothing to back that claim up and don’t know the content of the refs report. Calm down
posted on 6/1/18
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
posted on 6/1/18
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by TTliv87 (U11882)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yeah putting your hands on the ref is a silly thing to do.
Hopefully it’s all nothing and everyone moves on.
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What? Holgate needs a ban for trying to injure other players.
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Also he can’t be, the ref saw the incident and took the action he deemed necessary. Retrospective action can only be taken when the ref doesn’t see something
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
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It deserved a yellow card. But even if the ref gave a card would that have stopped this alleged comment
posted on 6/1/18
No clue. No idea what was said so can’t really say one way or the other. Firmino doesn’t come across as the type to say that kind of shiiiiiiit but if he has then he deserves what he gets. As you said let’s wait and see what happens.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tiddles (U17634)
posted 1 minute ago
It was a stupid push in the back. I’d have given him a yellow if i was the ref.
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It deserved a yellow card. But even if the ref gave a card would that have stopped this alleged comment
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If the ref was in the motions of booking Holgate, yeah.
posted on 6/1/18
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
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Apart from the papers all reporting what he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5240581/Everton-boss-Allardyce-not-drawn-Holgate-Firmino-spat.html
posted on 6/1/18
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Arouna Jagielka oooh I wanna take ya, Heitinga Nikica come on pretty mama (U1308)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by KLS. (U1695)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by SOS Usmanov (U21076)
posted 2 minutes ago
He said the n word. He's a racist. End of discussion.
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Apart from the fact that he didn’t but well done on the the attention seeking, crawl back under your rock!
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You have nothing to back that claim up either. Calm down and wait for the report.
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Apart from the papers all reporting what he said.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5240581/Everton-boss-Allardyce-not-drawn-Holgate-Firmino-spat.html
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All the papers, that’s just the Daily Mail.
And all based on hearsay. I will wait for the refs report.
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