English game hasn't done VAR much favours but it's the right direction. So much money is involved and on top of that a lot of preparation. Last thing you want is all of that to go to waste due to a wrong decision
To be honest I think people fall into 2 camps. People who know their team has suffered from decisions so want VAR and those who havent suffered and say it will disrupt the game.
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
Fa said they don't care if FIFA use it won't be used in the pl next year.
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
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Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
Whatever next, driverless cars?
None of this technology changes the rules,
+++
of course it does. The refs stops the game to watch the replays and somebody else (unamed) helps makes the decisions
That's a change in the decision making process. The rules of the game are still the same.
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
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Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
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You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
I don't see what the big problem with VAR is. Used right, it is a good tool. Imagine how different things could have been if:
Lampard's goal against Germany had been given...
Henry had been pulled up for handball against Republic of Ireland...
Pedro Mendes' goal against United had stood...
About a million penalties either had or hadn't been given, depending on which way they went...
VAR done properly will not have to be used in every scenario in the game, will take 30 seconds per incident, and will give the right outcome more often than not. I enjoy games more when poor officiating decisions don't spoil everything.
comment by WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
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Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
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You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
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Good point WOKO. Clubs invest millions building teams and training, only to see their efforts messed up in a moment of madness by a drunk or corrupt referee. Unless your club consistently benefitted from pathetic ref decisions you should embrace technology. Goal thru side-netting being allowed (Bayern), ball crossing the line by a metre but being denied (Mendes), Henry's handball sinking Ireland, Diego's hand of God, the list of horror decisions is too long and still growing. Better late than wrong. Well done FIFA for bringing football in line with the rest of the sporting world. Decision-making will speed up with time, but at least the decisions will almost always be correct.
comment by WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
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You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
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Oh do I? What about us vs Barca (2009 Overbo) or NI vs the Swiss a few months ago? Still wouldnt want VAR , thats football for me mate
That's a change in the decision making process. The rules of the game are still the same.
***
again, no it isn't. They now will stop the game to review decisions. This is a change in the rules. What don't you understand?
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
None of this technology changes the rules,
+++
of course it does. The refs stops the game to watch the replays and somebody else (unamed) helps makes the decisions
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That doesn't change the rules. It changes how the rules are implemented but offside is offside. A goal is a goal.
That isn't a rule change. What don't you understand?
yes it is. VAR is a blatant rule change.
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 29 minutes ago
yes it is. VAR is a blatant rule change.
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Which rule does it change?
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
In defiance of a growing backlash against the introduction of Video Assistant Referees to the sport, the International Football Association Board took the historic decision to incorporate them into the Laws of the Game at its annual general meeting at Fifa’s Zurich headquarters.
+++
Again, what don't you understand?
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
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comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
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Good.
Baby steps.
So which rules will be changed?
Goals? Players equipment? fouls and misconduct?
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
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+++
best thing you have posted in this thread so far
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
thick?
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Name one single thing in the laws of the game that will be changed. One single rule that will be different for the prem over the rest of England and Wales.
Here's the rule book. Any one of these laws:
http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/90/11/67/lawsofthegame2017-2018-en_neutral.pdf
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posted on 3/3/18
English game hasn't done VAR much favours but it's the right direction. So much money is involved and on top of that a lot of preparation. Last thing you want is all of that to go to waste due to a wrong decision
posted on 3/3/18
Manfrom
posted on 3/3/18
To be honest I think people fall into 2 camps. People who know their team has suffered from decisions so want VAR and those who havent suffered and say it will disrupt the game.
posted on 3/3/18
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
posted on 3/3/18
Fa said they don't care if FIFA use it won't be used in the pl next year.
posted on 3/3/18
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
posted on 3/3/18
Whatever next, driverless cars?
posted on 3/3/18
None of this technology changes the rules,
+++
of course it does. The refs stops the game to watch the replays and somebody else (unamed) helps makes the decisions
posted on 3/3/18
That's a change in the decision making process. The rules of the game are still the same.
posted on 3/3/18
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
posted on 3/3/18
I don't see what the big problem with VAR is. Used right, it is a good tool. Imagine how different things could have been if:
Lampard's goal against Germany had been given...
Henry had been pulled up for handball against Republic of Ireland...
Pedro Mendes' goal against United had stood...
About a million penalties either had or hadn't been given, depending on which way they went...
VAR done properly will not have to be used in every scenario in the game, will take 30 seconds per incident, and will give the right outcome more often than not. I enjoy games more when poor officiating decisions don't spoil everything.
posted on 3/3/18
comment by WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)
posted 1 hour, 1 minute ago
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good point WOKO. Clubs invest millions building teams and training, only to see their efforts messed up in a moment of madness by a drunk or corrupt referee. Unless your club consistently benefitted from pathetic ref decisions you should embrace technology. Goal thru side-netting being allowed (Bayern), ball crossing the line by a metre but being denied (Mendes), Henry's handball sinking Ireland, Diego's hand of God, the list of horror decisions is too long and still growing. Better late than wrong. Well done FIFA for bringing football in line with the rest of the sporting world. Decision-making will speed up with time, but at least the decisions will almost always be correct.
posted on 3/3/18
comment by WOKO - thats Wenger out, Kronke out (U16927)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
comment by AlexTia (U7067)
posted 1 hour, 11 minutes ago
comment by bloomike (U7734)
posted 18 minutes ago
Well said AlexTia.
Tennis and cricket have clearly defined periods of action with pauses in between, rugby less so. So each of those sports is suited to technology. Football has only two defined periods of play, and each of those must be allowed to ebb and flow - and this is the important bit - with consequences to almost every instant of action. Anything that interferes with this will eventually kill the spectacle.
I prefer a game between humans, reffed by humans. Humans make mistakes - players and refs alike, - so what? it's worked for a very long time at all levels of the game, and anything that can't be implemented at every level cannot be included into the laws of the game.
In my opinion MOTD and their ridiculous slide-rule examination of every offside decision has a lot to answer for. VAR enthusiasts - go and play a computer game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed mate , we have done this long without it, thats what makes the game special , the human element.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You support a team that benefit more than they suffer so of course you wouldnt want those decisions corrected as I said earlier.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Oh do I? What about us vs Barca (2009 Overbo) or NI vs the Swiss a few months ago? Still wouldnt want VAR , thats football for me mate
posted on 3/3/18
That's a change in the decision making process. The rules of the game are still the same.
***
again, no it isn't. They now will stop the game to review decisions. This is a change in the rules. What don't you understand?
posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 2 hours, 57 minutes ago
None of this technology changes the rules,
+++
of course it does. The refs stops the game to watch the replays and somebody else (unamed) helps makes the decisions
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesn't change the rules. It changes how the rules are implemented but offside is offside. A goal is a goal.
posted on 3/3/18
That isn't a rule change. What don't you understand?
posted on 3/3/18
yes it is. VAR is a blatant rule change.
posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 29 minutes ago
yes it is. VAR is a blatant rule change.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which rule does it change?
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
posted on 3/3/18
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
posted on 3/3/18
In defiance of a growing backlash against the introduction of Video Assistant Referees to the sport, the International Football Association Board took the historic decision to incorporate them into the Laws of the Game at its annual general meeting at Fifa’s Zurich headquarters.
+++
Again, what don't you understand?
posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
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posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Good.
Baby steps.
So which rules will be changed?
Goals? Players equipment? fouls and misconduct?
posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 22 minutes ago
Explain how the offside rule will be different.
***
what the fook are you on about?
It won't.
Obviously.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
+++
best thing you have posted in this thread so far
posted on 3/3/18
thick?
posted on 3/3/18
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 3 minutes ago
thick?
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Name one single thing in the laws of the game that will be changed. One single rule that will be different for the prem over the rest of England and Wales.
Here's the rule book. Any one of these laws:
http://resources.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/90/11/67/lawsofthegame2017-2018-en_neutral.pdf
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