comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stop ruining it you end of a bell
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Oh shhh, you beginning of a nani

comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 10 minutes ago
Stop ruining it you end of a bell
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Oh shhh, you beginning of a nani
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you shhh you spoilering nonce

Ok ok.. let’s all calm down here, getting far too emotional. Poo-pies flying about the place… calm.

You kick off the Dr Strange 2 spoilers.
What I’ll ask first, has anyones thoughts on the film, changed in any way for better or worse?
Mines still at the 7.0 mark.

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Ok Dr Strange 2 spoilers follow here.....

Nah Id ihave to see it again, what was the plot question you had btw (j think it was you)

John Krasinski as Reed Richards!!

Go told to shut up at the cinema for my reaction to seeing him. I got flashbacks to this thread

The one thing that really annoyed me was how easily Wanda killed Reed & Black Bolt, but struggled more against Captain Carter?

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
Nah Id ihave to see it again, what was the plot question you had btw (j think it was you)
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Ok, so, I just felt this was a Movie version of WandaVision. Didn’t we see this story already?

Oh wow

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comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
Nah Id ihave to see it again, what was the plot question you had btw (j think it was you)
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Ok, so, I just felt this was a Movie version of WandaVision. Didn’t we see this story already?

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Oh no idea, never bothered to watch it

comment by Pun (U21588)
posted 57 seconds ago
The one thing that really annoyed me was how easily Wanda killed Reed & Black Bolt, but struggled more against Captain Carter?
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I think like Guv, this was spoiled for me going in. But it was great to see him in the role, but it was quick, and I dunno, everyone felt a bit wooden.
Like when Reed and Bolt die, the way Marvel and Carter just look at each other was odd I thought.

I’m like, why are you lot just standing there, do something!!
Oh yeh, and why when Strange first meets them, does she throw the Shield. Was she just showing off?

comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by StringerBell (U11749)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Taki Minamino (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
Nah Id ihave to see it again, what was the plot question you had btw (j think it was you)
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Ok, so, I just felt this was a Movie version of WandaVision. Didn’t we see this story already?

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Oh no idea, never bothered to watch it
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Ah…, I mean there’s more mystery with WandaVision, where this is, ‘I want to be with my kids’’. But I didn’t feel the emotion of the end, cos I felt I’ve seen this already, and it was more impactful 1st time.

Btw, even though it was spoiled, and the scene rather short, I wasn’t bothered by the Cameos. It was nice, they did their exposition, which made sense to the story, a nice twist.
And for all the talk of expectations of these Cameos, I felt the film didn’t really need them. The film was fine as it was. I think more cameos might’ve spoiled it and taken away just for cheap thrills.
Benedict and Olsen were really good I thought.

The cameos were necessary for the larger universe

A) for helping to represent the idea of different universes, and how they might be different

B) introducing new characters to the MCU

C) Showcasing Wanda's power with the Darkhold

I loved it, I loved seeing them all get facking annihilated, I loved watching a strange get impaled on a fence, I loved Wanda's slide in to increasing insanity and desperation, I liked her commupance with her children.. it was a great film

comment by Insert random username (U10647)
posted 8 minutes ago
The cameos were necessary for the larger universe

A) for helping to represent the idea of different universes, and how they might be different

B) introducing new characters to the MCU

C) Showcasing Wanda's power with the Darkhold

I loved it, I loved seeing them all get facking annihilated, I loved watching a strange get impaled on a fence, I loved Wanda's slide in to increasing insanity and desperation, I liked her commupance with her children.. it was a great film
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This x100

The cameos were great albeit short. Hopefully Krasinski is reed in “our” mcu going forward.

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I also liked the official MCU designation of the main universe as 616, Strange actually mentioning his sister, and the hint of the 90's theme when Xavier appeared (also his chair being accurate from that series)

Also commeupance.. didnt proofread that earlier, how embarrassing...


Yeah Prof X's chair was great, and I agree about having a designation.. that's going to help going forward

Sounds like RR and BlackBolt were added in later than the rest, hence why they both had such quick and disappointing deaths

Can we post Dr Strange spoilers?

Yea

I hope so otherwise this whole page needs deleted!

Things I liked with Dr Strange 2

The opening scene with defender Strange trying to kill America Chavez to take her powers was great.

The exchange between Strange and that doctor he worked with who complained about how he lost 2 cats during the blip, and his brother

MCU’s idea of dreams being a reality in another universe.

Wanda was facking bad ass. Used all her tricks from mind control to imploding Black Bolts head

Strange was not a complete idiot and came out of the movie looking much better than he did in NWH.

Thought the story of Supreme Strange’s dark hold corruption was really interesting and hope What If do an episode on it in the future.

Strange and variant Christine Palmer’s love story that couldn’t be. Felt genuinely bad for Strange here.

The musical note battle with Sinister Strange ending with him getting impaled.

I’ve noticed a lot of people thought Strange reanimating Defender Strange’s body and using the demons was ridiculous but I really liked it.

There was real continuity from Infinity Wars, WV and What If.

Things I didn’t like:

The fight between the one eyed octopus went on FOREVERRRRR. Why did it take so long to kill it?

America Chavez character wasn’t particularly annoying but I just never cared for her. At the end when Wong told Strange to take her powers, I wanted him to do it.

The movies is called Multiverse of Madness but there was no real multiversal madness. There were 3 universes in total throughout the whole movie and the only madness was being caused by Wanda’s dream walking.

Why the fack did Wong bring Wanda to Mount Wundagore? Surely the fate of the multiverse is more important than the lives of a few of his buddies. As Strange says "in the grand calculus of the multiverse, their sacrifice is worth more than their lives”.

The Illuminati were complete bums. Reeve Richards, the smartest man in the world, just saw Black Bolt’s head cave in and thought it would be a good idea to attack Wanda Also WTF, why was nobody horrified when that happened? And Captain Carter even dropped the “I can do this all day” line when here life was in massive jeopardy. Also dropping a statue on variant Captain Marvel with a statue was enough to kill her? Seriously? But the biggest bum of all was Supreme Mordo who lost a fight to Strange who was in anti magic handcuffs and was stupid enough to pick a fight with him in the first place when his buddies were getting slaughtered. Where was the logic in all this?

The pacing was all over the place. Supposedly 40 minutes of filming was removed from the final cut? You could definitely see that here.

Wanda was great but man she did not deserve the chance to right her wrongs. She slaughtered dozens of innocent people and all it took in the end to stop her was seeing her kids freaked out. Why not just keep going to other universes until she finds versions of her kids that would accept her?

Where the hell was Vision?!?!?! Surely he is still alive in other universes? Thanos did not have the mind stone in his gauntlet in universe 818 so where was Vision when all this was happening?

The Sam Raimi horror stuff just felt a bit forced a lot of the time and out of place with the tone of the movie.

Wanda’s character arc from WV was completely ruined. At the end of WV she comes to terms with her grief and releases everyone from her hex, realising what she was doing was wrong and not the right way to cope. I know she was corrupted by the Dark Hold but we never saw how or why. And at the end she was still able to realise her wrongdoings despite being corrupted. Just seemed extremely basic to me.

The final scene ending on a cliffhanger with Strange getting the 3rd eye and then 5 minutes later he is walking around happy out and embracing the 3rd eye. WTF not to mention the CGI for that eye was painfully bad.

There’s probably other stuff I’ll think of but that’s all I’ve got so far off the top of my head.

MCU’s idea of dreams being a reality in another universe.
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As someone pointed out to me - Iron Man had similar dreams, in IW when he dreamed they had a son called Morgan. Now I assume he was seeing a variant of himself from another universe.