comment by Patriarch (U11015)
posted 12 minutes ago
For those whinging that this means that Pogba is going or that they won't be able to play together, the article states, "he is at his best when given the box-to-box role in a 4-3-3 formation."
I've never seen him but a player who excels in the box-to-box role of a midfield 3 is exactly the kind of player we need to play in a three with Matic and Pogba.
You would almost think people didn't actually read the article and just wanted to talk the same dung they always do.
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Welcome back Patriarch! Been ages
Any aging Matic doing the work for both Savic n Pogba against the top sides would equal disaster.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 0 seconds ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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Did you read anything about the player in the OP? He’s someone who can play anywhere in the midfield three and can sit back when Pogba goes forward and vice versa.
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
As his name has been mentioned a few times on here, we're all aware he isn't someone in hi late twenties to early thirties.
I guess the Op is against this signing as he isn't "experienced" and hasn't played under Jose before. Two criteria that the Op likes to harp on about.
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Yawn
I want us to sign a mix of players. Not all young, not all old
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Wow, what a surprise. And I thought there was only two types of United fans. People that want only under 23s and you, who wants to load the team with those about to retire.
Se85
This guy is not some attacking mid who never does legwork for the team. You have him down as another Pogba
He’s really not that
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
As his name has been mentioned a few times on here, we're all aware he isn't someone in hi late twenties to early thirties.
I guess the Op is against this signing as he isn't "experienced" and hasn't played under Jose before. Two criteria that the Op likes to harp on about.
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Yawn
I want us to sign a mix of players. Not all young, not all old
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Wow, what a surprise. And I thought there was only two types of United fans. People that want only under 23s and you, who wants to load the team with those about to retire.
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Indeed
SE85
Read the effing article for the love of god.
A box to box is what we need with Matic and Pogba.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 3 minutes ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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It could work if we got in someone more mobile than Matic or a younger Carrick.
SE85
Seriously, read the article before making yourself look even more stupid.
Article says he excels as a box to box midfielder. For United to play a midfield 3 they need a box to box player to compliment Matic who sits deep and Pogba, who theoretically would be able to play more advanced.
City, De Bruyne and Silva have absolutely nothing to do with it. Your whole post was dung.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 hour ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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Have you seen him play much, out of interest?
That's a really strange conclusion to draw if you haven't.
I read the article FFS. I just have another opinion to you. Doesn't make me wrong. And I have watched a little bit of Savic since we got linked to him and his attacking game is far stronger than his defensive game. I think he's a good player I just don't think him Matic and Pogba is the answer. Sorry to upset you all.
Sadly with the way Pogba is a more industrious midfielder ala Kante would be far better for us. Or Savic as a straight replacement for Pogba alternatively.
Also Robb got this from the Sun guys.
I think whoever we sign as the extra midfielder next to Pogba and Matic needs to be able to chip in with the goals so would be very keen for Savic or another player of his ilk. We need more creativity in that midfield evidenced by us losing to all 3 of the promoted sides. Also, we currently play with Herrera who is in nature, a box to box midfielder and we have done pretty well against the top teams recently. An upgrade would do us no harm whatsoever
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
Yeah I also would like someone more mobile than Matic in an ideal world as well. I agree, a rw and two top full backs (at least a new lb) would go down a treat.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
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I think Jose knows what we need in CM this summer more than you and if he thinks this guy is the answer surely he deserves the benefit of the doubt?
Get rid of Matic then. You can't play with two defensive midfielders.
Sometimes I really do wonder why you have a season ticket SE85. Your understanding of football is often very lacking.
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
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I think Jose knows what we need in CM this summer more than you and if he thinks this guy is the answer surely he deserves the benefit of the doubt?
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Jose knows more about football than you me and everyone in here Robb. Not doubting it. Doesn't mean he doesn't get it wrong sometimes because he already had. Doesn't mean I can't have an opinion either.
I think a more deep lying player would make us a better team although Savic would add more goals and attacking okay I don't feel Matic alone is up to the job.
Rakitic, Verratti, Modric, Thiago type player better also for me.
Robb
Jose gives us no inclination that he has a clue what player he wants.
He has just been playing footy manager with an exceptionall amount of cash for the last two years.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Get rid of Matic then. You can't play with two defensive midfielders.
Sometimes I really do wonder why you have a season ticket SE85. Your understanding of football is often very lacking.
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Not what I said is it? I said because of Pogba. You have to take into consideration him you Muppet. If it's was KDB at United we could get away with 1 DM as he works hard too and actually tracks runners. Pogba doesn't. And I watch him most weeks in the flesh unlike you Pal who watches him from your chair in America so I wouldn't go there.
Pogba is a bit of an issue. He doesn't do the work to play with only 1 DM in my opinion.
Of course getting rid of Matic.could be the answer you're right but do you see that happening? I don't.
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 26 seconds ago
Robb
Jose gives us no inclination that he has a clue what player he wants.
He has just been playing footy manager with an exceptionall amount of cash for the last two years.
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On football manager you have to choose a style of play though... I think jose skipped that screen
Which is why a box to box midfielder is required instead of an attacking or defensive one, SE85.
What part of that don't you understand?
This isn't hard.
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Any aging Matic doing the work for both Savic n Pogba against the top sides would equal disaster.
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What part of box to box do you struggle with?
Matic holding... Savic box to box... Pogba free role
It's not like pogba does zero tracking back anyway. It's just not his forte... same for many AMFs.
Ps... if the guy is energetic... we could also see savic, herrera and pogba
Or if baz gets his wish:
Matic, savic, fellaini !
I don't think he's a box to box player really. That's my point. He's got something like 15 goals this season hasn't he? How many box to box miss score that many? Can't think of a single one. He's far more attacking that people think he is.
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posted on 7/5/18
comment by Patriarch (U11015)
posted 12 minutes ago
For those whinging that this means that Pogba is going or that they won't be able to play together, the article states, "he is at his best when given the box-to-box role in a 4-3-3 formation."
I've never seen him but a player who excels in the box-to-box role of a midfield 3 is exactly the kind of player we need to play in a three with Matic and Pogba.
You would almost think people didn't actually read the article and just wanted to talk the same dung they always do.
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Welcome back Patriarch! Been ages
posted on 7/5/18
Any aging Matic doing the work for both Savic n Pogba against the top sides would equal disaster.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 0 seconds ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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Did you read anything about the player in the OP? He’s someone who can play anywhere in the midfield three and can sit back when Pogba goes forward and vice versa.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
As his name has been mentioned a few times on here, we're all aware he isn't someone in hi late twenties to early thirties.
I guess the Op is against this signing as he isn't "experienced" and hasn't played under Jose before. Two criteria that the Op likes to harp on about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yawn
I want us to sign a mix of players. Not all young, not all old
-------
Wow, what a surprise. And I thought there was only two types of United fans. People that want only under 23s and you, who wants to load the team with those about to retire.
posted on 7/5/18
Se85
This guy is not some attacking mid who never does legwork for the team. You have him down as another Pogba
He’s really not that
posted on 7/5/18
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 32 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
As his name has been mentioned a few times on here, we're all aware he isn't someone in hi late twenties to early thirties.
I guess the Op is against this signing as he isn't "experienced" and hasn't played under Jose before. Two criteria that the Op likes to harp on about.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yawn
I want us to sign a mix of players. Not all young, not all old
-------
Wow, what a surprise. And I thought there was only two types of United fans. People that want only under 23s and you, who wants to load the team with those about to retire.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Indeed
posted on 7/5/18
SE85
Read the effing article for the love of god.
A box to box is what we need with Matic and Pogba.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 3 minutes ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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It could work if we got in someone more mobile than Matic or a younger Carrick.
posted on 7/5/18
SE85
Seriously, read the article before making yourself look even more stupid.
Article says he excels as a box to box midfielder. For United to play a midfield 3 they need a box to box player to compliment Matic who sits deep and Pogba, who theoretically would be able to play more advanced.
City, De Bruyne and Silva have absolutely nothing to do with it. Your whole post was dung.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 hour ago
Patriarch
That's just nonsense you've just typed. Utter nonsense.
Surely it depends on who the players you have in that 3 not just any 3 midfielders? Or are you saying it doesn't matter?
Like somebody eluded to above if it works for City it could work for us is also utter drivel. For starters KDB n David Silva work very hard for the team off the ball, Pogba sadly doesn't.
So no I don't think he's the kind of player who will work in a 3 if Paul Pogba is one of them sadly.
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Have you seen him play much, out of interest?
That's a really strange conclusion to draw if you haven't.
posted on 7/5/18
I read the article FFS. I just have another opinion to you. Doesn't make me wrong. And I have watched a little bit of Savic since we got linked to him and his attacking game is far stronger than his defensive game. I think he's a good player I just don't think him Matic and Pogba is the answer. Sorry to upset you all.
Sadly with the way Pogba is a more industrious midfielder ala Kante would be far better for us. Or Savic as a straight replacement for Pogba alternatively.
posted on 7/5/18
Also Robb got this from the Sun guys.
posted on 7/5/18
I think whoever we sign as the extra midfielder next to Pogba and Matic needs to be able to chip in with the goals so would be very keen for Savic or another player of his ilk. We need more creativity in that midfield evidenced by us losing to all 3 of the promoted sides. Also, we currently play with Herrera who is in nature, a box to box midfielder and we have done pretty well against the top teams recently. An upgrade would do us no harm whatsoever
posted on 7/5/18
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
posted on 7/5/18
Yeah I also would like someone more mobile than Matic in an ideal world as well. I agree, a rw and two top full backs (at least a new lb) would go down a treat.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
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I think Jose knows what we need in CM this summer more than you and if he thinks this guy is the answer surely he deserves the benefit of the doubt?
posted on 7/5/18
Get rid of Matic then. You can't play with two defensive midfielders.
Sometimes I really do wonder why you have a season ticket SE85. Your understanding of football is often very lacking.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Robbelu Lukaku 🇦🇺🇪🇸 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'm not disputing he wouldn't chip in with goals and assists. He clearly would. I'd be worried about an aging Matic who has looked exposed at times with less defensive player than SMS.
I don't feel we need a goal scoring midfielder really. What we need more is a Kante type player to further free up Pogba, buy two world class attacking fullbacks and a RW/RF.
People are entitled to their opinions though. Just think we'd get over run in the middle and also people forget Jose Mourinho is our boss not Jurgen Klopp.
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I think Jose knows what we need in CM this summer more than you and if he thinks this guy is the answer surely he deserves the benefit of the doubt?
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Jose knows more about football than you me and everyone in here Robb. Not doubting it. Doesn't mean he doesn't get it wrong sometimes because he already had. Doesn't mean I can't have an opinion either.
I think a more deep lying player would make us a better team although Savic would add more goals and attacking okay I don't feel Matic alone is up to the job.
Rakitic, Verratti, Modric, Thiago type player better also for me.
posted on 7/5/18
Robb
Jose gives us no inclination that he has a clue what player he wants.
He has just been playing footy manager with an exceptionall amount of cash for the last two years.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 2 minutes ago
Get rid of Matic then. You can't play with two defensive midfielders.
Sometimes I really do wonder why you have a season ticket SE85. Your understanding of football is often very lacking.
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Not what I said is it? I said because of Pogba. You have to take into consideration him you Muppet. If it's was KDB at United we could get away with 1 DM as he works hard too and actually tracks runners. Pogba doesn't. And I watch him most weeks in the flesh unlike you Pal who watches him from your chair in America so I wouldn't go there.
Pogba is a bit of an issue. He doesn't do the work to play with only 1 DM in my opinion.
Of course getting rid of Matic.could be the answer you're right but do you see that happening? I don't.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 26 seconds ago
Robb
Jose gives us no inclination that he has a clue what player he wants.
He has just been playing footy manager with an exceptionall amount of cash for the last two years.
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On football manager you have to choose a style of play though... I think jose skipped that screen
posted on 7/5/18
Which is why a box to box midfielder is required instead of an attacking or defensive one, SE85.
What part of that don't you understand?
This isn't hard.
posted on 7/5/18
comment by Stretford_Ender85 (U10955)
posted 1 hour, 50 minutes ago
Any aging Matic doing the work for both Savic n Pogba against the top sides would equal disaster.
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What part of box to box do you struggle with?
Matic holding... Savic box to box... Pogba free role
It's not like pogba does zero tracking back anyway. It's just not his forte... same for many AMFs.
posted on 7/5/18
Ps... if the guy is energetic... we could also see savic, herrera and pogba
Or if baz gets his wish:
Matic, savic, fellaini !
posted on 7/5/18
I don't think he's a box to box player really. That's my point. He's got something like 15 goals this season hasn't he? How many box to box miss score that many? Can't think of a single one. He's far more attacking that people think he is.
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