Same with most sports especially boxing.
comment by THudd. (U1029)
posted 4 seconds ago
Same with most sports especially boxing.
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Yeah boxers are the biggest mercenaries of all. Some of the will fight just about anyone if the money is right.
Hate how money dictates everyone now.
Modern players are only interested in ££££££££££££££££££££££££s, nothing else. Most have no pride, and would sell their own Grannie, if it meant they could earn a few quid more.
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There's life beyond football for god's sake. Footballers aged 35 are granddad's of the game but by no means old in actual life.
Maximising your wealth whilst playing football is frowned upon? I don't get why someone should lose on significant earnings just to stay at the club you love. Makes no sense.
The only reason you never saw it as much previously was because nobody paid them like today but give George Best £50k a week and he'd play for Torquay United.
Difficult to say how much you'd have your head turned by huge sums of money until you're in that position. Nothing specific to footballers though. Same in other sports, and other industries too. Well thought of actors will star in a movie they know and expect to be shiyte if the money is good enough etc. It's not all about the prestige.
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comment by Number-Eight (U9729)
posted 10 minutes ago
morning chaps
I don't get the hate that some footballers get for wanting to make as much money as possible.
I can imagine the support you felt for your boyhood team dissipates when you become a professional, because you don't view your fellow colleagues and opponents as superstars anymore, because you're one of them now
likewise if you're a professional football, you're playing for the love of football, but also to make as much money as possible doing so
I can, hand on heart, say that if I was playing for my boyhood team Tottenham and lets say for arguments sake Man City came in to buy me and improve on my wages by £20k - £30k... I'd happily go.
I am still playing football, I am still a pro and I'm earning more money
i don't get the hate they get because I can guarantee that 95% of us, if we turned pro and 2 clubs were in for us, both on the same level, you'd pick the one who's chucking more cash at you.
i don't see the shame in admitting that. We do it in our every day jobs
Obviously there are certain exceptions but on the whole... there you go
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I hear what your saying and a lot of people think like that.
But personally I am not driven by money and I can honestly say that if I was one of Spurs star players I would rather stay at the club I love than leave for more money. Even if Spurs paid me half what I could get elsewhere.
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
Joey Barton’s book clearly spells it out
Free transfer and he went to QPR, 50k a week with a huge signing on fee and stayed his whole term
Admittedly he’s caaak but he could have gone elsewhere to a better team
It's not a few quid though any more, the difference is huge. Could maybe stay at Spurs on say £100k a week as a top earner (I don't know what you actually pay), or be offered £250k a week at Madrid or something silly, along with the additional exposure and millions in advertising campaigns etc.
Hard to say what you'd do until you're in that position I think.
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing. When money becomes that easy to obtain, then it losses its value in my eyes. I'm sure players are influenced a lot by the agents and people around them to make as much money as they can in their short lived careers, but I myself think it's greed. 70k or 120k a week for 10 years will set you up for life, no matter which amount.
comment by EL-TORO (U13505)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing. When money becomes that easy to obtain, then it losses its value in my eyes. I'm sure players are influenced a lot by the agents and people around them to make as much money as they can in their short lived careers, but I myself think it's greed. 70k or 120k a week for 10 years will set you up for life, no matter which amount.
----------------------------------------------------------------------Agree with that, until you get into the real big money transfers and the difference is ramped up.
When it comes down to a player moving to a Madrid or Barca from Spurs or Liverpool eg, then it's a whole different story. I think Bale went to win stuff at Madrid, not just earn an extra 100k a week.
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
I can't think of any examples where a player left a club to a club at the same level, for 'not much more money'.
Has it happened?
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
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That's just your envy of their earnings Sandy which you can't seem to handle.
If you were on £80k a year would you be happy to take a pay cut and earn £40k a year instead because of some false sense of loyalty to a company. You would still be making about £15k a year more than the average salary. It sounds stupid.
Just because these figures are multiplied it doesn't mean they should be okay with taking a pay cut. Why not make an extra £5m a year and secure the future of many people around you.
Ridiculous argument.
And so is this business about I'd play for the club I love. That will only take you so far but at the end of the day your family and friends are more important than a fickle fan base that will turn on you for a string of poor performances. Your legacy as a player will not really change but your future and the wealth you pass down will.
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
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This
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
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Would you like 3.64 million a year, or 6.2 million a year?
Meh, not fussed mate near enough the same anyway.
Yeah I’ll take 70k please
Not to be too rude... but... duh!
Look at City sides of 08/09 - or the likes of Ngolo Kante. Did they leave for money?
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you were on £80k a year would you be happy to take a pay cut and earn £40k a year instead because of some false sense of loyalty to a company. You would still be making about £15k a year more than the average salary. It sounds stupid.
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Doing it as an annual salary for a normal person is not a fair comparison. I would stay at Spurs for 40k a week rather than leave for 80k somewhere else. However the difference between earning 40k or 80k per year is huge.
I do understand the likes of Bale leaving a club he is not that attached to so that he can go and win trophies though
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
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In practical terms, it isn't much though. What can you afford on £120k per week that you couldn't afford on £70k per week?
Even so, obviously any normal human being would accept a job offer paying double (or more, after endorsements etc) to do the same job.
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posted on 26/7/18
Same with most sports especially boxing.
posted on 26/7/18
comment by THudd. (U1029)
posted 4 seconds ago
Same with most sports especially boxing.
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Yeah boxers are the biggest mercenaries of all. Some of the will fight just about anyone if the money is right.
posted on 26/7/18
Hate how money dictates everyone now.
posted on 26/7/18
Modern players are only interested in ££££££££££££££££££££££££s, nothing else. Most have no pride, and would sell their own Grannie, if it meant they could earn a few quid more.
posted on 26/7/18
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posted on 26/7/18
There's life beyond football for god's sake. Footballers aged 35 are granddad's of the game but by no means old in actual life.
Maximising your wealth whilst playing football is frowned upon? I don't get why someone should lose on significant earnings just to stay at the club you love. Makes no sense.
The only reason you never saw it as much previously was because nobody paid them like today but give George Best £50k a week and he'd play for Torquay United.
posted on 26/7/18
Difficult to say how much you'd have your head turned by huge sums of money until you're in that position. Nothing specific to footballers though. Same in other sports, and other industries too. Well thought of actors will star in a movie they know and expect to be shiyte if the money is good enough etc. It's not all about the prestige.
posted on 26/7/18
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posted on 26/7/18
comment by Number-Eight (U9729)
posted 10 minutes ago
morning chaps
I don't get the hate that some footballers get for wanting to make as much money as possible.
I can imagine the support you felt for your boyhood team dissipates when you become a professional, because you don't view your fellow colleagues and opponents as superstars anymore, because you're one of them now
likewise if you're a professional football, you're playing for the love of football, but also to make as much money as possible doing so
I can, hand on heart, say that if I was playing for my boyhood team Tottenham and lets say for arguments sake Man City came in to buy me and improve on my wages by £20k - £30k... I'd happily go.
I am still playing football, I am still a pro and I'm earning more money
i don't get the hate they get because I can guarantee that 95% of us, if we turned pro and 2 clubs were in for us, both on the same level, you'd pick the one who's chucking more cash at you.
i don't see the shame in admitting that. We do it in our every day jobs
Obviously there are certain exceptions but on the whole... there you go
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I hear what your saying and a lot of people think like that.
But personally I am not driven by money and I can honestly say that if I was one of Spurs star players I would rather stay at the club I love than leave for more money. Even if Spurs paid me half what I could get elsewhere.
posted on 26/7/18
*you're
posted on 26/7/18
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
posted on 26/7/18
Joey Barton’s book clearly spells it out
Free transfer and he went to QPR, 50k a week with a huge signing on fee and stayed his whole term
Admittedly he’s caaak but he could have gone elsewhere to a better team
posted on 26/7/18
It's not a few quid though any more, the difference is huge. Could maybe stay at Spurs on say £100k a week as a top earner (I don't know what you actually pay), or be offered £250k a week at Madrid or something silly, along with the additional exposure and millions in advertising campaigns etc.
Hard to say what you'd do until you're in that position I think.
posted on 26/7/18
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing. When money becomes that easy to obtain, then it losses its value in my eyes. I'm sure players are influenced a lot by the agents and people around them to make as much money as they can in their short lived careers, but I myself think it's greed. 70k or 120k a week for 10 years will set you up for life, no matter which amount.
posted on 26/7/18
comment by EL-TORO (U13505)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing. When money becomes that easy to obtain, then it losses its value in my eyes. I'm sure players are influenced a lot by the agents and people around them to make as much money as they can in their short lived careers, but I myself think it's greed. 70k or 120k a week for 10 years will set you up for life, no matter which amount.
----------------------------------------------------------------------Agree with that, until you get into the real big money transfers and the difference is ramped up.
posted on 26/7/18
When it comes down to a player moving to a Madrid or Barca from Spurs or Liverpool eg, then it's a whole different story. I think Bale went to win stuff at Madrid, not just earn an extra 100k a week.
posted on 26/7/18
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
posted on 26/7/18
I can't think of any examples where a player left a club to a club at the same level, for 'not much more money'.
Has it happened?
posted on 26/7/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 3 minutes ago
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
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That's just your envy of their earnings Sandy which you can't seem to handle.
If you were on £80k a year would you be happy to take a pay cut and earn £40k a year instead because of some false sense of loyalty to a company. You would still be making about £15k a year more than the average salary. It sounds stupid.
Just because these figures are multiplied it doesn't mean they should be okay with taking a pay cut. Why not make an extra £5m a year and secure the future of many people around you.
Ridiculous argument.
And so is this business about I'd play for the club I love. That will only take you so far but at the end of the day your family and friends are more important than a fickle fan base that will turn on you for a string of poor performances. Your legacy as a player will not really change but your future and the wealth you pass down will.
posted on 26/7/18
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 9 minutes ago
Most footballers get paid more in a year than most normal people make in a lifetime of graft. So it is total bollox to say their life as a footballer is short, so they need to make lots of money before they are say 35. They can make more than enough by the time they are 24 to live a very comfortable lifestyle, out of the reach of nearly all of us. So they really they do not need to change clubs for a few quid more.
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This
posted on 26/7/18
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
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Would you like 3.64 million a year, or 6.2 million a year?
Meh, not fussed mate near enough the same anyway.
posted on 26/7/18
Yeah I’ll take 70k please
posted on 26/7/18
Not to be too rude... but... duh!
Look at City sides of 08/09 - or the likes of Ngolo Kante. Did they leave for money?
posted on 26/7/18
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 2 minutes ago
If you were on £80k a year would you be happy to take a pay cut and earn £40k a year instead because of some false sense of loyalty to a company. You would still be making about £15k a year more than the average salary. It sounds stupid.
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Doing it as an annual salary for a normal person is not a fair comparison. I would stay at Spurs for 40k a week rather than leave for 80k somewhere else. However the difference between earning 40k or 80k per year is huge.
I do understand the likes of Bale leaving a club he is not that attached to so that he can go and win trophies though
posted on 26/7/18
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
The issue I can see is that because it's so much money, the difference between 70k a week and 120k a week is nothing.
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sorry but
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In practical terms, it isn't much though. What can you afford on £120k per week that you couldn't afford on £70k per week?
Even so, obviously any normal human being would accept a job offer paying double (or more, after endorsements etc) to do the same job.
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