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posted on 19/9/11

Utd were just as wasteful, missed pen, hit post and crossbar, Berbatov cleared off the line, and numerous other chances to finish game off.

Chelsea came up against a very good keeper in De Gea

I notice the media are not saying anything about him since West Brom game. That's cos he's done everything spot on !!

posted on 19/9/11

We hit the post, the bar, missed a penalty and Berba missed a sitter!... just in the second half!!

posted on 19/9/11

Beat me by 2 seconds Captain!

The media haven't mentioned De Gea, but i can guarentee if he made a howler like Reina did yesterday thats all we'd hear about this week.

Pathetic

posted on 19/9/11

Good game though don't you think Albert ? i enjoyed it and never thought we'd drop points.

comment by Lambsy (U2861)

posted on 19/9/11

We won!!!

posted on 19/9/11

Beat me by 2 seconds Captain!

The media haven't mentioned De Gea, but i can guarentee if he made a howler like Reina did yesterday thats all we'd hear about this week.

Pathetic

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Yep i agree, they are sitting there waiting to pounce on him and will play the video's of his other couple of mistakes over and over.

Fact is he's handled everything brilliantly for a 20 year old, i'm amazed how good his distribution is and he's made 24 saves this season and is top keeper according to PL offical site.

Media care to mention that ???? no didn't think so.

posted on 19/9/11

Did you guys think Bosingwa should have gone for the penalty incident? When Dowd gave the pen i thought it was a natural sending off.

posted on 19/9/11

Did you guys think Bosingwa should have gone for the penalty incident? When Dowd gave the pen i thought it was a natural sending off.

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Possibly but it wasn't really as if he was clear through, there was other players about.

Cole should have gone and you can argue a pen was correct but they got away on technicality.

posted on 19/9/11

Don't know about you guys but basically everytime Nani and Young get the ball out wide i can see us scoring. We seem to be able to get at teams better this season.

Midfield was poor yesterday though, thought Fletcher was awful and Anderson struggled in there on his own with Fletcher being a passenger.

Cleverley needs to come back ASAP !

posted on 19/9/11

I personally didn't think the second one was a penalty. I actually agree that ball was out, and therefore it shouldn't be a penalty, However i thought the 1st one was nailed on sending off.

posted on 19/9/11

The lunge was incoming while ball in play, it was marginally out if play when contact made but it made Hernadez snatch at shot and should have been a pen and red card.

comment by Xiu (U6109)

posted on 19/9/11

It was a fantastic game form the neutral but the truth is that United scored 2 offside goals and 3 from a total of four first half chances. The reality is that Chelsea were much the better team in the first half and just better in the second half. It is more a freak scoreline than a justified one.

Don't get me wrong, lots of teams play well and unluckily draw 1-1 or lose 1-0 at the end, but the 3-0 half time score was so totally unbelievable and unmerited that it was somewhat perverse.

Chelsea were extremely unlucky yesterday and that is mirrored by Fergie's lack of praise for his team despite a win over a rival. It was a good win for United but it was a better performance by Chelsea, who merited more luck.

posted on 19/9/11

Nani was offside fractionally but he didn't score from result of being offside, 3 Chelsea players failed to tackle him and he scored from 25 yards.

He gained no advantage from being in offside postion, the goal was scored from his brilliance not him being offside and not a single Chelsea player called for offside.

Smalling yes he gained advantage but it was fractional and no daylight between attacker and defender.

posted on 19/9/11

If Chelsea thought nani was offside is that why they backed off and failed to tackle him from pretty much half way line in despite having every defender and midfielder between him and the goal ??

Offside ? no i don't think so.

comment by Xiu (U6109)

posted on 19/9/11

Captain_Positivity

I don't really care who won yesterday - I'm just telling it how it was. You can't just change the rules to suit you. The same way Cole should've been sent off, Nani and Smalling were offside, however marginal or technical it was, Offside is offside. Do you not think the game would have been different had Chelsea gone in just 1-0 down at half time? Goals change games.

posted on 19/9/11

god knows why Fergie played Fletcher against Chelsea. he was crap against Benfica and i knew he would be crap against Chelsea which he was, he almost did nothing the entire game. I never thought much of him to be honest, Carrick is a much better player than him and i dont rate Carrick much either.

Fletcher should stick to Carling Cup games and stuff!

posted on 19/9/11

and FA cup

posted on 19/9/11

I still haven't actually heard anyone referring to an actual rule that once the ball is out of play then there can be no freekick/penalty given for a foul.

It's definitely a grey area, yes the contact was after the ball had gone out (about one hundredth of a second after) but Hernandez's shot was taken with him aware of Cole lunging into his feet, had Cole not been there Hernandez would have likely scored, so the fact that Cole was slow in his tackle helped him, had he been quicker and actually near the ball then it would have been a penalty, strange.

Also I don't think Boswinga's was a red or even a yellow. It was a foul and penalty but he wasn't the last man as it was a pretty crowded penalty box.

posted on 19/9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znWT_K-EQj0

looks painful!

comment by Xiu (U6109)

posted on 19/9/11

manutd 1982

You're right about Bosingwa - just a desperate lunge to try and clear the ball there were defenders on the line.

As for Cole, a definite red cardoffence and probably a penalty. A foul is a foul wherever the ball is.

The ref was probably just feeling sorry for Chelsea by that time.

posted on 19/9/11

Yes Chelsea were unlucky with both offside goals however on both occasions Chelsea's marking and tackling was terrible.

I also feel the offside rule when a player is actually trying to run back towards his own goal is quite a harsh one, Nani didn't gain anything from being fractionally offside, as he went back to get the ball the Chelsea players were in fact given more time and space to get the ball off him but instead just stood off.

posted on 19/9/11

I dont' agree Chelsea were unlucky with nani goal as he didn't gain from being offside, he was near the half way line when starter his run at Chelsea defence and midfield. No one got near him and he slammed it in from 25 yards.

Smalling goal was different as he scored from result of being offside, but Nani's goal was different as the goal was scored 20 seconds after the "offside"

posted on 19/9/11

I just don't get the whole "Nani offside" thing, because it had no effect on the goal at all. He stepped back in field and had so much to do the offside played no part in the goal.

But as we were cheated out of second pen i'll let them have it.

posted on 19/9/11

They're unlucky because both goals were offside by the laws of football.

posted on 19/9/11

comment by manutd1982 (U6633) posted 6 minutes ago

I still haven't actually heard anyone referring to an actual rule that once the ball is out of play then there can be no freekick/penalty given for a foul.

It's definitely a grey area, yes the contact was after the ball had gone out (about one hundredth of a second after) but Hernandez's shot was taken with him aware of Cole lunging into his feet, had Cole not been there Hernandez would have likely scored, so the fact that Cole was slow in his tackle helped him, had he been quicker and actually near the ball then it would have been a penalty, strange.

Also I don't think Boswinga's was a red or even a yellow. It was a foul and penalty but he wasn't the last man
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There is no such rule as 'The last man'

It is purely a media driven myth

The rule is simply " preventing a clear goal scoring opportunity'

As for United being clinical. We were not. Rooney should have had a hat-trick if not 4 if he had shot rather than tee up Berba. Torres should have had a hat-trick too

All in all we had more clear cut chances than they did and desrved the win

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