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comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
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Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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I do not blame Pool fans for this.
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Makes sense
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Yeah, it does. I don’t know how old you are, but at that time, fans from all clubs were notorious for their behaviour. Ours were no different to most others, it’s just that the consequences of one particular incident were far more tragic.
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They're not without blame then?
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Of course they’re not. I think that Flash, who isn’t a Liverpool fan, is trying to say that we weren’t the sole reason clubs got banned. Our incident was just the final straw.
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Sure was.
He should probably blame Pool fans.
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He’s clearly less tribal, and more mature than you 👍
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Why does that make me immature?
Cos I think, and you agree with me, that Pool fans should shoulder blame?
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 37 seconds ago
Why does that make me immature?
Cos I think, and you agree with me, that Pool fans should shoulder blame?
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Some of the blame. I may be reading your posts wrong, but it’s coming across that you think it’s all our fault??? I don’t think Flash is trying to say that Liverpool fans are blameless, that would be wrong.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 16 minutes ago
Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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I do not blame Pool fans for this.
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Makes sense
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Yeah, it does. I don’t know how old you are, but at that time, fans from all clubs were notorious for their behaviour. Ours were no different to most others, it’s just that the consequences of one particular incident were far more tragic.
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They're not without blame then?
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Of course they’re not. I think that Flash, who isn’t a Liverpool fan, is trying to say that we weren’t the sole reason clubs got banned. Our incident was just the final straw.
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That is my point.
I remember my French Teacher told us of a time he went to watch Leeds in France not sure if it was a competitive game or friendly.
He said he was so ashamed of the Leed fans behaviour that day he started speaking french in his best regional accent he could do.
It wasn't just Pool fans. It's just a silly stick we've come to beat em with over the years.
My own team's fans don't have a celebrated history. It's just we never got to show our stupidity on the european stage back then.
Not at all. Spurs fans were the first to bring English hooliganism to Europe, I believe. I was querying why he was letting Liverpool fans off the hook as that's how it read to me.
Was born in the early 90s so not 100% sure what the op refers to.
One thing that hasn’t been said. IMO, when you see the events leading up to the final incident, it could have been fans from any team and the result would likely have been the same. It was happening everywhere, clashes in stadiums. This stadium just happened to be in a terrible state of repair..
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 1 minute ago
Not at all. Spurs fans were the first to bring English hooliganism to Europe, I believe. I was querying why he was letting Liverpool fans off the hook as that's how it read to me.
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Crossed wires all round 👍
comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 7 minutes ago
GOOGLE IT
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What are we googling now?
But in answer to my OP, for which i really should've known better..................
Do you think we'd have had more success in Europe?
I'd like to think Brian Clough's Forest might have stayed around the top longer as a beneficiary of getting in to Europe.
And it would have been nice in spite of them being 'less fashionable' clubs to have seen Coventry, Oxford Utd, Luton and Wimbledon get their night out in Europe. They won competitions that would have earned them a place and we'll never know how that might have benefitted them even though there wasn't a tenth of the money there is now.
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GOOGLE IT
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What are we googling now?
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the subject
Do you think we'd have had more success in Europe?
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I'd think so. The quality and competition in European football wasn't so fierce as it is now. Also if you look at the period of the ban you have the likes of Steau Bucharest, PSV and Porto winning the European cup. I'd like to think the English clubs would have been up there.
But who knows? It's all conjecture. Besides, one nations loss is another gain. The ban seemed to help the issue of hooliganism in this country.
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comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 52 seconds ago
Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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Hush dangerdog.
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Ah it's not him is it
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comment by der kloppites (U13373)
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GOOGLE IT
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the subject
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Why? I'm aware of the subject matter.
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Also if you look at the period of the ban you have the likes of Steau Bucharest, PSV and Porto winning the European cup. I'd like to think the English clubs would have been up there.
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They were terrific sides to be fair.
Bosman killed clubs like them (maybe not Porto, but you get my point).
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
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What?
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
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What?
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...don't know your English Football history?
Hibs were the first Scottish club to play in Europe, in the inaugural European Cup competition. They finished fifth the season before but Aberdeen didn't want to play under floodlights.
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comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
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posted 17 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 16 minutes ago
Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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I do not blame Pool fans for this.
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Makes sense
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Yeah, it does. I don’t know how old you are, but at that time, fans from all clubs were notorious for their behaviour. Ours were no different to most others, it’s just that the consequences of one particular incident were far more tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not without blame then?
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Of course they’re not. I think that Flash, who isn’t a Liverpool fan, is trying to say that we weren’t the sole reason clubs got banned. Our incident was just the final straw.
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Sure was.
He should probably blame Pool fans.
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He’s clearly less tribal, and more mature than you 👍
posted on 24/9/18
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posted on 24/9/18
Why does that make me immature?
Cos I think, and you agree with me, that Pool fans should shoulder blame?
posted on 24/9/18
GOOGLE IT
posted on 24/9/18
What?
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 37 seconds ago
Why does that make me immature?
Cos I think, and you agree with me, that Pool fans should shoulder blame?
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Some of the blame. I may be reading your posts wrong, but it’s coming across that you think it’s all our fault??? I don’t think Flash is trying to say that Liverpool fans are blameless, that would be wrong.
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Terminator1 (U1863)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by The Noble Lord Flash (U8334)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 16 minutes ago
Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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I do not blame Pool fans for this.
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Makes sense
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Yeah, it does. I don’t know how old you are, but at that time, fans from all clubs were notorious for their behaviour. Ours were no different to most others, it’s just that the consequences of one particular incident were far more tragic.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They're not without blame then?
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Of course they’re not. I think that Flash, who isn’t a Liverpool fan, is trying to say that we weren’t the sole reason clubs got banned. Our incident was just the final straw.
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That is my point.
I remember my French Teacher told us of a time he went to watch Leeds in France not sure if it was a competitive game or friendly.
He said he was so ashamed of the Leed fans behaviour that day he started speaking french in his best regional accent he could do.
It wasn't just Pool fans. It's just a silly stick we've come to beat em with over the years.
My own team's fans don't have a celebrated history. It's just we never got to show our stupidity on the european stage back then.
posted on 24/9/18
Not at all. Spurs fans were the first to bring English hooliganism to Europe, I believe. I was querying why he was letting Liverpool fans off the hook as that's how it read to me.
posted on 24/9/18
Was born in the early 90s so not 100% sure what the op refers to.
posted on 24/9/18
One thing that hasn’t been said. IMO, when you see the events leading up to the final incident, it could have been fans from any team and the result would likely have been the same. It was happening everywhere, clashes in stadiums. This stadium just happened to be in a terrible state of repair..
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 1 minute ago
Not at all. Spurs fans were the first to bring English hooliganism to Europe, I believe. I was querying why he was letting Liverpool fans off the hook as that's how it read to me.
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Crossed wires all round 👍
posted on 24/9/18
comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 7 minutes ago
GOOGLE IT
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What are we googling now?
posted on 24/9/18
But in answer to my OP, for which i really should've known better..................
Do you think we'd have had more success in Europe?
I'd like to think Brian Clough's Forest might have stayed around the top longer as a beneficiary of getting in to Europe.
And it would have been nice in spite of them being 'less fashionable' clubs to have seen Coventry, Oxford Utd, Luton and Wimbledon get their night out in Europe. They won competitions that would have earned them a place and we'll never know how that might have benefitted them even though there wasn't a tenth of the money there is now.
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 7 minutes ago
GOOGLE IT
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What are we googling now?
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the subject
posted on 24/9/18
Do you think we'd have had more success in Europe?
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I'd think so. The quality and competition in European football wasn't so fierce as it is now. Also if you look at the period of the ban you have the likes of Steau Bucharest, PSV and Porto winning the European cup. I'd like to think the English clubs would have been up there.
But who knows? It's all conjecture. Besides, one nations loss is another gain. The ban seemed to help the issue of hooliganism in this country.
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 12 minutes ago
comment by SilvaLining (U21951)
posted 52 seconds ago
Pardon my ignorance, for what reason were the English club banned?
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Hush dangerdog.
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Ah it's not him is it
posted on 24/9/18
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comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 34 minutes ago
comment by Your Honour (U17603)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by der kloppites (U13373)
posted 7 minutes ago
GOOGLE IT
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What are we googling now?
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the subject
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Why? I'm aware of the subject matter.
posted on 24/9/18
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posted on 24/9/18
Also if you look at the period of the ban you have the likes of Steau Bucharest, PSV and Porto winning the European cup. I'd like to think the English clubs would have been up there.
_______________________________
They were terrific sides to be fair.
Bosman killed clubs like them (maybe not Porto, but you get my point).
posted on 24/9/18
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
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What?
posted on 24/9/18
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
Great article.
I often wonder what would have been had Chelsea not been basically denied entry into Europe as the first English team to compete back in 1955. Could have been a whole different story. We could have been Real Madrid
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What?
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...don't know your English Football history?
posted on 24/9/18
Hibs were the first Scottish club to play in Europe, in the inaugural European Cup competition. They finished fifth the season before but Aberdeen didn't want to play under floodlights.
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