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comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah it was a one-off not a default position.

When we played West Ham in 86 we lost 4-0 at the Bridge on Easter Monday after losing 6-0 to QPR on the Saturday and we had to go to Upton Park 2 weeks later and people thought we'd get a serious hiding but we went there and won 2-1 which facked them for the title. Football doesn't work like that and Spurs have already lost 3 times this season so their not quite as good as you think they are despite the fact that they were far too good for us on Saturday.
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2 of the 3 losses were to Liverpool and Man City and the other to a decent and in form Watford side at the time

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
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Giroud has hardly been any good in the league

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 7 seconds ago
What different players would you have played that would have made a difference
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Pele, Bobby Moore, George Best, Messi
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Wouldn’t have made a difference though Brum lol
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A little flipant maybe

But to say different players wouldn't make a difference is a bit naive.

We will never know but if Ampadu had played in place of Luiz, Giroud in place of Morata, RLC in place of Kovacic, or CHO for Willian, then who knows what would have happened!
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All very easy to say after the game but Spurs have been better than us by a big margin in the last two games we've played.

Ultimately, we're so reliant on Hazard going forward and if he has a quiet game it's usually a difficult game.
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Really?

We've known for ages that Luiz is erratic and always liable to mistakes, we've known for ages that Morata would be offside most of the game and probably miss any decent chance that fell to him.

Two out of 11 players that don't carry full confidence in a game of that magnitude will make a difference!

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
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Giroud has hardly been any good in the league
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God your full of cliches.

He’s been pretty decent and hardly started. Didn’t he have 4 assists in 4 games? All round play he’s worlds apart from morata. Away from home you need someone to relieve pressure and hold the ball up. He’ does that

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
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Giroud has hardly been any good in the league
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God your full of cliches.

He’s been pretty decent and hardly started. Didn’t he have 4 assists in 4 games? All round play he’s worlds apart from morata. Away from home you need someone to relieve pressure and hold the ball up. He’ does that
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You also pay a striker to score goals, he got his 1st the other day which was a consolation.

posted on 29/11/18

I honestly think you are going to be disappointed if you think changing Morata for Giroud will make any difference.

Both are similar in terms of quality.

posted on 29/11/18

Giroud, Pedro and Barkley should have all started Saturday, that's down to manager not Spurs.

He showed a complete lack of experience of the intensity of a Derby by not picking an English player like Barkley rather than a Real Madrid show pony like Kovacic, but it's easier for us to be wiser after the event.

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
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Giroud has hardly been any good in the league
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I think you're absolutely correct on that - but he still provides a more robust presence on his feet than Morata sat on his ar$e with his hands stretched in the air!

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 7 seconds ago
What different players would you have played that would have made a difference
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Pele, Bobby Moore, George Best, Messi
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn’t have made a difference though Brum lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A little flipant maybe

But to say different players wouldn't make a difference is a bit naive.

We will never know but if Ampadu had played in place of Luiz, Giroud in place of Morata, RLC in place of Kovacic, or CHO for Willian, then who knows what would have happened!
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All very easy to say after the game but Spurs have been better than us by a big margin in the last two games we've played.

Ultimately, we're so reliant on Hazard going forward and if he has a quiet game it's usually a difficult game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Really?

We've known for ages that Luiz is erratic and always liable to mistakes, we've known for ages that Morata would be offside most of the game and probably miss any decent chance that fell to him.

Two out of 11 players that don't carry full confidence in a game of that magnitude will make a difference!
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The replacement for Luiz are not much better, Cahill is terrible and Christensen isn't so great and makes errors

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Giroud has hardly been any good in the league
----------------------------------------------------------------------
God your full of cliches.

He’s been pretty decent and hardly started. Didn’t he have 4 assists in 4 games? All round play he’s worlds apart from morata. Away from home you need someone to relieve pressure and hold the ball up. He’ does that
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You also pay a striker to score goals, he got his 1st the other day which was a consolation.
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Mean while we have an out on loan striker banging in 4 goals in a game for Vanilla - food for thought!

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 seconds ago
Exactly so if we played Pedro and giroud we wouldn’t be so reliable on him.
No point comparing to last year anyway completely different team
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Giroud has hardly been any good in the league
----------------------------------------------------------------------

I think you're absolutely correct on that - but he still provides a more robust presence on his feet than Morata sat on his ar$e with his hands stretched in the air!
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Agreed, but the defeat to Spurs the blame lies more with the performance of the midfield and defence

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 7 seconds ago
What different players would you have played that would have made a difference
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pele, Bobby Moore, George Best, Messi
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn’t have made a difference though Brum lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A little flipant maybe

But to say different players wouldn't make a difference is a bit naive.

We will never know but if Ampadu had played in place of Luiz, Giroud in place of Morata, RLC in place of Kovacic, or CHO for Willian, then who knows what would have happened!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All very easy to say after the game but Spurs have been better than us by a big margin in the last two games we've played.

Ultimately, we're so reliant on Hazard going forward and if he has a quiet game it's usually a difficult game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Really?

We've known for ages that Luiz is erratic and always liable to mistakes, we've known for ages that Morata would be offside most of the game and probably miss any decent chance that fell to him.

Two out of 11 players that don't carry full confidence in a game of that magnitude will make a difference!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The replacement for Luiz are not much better, Cahill is terrible and Christensen isn't so great and makes errors
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ampadu looks really assured though!

He's only a youth player and not one of the 'experienced' in crowd though, so will be overlooked every time!

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted about a minute ago
Giroud, Pedro and Barkley should have all started Saturday, that's down to manager not Spurs.

He showed a complete lack of experience of the intensity of a Derby by not picking an English player like Barkley rather than a Real Madrid show pony like Kovacic, but it's easier for us to be wiser after the event.
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I think it was more of a problem with our best players playing crap.

Hazard, Kante, Jorginho, Azpi and Alonso were seriously bad by their standards.

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 7 seconds ago
What different players would you have played that would have made a difference
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pele, Bobby Moore, George Best, Messi
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn’t have made a difference though Brum lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A little flipant maybe

But to say different players wouldn't make a difference is a bit naive.

We will never know but if Ampadu had played in place of Luiz, Giroud in place of Morata, RLC in place of Kovacic, or CHO for Willian, then who knows what would have happened!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All very easy to say after the game but Spurs have been better than us by a big margin in the last two games we've played.

Ultimately, we're so reliant on Hazard going forward and if he has a quiet game it's usually a difficult game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Really?

We've known for ages that Luiz is erratic and always liable to mistakes, we've known for ages that Morata would be offside most of the game and probably miss any decent chance that fell to him.

Two out of 11 players that don't carry full confidence in a game of that magnitude will make a difference!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The replacement for Luiz are not much better, Cahill is terrible and Christensen isn't so great and makes errors
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ampadu looks really assured though!

He's only a youth player and not one of the 'experienced' in crowd though, so will be overlooked every time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, Ampadu looks a great prospect but to throw him in a league game vs Spurs when he hasn't played all season, there would have been eyebrows raised

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Chelsea_since_summer_1969 ✯ (U1561)
posted 3 minutes ago
Yeah it was a one-off not a default position.

When we played West Ham in 86 we lost 4-0 at the Bridge on Easter Monday after losing 6-0 to QPR on the Saturday and we had to go to Upton Park 2 weeks later and people thought we'd get a serious hiding but we went there and won 2-1 which facked them for the title. Football doesn't work like that and Spurs have already lost 3 times this season so their not quite as good as you think they are despite the fact that they were far too good for us on Saturday.
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2 of the 3 losses were to Liverpool and Man City and the other to a decent and in form Watford side at the time
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So what? if you want to be fearful before we play them again then you crack on but don't expect the rest of us to be scared because we've had far more good days than bad against these over the past couple of years with both Clubs having the same teams.

Yes they are good but they do not scare me like Man City do end of.

comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 29/11/18

Obviously they're not as fearful as City who spend millions and have got an amazing squad and manager.

Spurs are a good side too, very consistent in the league and their 1st team is very strong and have got a good manager who's been working with the team for a long time.

posted on 29/11/18

I'll repeat again. We have had far more good days than bad against this Spurs team so why am I supposed to fret about them?

Agreed Saturday could have been far worse and I am not usually relieved for full time when we have lost but do you seriously think that it is going to go like that every time we play them?

posted on 29/11/18

comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Tablighi Jamaat (U15973)
posted 7 seconds ago
What different players would you have played that would have made a difference
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Pele, Bobby Moore, George Best, Messi
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wouldn’t have made a difference though Brum lol
----------------------------------------------------------------------

A little flipant maybe

But to say different players wouldn't make a difference is a bit naive.

We will never know but if Ampadu had played in place of Luiz, Giroud in place of Morata, RLC in place of Kovacic, or CHO for Willian, then who knows what would have happened!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
All very easy to say after the game but Spurs have been better than us by a big margin in the last two games we've played.

Ultimately, we're so reliant on Hazard going forward and if he has a quiet game it's usually a difficult game.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Really?

We've known for ages that Luiz is erratic and always liable to mistakes, we've known for ages that Morata would be offside most of the game and probably miss any decent chance that fell to him.

Two out of 11 players that don't carry full confidence in a game of that magnitude will make a difference!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The replacement for Luiz are not much better, Cahill is terrible and Christensen isn't so great and makes errors
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Ampadu looks really assured though!

He's only a youth player and not one of the 'experienced' in crowd though, so will be overlooked every time!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree, Ampadu looks a great prospect but to throw him in a league game vs Spurs when he hasn't played all season, there would have been eyebrows raised
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Not as high as my eyebrow as Son walzed past a hapless Luiz, I can tell you!

comment by Verse (U20361)

posted on 29/11/18

Today Chelsea team players played great football.I am wondering if the same side at Saturday v Spurs as today would have a produced a different result on the weekend.

posted on 29/11/18

Brummie and Summer.

Good result tonight!

Did Sarri just say Kante could not play defensive midfield, after he won the league twice playing there, with us and the Foxes?

posted on 29/11/18

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comment by T.J (U15973)

posted on 30/11/18

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 9 hours, 24 minutes ago
That was in a two-man midfield, in a counter-attacking system

The DM position under Sarri is for the regista, the playmaker. Not Kante's forte
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I think Sarri mentioned that off the ball he wants Kante to be next to Jorginho which didn't happen very often against Spurs as he was too busy on the right wing

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