comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yeah and now you're saying the exact same thing that you mocked him for
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How am I exactly?
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Because you are saying that Chelsea deserved to win last night despite losing. Which was exactly what Jenas said about Spurs when we lost to you 4-2 a couple years back. Which Chelsea fans ridiculed him for
Haven’t seen Brummie say they deserved to win. He said they were the better team, which they were, but that’s not the same thing.
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yeah and now you're saying the exact same thing that you mocked him for
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How am I exactly?
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Because you are saying that Chelsea deserved to win last night despite losing. Which was exactly what Jenas said about Spurs when we lost to you 4-2 a couple years back. Which Chelsea fans ridiculed him for
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Ok Mr Pedantic, point out where I said we DESERVED to win!
Saying you were the better team implies you think you deserved to win. If you think you didn't deserve to win then fine. I'm sure you won't admit to yourself that you deserved the loss tho
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 4 minutes ago
Saying you were the better team implies you think you deserved to win. If you think you didn't deserve to win then fine. I'm sure you won't admit to yourself that you deserved the loss tho
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In your own little world they might imply the same but in the real world out here they are completely different.
We didn't deserve to win because we can't achieve the main object of the game - put the ball in the back of the net.
We were however the better team which most of your fans appear to agree with.
How can you be the better team and not deserve to win? So what you're saying is that deserving to win doesn't exist, as whoever won the game, no matter how it played out, deserved to win
You can still be the better team and not deserve to win.
better1
/ˈbɛtə/
adjective
1. 1.
more desirable, satisfactory, or effective.
"we're hoping for better weather tomorrow"
synonyms: superior, finer, of higher quality, greater, in a different class, one step ahead;
deserved
/dɪˈzəːvd/Submit
adjective
rightfully earned because of something done or qualities shown; merited.
"a deserved standing ovation"
Maybe you could get the Oxford English dictionary to amalgamate the meaning and merge the two words - if successful we can discuss further!
Right so you've confirmed that you think that whoever wins a game of football deserved to win that game of football, thanks
Obviously your your mind works a little differently to the rest of us then!
I appreciate you're trying to save face but it just ain't working pal.
Got nothing to say against my argument then. ad hominem
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 56 minutes ago
Got nothing to say against my argument then. ad hominem
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You don't have an argument!
Right, let's keep this simple, a yes or no answer will suffice
Is it the case that every time a team wins a football match, they deserved to win said football match?
You’re struggling a bit here, Analog.
I don't think so, maybe you could answer the question for him?
You are. You’ve tried to attribute points made by others to him to try and make him look contradictory and hypocritical. Now you’re trying to drag it down a semantic route to save face, after having been proven wrong.
And no a team doesn’t deserve to win a football match every time they win a football match.
Just as the team that is better doesn’t always deserve to win. Football isn’t binary, there are three outcomes for a team.
Ok so in what circumstance would a team who has lost a match have deserved to win it, if it wasn't because they were the better team?
Jeez, I never thought this would become such an issue.
Right lets give this one last shot, if it still doesn't compute then I'm afraid you'll just have to live with it.
I said we were the better team because on the night we were, I haven't seen many $purs fans try disputing that. It wasn't hard because $purs were pretty poor on the night compared to their recent form.
I said we were unlucky to lose because the deciding goal was a highly controversial one.
Why do I think we didn't deserve to win? Because in 90 minutes of football despite having the lions share of possession we created just one worthwhile chance, which Christensen contrived to put wide, that apart we never threatened the $purs goal.
Defending is a part of the game and $purs defended like trojans in preventing us from scoring, so I'm sure you'd have felt aggrieved not to have won after taking the lead after being so dominant in your own area.
If you combine the fact that we were so toothless in the final 3rd whilst you defended with such authority, then I think I'm qualified in saying we didn't really deserve to win it.
Had we cut your defence to shreds on numerous occasions but your keeper had played a blinder and produced a string of world class saves to deny us then I would probably say we were unlucky and deserved to win it.
If you don't get it I think you must be, being deliberately obtuse and arguing for the sake of it or not as clever as I give you credit for.
Either way I'm not going to waste my time explaining myself again.
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Unlucky tonight!
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posted on 9/1/19
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yeah and now you're saying the exact same thing that you mocked him for
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How am I exactly?
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Because you are saying that Chelsea deserved to win last night despite losing. Which was exactly what Jenas said about Spurs when we lost to you 4-2 a couple years back. Which Chelsea fans ridiculed him for
posted on 9/1/19
Haven’t seen Brummie say they deserved to win. He said they were the better team, which they were, but that’s not the same thing.
posted on 9/1/19
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by BrummieBlue! (U3487)
posted 1 hour, 53 minutes ago
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 2 hours, 20 minutes ago
Yeah and now you're saying the exact same thing that you mocked him for
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How am I exactly?
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Because you are saying that Chelsea deserved to win last night despite losing. Which was exactly what Jenas said about Spurs when we lost to you 4-2 a couple years back. Which Chelsea fans ridiculed him for
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Ok Mr Pedantic, point out where I said we DESERVED to win!
posted on 9/1/19
Saying you were the better team implies you think you deserved to win. If you think you didn't deserve to win then fine. I'm sure you won't admit to yourself that you deserved the loss tho
posted on 9/1/19
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 4 minutes ago
Saying you were the better team implies you think you deserved to win. If you think you didn't deserve to win then fine. I'm sure you won't admit to yourself that you deserved the loss tho
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In your own little world they might imply the same but in the real world out here they are completely different.
We didn't deserve to win because we can't achieve the main object of the game - put the ball in the back of the net.
We were however the better team which most of your fans appear to agree with.
posted on 9/1/19
How can you be the better team and not deserve to win? So what you're saying is that deserving to win doesn't exist, as whoever won the game, no matter how it played out, deserved to win
posted on 9/1/19
You can still be the better team and not deserve to win.
posted on 9/1/19
better1
/ˈbɛtə/
adjective
1. 1.
more desirable, satisfactory, or effective.
"we're hoping for better weather tomorrow"
synonyms: superior, finer, of higher quality, greater, in a different class, one step ahead;
deserved
/dɪˈzəːvd/Submit
adjective
rightfully earned because of something done or qualities shown; merited.
"a deserved standing ovation"
Maybe you could get the Oxford English dictionary to amalgamate the meaning and merge the two words - if successful we can discuss further!
posted on 9/1/19
Right so you've confirmed that you think that whoever wins a game of football deserved to win that game of football, thanks
posted on 9/1/19
Obviously your your mind works a little differently to the rest of us then!
I appreciate you're trying to save face but it just ain't working pal.
posted on 9/1/19
Got nothing to say against my argument then. ad hominem
posted on 9/1/19
comment by Analog (U17200)
posted 56 minutes ago
Got nothing to say against my argument then. ad hominem
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You don't have an argument!
posted on 9/1/19
Right, let's keep this simple, a yes or no answer will suffice
Is it the case that every time a team wins a football match, they deserved to win said football match?
posted on 9/1/19
You’re struggling a bit here, Analog.
posted on 10/1/19
I don't think so, maybe you could answer the question for him?
posted on 10/1/19
You are. You’ve tried to attribute points made by others to him to try and make him look contradictory and hypocritical. Now you’re trying to drag it down a semantic route to save face, after having been proven wrong.
And no a team doesn’t deserve to win a football match every time they win a football match.
Just as the team that is better doesn’t always deserve to win. Football isn’t binary, there are three outcomes for a team.
posted on 10/1/19
Ok so in what circumstance would a team who has lost a match have deserved to win it, if it wasn't because they were the better team?
posted on 10/1/19
Jeez, I never thought this would become such an issue.
Right lets give this one last shot, if it still doesn't compute then I'm afraid you'll just have to live with it.
I said we were the better team because on the night we were, I haven't seen many $purs fans try disputing that. It wasn't hard because $purs were pretty poor on the night compared to their recent form.
I said we were unlucky to lose because the deciding goal was a highly controversial one.
Why do I think we didn't deserve to win? Because in 90 minutes of football despite having the lions share of possession we created just one worthwhile chance, which Christensen contrived to put wide, that apart we never threatened the $purs goal.
Defending is a part of the game and $purs defended like trojans in preventing us from scoring, so I'm sure you'd have felt aggrieved not to have won after taking the lead after being so dominant in your own area.
If you combine the fact that we were so toothless in the final 3rd whilst you defended with such authority, then I think I'm qualified in saying we didn't really deserve to win it.
Had we cut your defence to shreds on numerous occasions but your keeper had played a blinder and produced a string of world class saves to deny us then I would probably say we were unlucky and deserved to win it.
If you don't get it I think you must be, being deliberately obtuse and arguing for the sake of it or not as clever as I give you credit for.
Either way I'm not going to waste my time explaining myself again.
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