I guess last nights aberration will be soon forgotten when we are drawn at home to Doncaster in the quarter finals of the FA Cup

We had too many players whose level of ability is such that when put under pressure they mis-control or are panicked into giving the ball away. Having even one player in midfield who can put his foot on it for a second or two buys the team a bit of breathing space to get their body shape right to receive it and then they all start looking like better players.

Poor game last night, I went round to my mates to watch the game on the red button. Wish I had stayed at home...

comment by JorvikRammer, (U1369)
posted 13 minutes ago
Poor game last night, I went round to my mates to watch the game on the red button. Wish I had stayed at home...
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Do you think Lampard gets off lightly after games like last night just because of who he is?

I think he should have admitted that the performance last night was in part down to his team selection. You don't control midfield by picking players who struggle to pass water never mind a football.

Shouldn't you be training for something or other?

I am Scouse but rest is important when training.

I was away and missed everything bar the score. What did King do to earn his place ? How good, effective, match fit was he?

King was alright, no better no worse. He wasn't really much of an upgrade on George Evans last night but when he gets up to speed I expect he will improve.

Thanks for that Vidal.

comment by JorvikRammer, (U1369)
posted about 4 hours ago
Poor game last night, I went round to my mates to watch the game on the red button. Wish I had stayed at home...
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Why ? Did he run out of beer ?

comment by lastapostleofvidal (U1491)
posted about an hour ago
King was alright, no better no worse. He wasn't really much of an upgrade on George Evans last night but when he gets up to speed I expect he will improve.
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Exactly as I see it Vidal.
In a game which was notably low on skill and lacking in quality, I don't think King performed any better than BJ. They were both equally responsible for that being the outcome. However, the 'more skilled players' hardly contributed a great deal, either.

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted about 6 hours ago

comment by JorvikRammer, (U1369)
posted 13 minutes ago
Poor game last night, I went round to my mates to watch the game on the red button. Wish I had stayed at home...
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Do you think Lampard gets off lightly after games like last night just because of who he is?

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No Scouse, I think it's more to do with him being a rookie manager

Well, that is all a bit worrying. We were very poor in midfield v Preston - much better v Hull and it seems poor v Ipswich.

It seems we just cannot prevent our players from being complacent v age lesser teams.

comment by 🏁AnglianRam 🏁 (U17428)
posted about 3 hours ago

comment by JorvikRammer, (U1369)
posted about 4 hours ago
Poor game last night, I went round to my mates to watch the game on the red button. Wish I had stayed at home...
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Why ? Did he run out of beer ?

I was dry last night mate

comment by Let Me inRamdini (U21882)
posted about an hour ago
Well, that is all a bit worrying. We were very poor in midfield v Preston - much better v Hull and it seems poor v Ipswich.

It seems we just cannot prevent our players from being complacent v age lesser teams.
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Don't think it was complacency. Just not good enough on the night.
Perhaps the missing link in the Preston & Ipswich games was Huddz ?

Id hate to think it was just cos Huddz was missing we didn't win last night. Lamps made 3 changes. Zoon out was no surprise to me. Bryson for King I can understand with King Cup tied. Bryson's game at his age can not do 3 games in a week...especially when its weds night /Sat lunchtime. BJ over Huddz is the only 1 questionable. And I thought BJ was our best midfield player on the night. Bring on Brighton!!!

And I thought I was in a 'minority of one', Backo
Another change was having Holmes wide on the right. I thought he had a pretty good game and was one of the positives, but could have been more effective in Wilson's position

BJ may have been our best midfielder but he was dire, seriously. Doesn’t say much for the rest of ‘em, sadly.

Was it a case of the formation too?

With 2 holding midfielders we had less options for an out-ball further up the pitch and the ball kept coming back. TL, DH and HW aren't the most physical of players. Think we tried to change it 2nd half with King being the holding and BJ pushing on more only he didn't really.

I'm not sure we've quite worked out how to beat the press without Huddz and maybe this was what Frank was trying to work on.

The inclusion of BJ surprised a few, myself included, on the plus side, despite it not quite working last night (we didn't lose), it maybe sends a message to the fringe squad players be ready, put a shift in and show some form in training and you will play.

Maybe Lamps has higher expectations of the rest of the team too and reasonably expects us to be able to play football with or without the Huddz. If so I think we still need to solve the how to beat the physical pressing sides in the absence of the huddled stone conundrum.

I actually thought TL showed a few glimpses last night too but then I also thought Billy Davies was the next Brian Clough at one point.

PS

I would quite like to see a fit and firing

..................Huddz...................
.......King.................Mount......

trio at some point.