comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 40 seconds ago
But you assume your first point as fact when it's an assumption. You don't know people were outraged or not. You then use that assumption to jump to your second.
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I literally used the word assumption, so clearly I'm well aware it's an assumption and not a fact.

I believe they're logical opinions and assumptions.

Here's a handy tip: if you actually read the words I've written, you may come closer to understanding my point.

comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 2 hours, 13 minutes ago
Mass murder by a rightwing extremist is rarely regarded as terrorism in the west.
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Other than all outlets in regards to this incident

I literally have been saying you have been making assumptions from the start. Are you an idiot? Or do you not read what people are saying. Thank you for at least telling me that what I have been saying is true.

comment by Lexington 125.2 (U8879)
posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 28 minutes ago
Also, it was both racially and politically motivated.
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Doesn't necessarily make it terrorism. I think we just to use that term far too often, hugely diluting what it means.
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If the Manchester bombing was classed as terrorism, then why wouldn’t this be?
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Who was ultimately responsible for that?
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Are you suggesting that it wasn’t terrorism?
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No I asked a simple genuine question.
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And in doing so implied that it wasn’t a terror attack.
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My opinion implied nothing, why is everybody so facking angry on this forum?

If a terror organisation was resposible for this, then it was terrorism, if it was one lone wolf individual then I'd personally class it as mass murder.

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 minute ago
I literally have been saying you have been making assumptions from the start. Are you an idiot? Or do you not read what people are saying. Thank you for at least telling me that what I have been saying is true.
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Well given that I don't know what people are thinking, obviously there's an element of assumption, you absolute muppet.

So well done for telling everyone that if they make a judgement about why someone has done something, it's an opinion and not a fact.

We had no idea.

Terrorism is when you use violence to try and change things politically though, which is what this guy was clearly trying to do as he wanted a race war/kick Muslims out of the west.

Just because he was a lone wolf doesn't mean it's not terrorism.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 2 minutes ago
Terrorism is when you use violence to try and change things politically though, which is what this guy was clearly trying to do as he wanted a race war/kick Muslims out of the west.

Just because he was a lone wolf doesn't mean it's not terrorism.
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Just not sure I agree with that. Not that it really matters how we decide to define it.

comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 13 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 28 minutes ago
Also, it was both racially and politically motivated.
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Doesn't necessarily make it terrorism. I think we just to use that term far too often, hugely diluting what it means.
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If the Manchester bombing was classed as terrorism, then why wouldn’t this be?
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Who was ultimately responsible for that?
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Are you suggesting that it wasn’t terrorism?
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No I asked a simple genuine question.
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And in doing so implied that it wasn’t a terror attack.
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My opinion implied nothing, why is everybody so facking angry on this forum?

If a terror organisation was resposible for this, then it was terrorism, if it was one lone wolf individual then I'd personally class it as mass murder.
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You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.

This guy is a member of a right wing movement group so it was a terror act.

Who says the guys who did the Paris and London bombing were members of a terror group.
The only who says those things are western media, people and intelligence. Those are not objective.

The FA and PL have clearly dropped the ball, excuse the pun, on this.

The criticism at their response is warranted and any outrage is understandable

I don’t see the hypocrisy really. A lot of those who died in the French attacks were probably Muslims, too. Also factor in France are a neighboring country and we played them like 3 days after the attacks took place, obviously there was going to be a lot of tributes to the French over that period.

That being said there still should have been a minutes silence.

hmm while im not against a minute silence why only for when it happens in a western style country, we dont do minute silence when a middle eastern market place gets bombed

such as this

https://www.france24.com/en/20181123-pakistan-dozens-killed-bomb-kalaya-market-orakzai-tribal-district

comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 5 minutes ago
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posted 9 minutes ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
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comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 28 minutes ago
Also, it was both racially and politically motivated.
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Doesn't necessarily make it terrorism. I think we just to use that term far too often, hugely diluting what it means.
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If the Manchester bombing was classed as terrorism, then why wouldn’t this be?
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Who was ultimately responsible for that?
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Are you suggesting that it wasn’t terrorism?
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No I asked a simple genuine question.
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And in doing so implied that it wasn’t a terror attack.
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My opinion implied nothing, why is everybody so facking angry on this forum?

If a terror organisation was resposible for this, then it was terrorism, if it was one lone wolf individual then I'd personally class it as mass murder.
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You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.

This guy is a member of a right wing movement group so it was a terror act.

Who says the guys who did the Paris and London bombing were members of a terror group.
The only who says those things are western media, people and intelligence. Those are not objective.
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Which right wing movement group and did they orchestrate it? Again, questions I'm asking that are not loaded.

Also, perhaps try calming down a little.

comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 2 minutes ago
hmm while im not against a minute silence why only for when it happens in a western style country, we dont do minute silence when a middle eastern market place gets bombed
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Because terrorism is not the norm in western style countries

You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.
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Also, this comment is blind stupidity. I don't remember the Irish Republican Army being minorities or muslims but were clear terrorists for example.

I am still of the opinion England is a western country and they have the right to honour only western people deads.

It is human nature to act like that.

I don't think muslim people in muslim countries would have held a minute silence if it was the other way around.

comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 2 minutes ago
I am still of the opinion England is a western country and they have the right to honour only western people deads.

It is human nature to act like that.

I don't think muslim people in muslim countries would have held a minute silence if it was the other way around.
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England is not a country, the country is the UK - point one.

Point two, it's a large generalisation of a country with myriad races, cultures and nationalities. It's what makes this country so good.

Another incident this morning, this time in Utrecht...

comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 11 seconds ago
You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.
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Also, this comment is blind stupidity. I don't remember the Irish Republican Army being minorities or muslims but were clear terrorists for example.
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You pack your comments as a wolf in sheeps clothing but you would not fool me.

comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 11 seconds ago
You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.
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Also, this comment is blind stupidity. I don't remember the Irish Republican Army being minorities or muslims but were clear terrorists for example.
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You pack your comments as a wolf in sheeps clothing but you would not fool me.
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You're a hateful individual aren't you.

Maybe the English FA doesn't want to associate itself with what is happening in New Zealand right now and let me explain why :
The Prime Minister of New Zealand a non-Muslim going around dressed in a black headscarf,hugging families of the victims for the cameras as if she's known them all if their life the men included,which I'm pretty sure is NOT part of their culture grabbing men she doesn't know?
Putting her cultural appropriation aside the other extremely disturbing thing I see us at least two separate Maori 'gangs' the Mongrels and another one apparently called 'Black Power' doing Hakas and shamelessly using the whole tragic event to promote New Zealand and Maori gang culture just wtf is that all about?
Again all done under the nose of a not camera shy Prime Minister milking the life out of the whole thing for publicity,to be honest what I've seen of the reaction there is bizarre in the extreme and absolutely sickens me to the very pit of my stomach!
What the poor,grieving relatives must be thinking about it all right now really us anyone's guess but confused is probably the understatement of the millennium?

comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 11 seconds ago
You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.
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Also, this comment is blind stupidity. I don't remember the Irish Republican Army being minorities or muslims but were clear terrorists for example.
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You pack your comments as a wolf in sheeps clothing but you would not fool me.
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You're a hateful individual aren't you.
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You are a facking disgrace like I have said many times. A tory right wing racist as you are has the tendency to call me a hateful person.

comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 14 minutes ago
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by The Mane Man ( life at this age is rubbish with no money #needajob) (U19731)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 11 seconds ago
You are a tory right wing guy so everything you say is biased against minorities and muslims.
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Also, this comment is blind stupidity. I don't remember the Irish Republican Army being minorities or muslims but were clear terrorists for example.
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You pack your comments as a wolf in sheeps clothing but you would not fool me.
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You're a hateful individual aren't you.
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You are a facking disgrace like I have said many times. A tory right wing racist as you are has the tendency to call me a hateful person.
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Racist based on what? This is intolerance at its finest once again from you mane man. And yes, you are absolutely the hateful one here.

OP wrote this sensitive and controversial article and didn't bother to vent his views on the subject.

This sort of things happen on RT.com.

Sad really.

Seven other terrorist attacks this MONTH have killed 15 or more people but not a single word is uttered by anyone.

We would have a minutes silence every game day if we were to 'do the right thing' ffs.