comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
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I think a family friend said the clothes were likely from her job as a doctor if she came into contact with dead bodies and then said clothes touched the toy. Sounds somewhat plausible but no idea how to explain the car.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
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McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
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They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
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Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
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You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
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No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
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He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
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They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So if there were tests done on cuddlecat, the places in the room and Kate's top did we get results?
Ignoring the car as the documentary said it was a mix of McCann DNA that couldn't be identified as anyone of them.
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
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I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they had contacts, shes as guilty as fck
I’ve not watched the Netflix documentary, but I recall that in a previous statement the McCanns explained the DNA in the back of the ( 25 days later ) hire car from the twins soiled nappies that they placed in the back of the said hire car.
The McCanns should be leading the investigation as they seem to have an answer for everything.
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
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The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
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They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
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You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
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No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
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He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
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They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
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Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
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I don't need people to tell me what to think. I can read the reports for myself thank you. You however are too lazy to read and when you do attempt, you don't understand what you're reading.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So if there were tests done on cuddlecat, the places in the room and Kate's top did we get results?
Ignoring the car as the documentary said it was a mix of McCann DNA that couldn't be identified as anyone of them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, there were no results. Nothing conclusive.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 9 minutes ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
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All without evidence.
PJ couldn't find evidence
Scotland Yard couldn't find evidence
And to top it all over the was a three country cover up to protect two parents after killing their child.
I was also visited by aliens, Elvis is alive and I ride a unicorn to work every day.
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they had contacts, shes as guilty as fck
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Come off it
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
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I don't need other people to tell me what the reports say, I have read them. Learn to read and then maybe you don't have to have everything spoonfed to you.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I do think TOOR is quite knowledgeable on the subject.
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
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Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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wearing socks and sandles
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
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They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
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I don't need people to tell me what to think. I can read the reports for myself thank you. You however are too lazy to read and when you do attempt, you don't understand what you're reading.
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You called someone out for complete nonsense then went on to repeat what they said so let's not pretend you're any more intelligent than anyone else on this thread.
You're on a threat about the documentary discussing it having never seen it.
You refuse to question your already held beliefs and keep harking on about reports, the documentary had the actual handler on. The leading authority on cadaver dogs in Europe.
But TOOR reports........
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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wearing socks and sandles
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Hang them.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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Gross negligence.
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posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think a family friend said the clothes were likely from her job as a doctor if she came into contact with dead bodies and then said clothes touched the toy. Sounds somewhat plausible but no idea how to explain the car.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
posted on 19/3/19
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So if there were tests done on cuddlecat, the places in the room and Kate's top did we get results?
Ignoring the car as the documentary said it was a mix of McCann DNA that couldn't be identified as anyone of them.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
they had contacts, shes as guilty as fck
posted on 19/3/19
I’ve not watched the Netflix documentary, but I recall that in a previous statement the McCanns explained the DNA in the back of the ( 25 days later ) hire car from the twins soiled nappies that they placed in the back of the said hire car.
The McCanns should be leading the investigation as they seem to have an answer for everything.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
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McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
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They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
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Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
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You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
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No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
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He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
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They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
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Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
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I don't need people to tell me what to think. I can read the reports for myself thank you. You however are too lazy to read and when you do attempt, you don't understand what you're reading.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
The dogs are the only hard evidence that point towards the McCann's being involved.
I thought every single thing aside from that could have another feasible explanation and the documentary did a good job of showing the viewer that.
I just cannot totally believe them until someone provides a proper explanation about the cadaver scent. Although i lean more towards innocence than guilt now.
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Thats not true. The dogs barking is no hard evidence.
Every alert can be subject to interpretation, it has to be confirmed. The signals of an alert are only just that. Once the alert has been given by the dog, it is up to the investigator/forensic scientist to locate, identify and scientifically provide the evidence of DNA, etc.
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So if there were tests done on cuddlecat, the places in the room and Kate's top did we get results?
Ignoring the car as the documentary said it was a mix of McCann DNA that couldn't be identified as anyone of them.
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No, there were no results. Nothing conclusive.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 9 minutes ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
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All without evidence.
PJ couldn't find evidence
Scotland Yard couldn't find evidence
And to top it all over the was a three country cover up to protect two parents after killing their child.
I was also visited by aliens, Elvis is alive and I ride a unicorn to work every day.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 37 seconds ago
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 34 seconds ago
Kate drugged her
went back found her dead on the floor
phoned some dodgy dude to make it look like an abduction
Passed Maddie out the window
Ran screaming to everyone
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I always ensure I have the following emergency contact details for the following to hand when on holiday;
Travel/health insurance
Bank contact details
Phone number for some ‘dodgy dude’ just in case I accidentally kill one of my children and have to create an elaborate conspiracy to cover my tracks.
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they had contacts, shes as guilty as fck
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Come off it
posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
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The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
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You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
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I don't need other people to tell me what the reports say, I have read them. Learn to read and then maybe you don't have to have everything spoonfed to you.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 9 minutes ago
I think you are wrong TOOR:
'The dog EVRD also alerts to blood from a live human being or only from a cadaver'
The dog EVRD is trained using whole and disintegrated material, blood, bone tissue, teeth, etc. and decomposed cross-contaminants. The dog will recognize all or parts of a human cadaver. He is not trained for 'live' human odours; no trained dog will recognize the smell of 'fresh blood'. They find, however, and give the alert for dried blood from a live human being.
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The reports have proved this incorrect. I even saw one instance when a dog alerted to a piece of skull, which turned out to be a coconut shell.
There are loads of reports stating the issues with the dogs, misleading them in cases. Most notably Grime(the handler), Harrison, and Operation Rectangle.
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You haven't even watched it. Pipe down.
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I do think TOOR is quite knowledgeable on the subject.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
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Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
posted on 19/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
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Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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wearing socks and sandles
posted on 19/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Picasso (U21397)
posted 10 seconds ago
comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
Also what about the claims they used the maddie funds to pay off their house?
Was that proven to be false because it wasn't mentioned in the series?
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McCanns admitted they made 2 mortgage payments from their fund.
Expect that hubcap-stealer to deny it.
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They also used $300,000 out of the fund to pay a shady security consultant who said hw would find her...... he turned out to be a fraudster.......
Easy to do that if it’s not your money ....
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Absolute nonsense.
He was part of a firm the McCann's hired to find their daughter. He was subsequently being investigated for fraud and it was said he was misusing the £300,000 paid for the six month contract.
Why do people make things up?
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You just said absolute nonsense then went on to agree with him
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No I didn't. It's becoming evident that you're not only too lazy to read but struggle with it. Learn to read.
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He said they paid 300k for someone to find their daughter who was a fraudster and you said nonsense they paid someone 300k to find their daughter but he was a fraudster.
Your both correct, just funny you thought it was nonsense then agreed.
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They didn't. They paid a firm and that guy worked for the firm and was being investigated in an unrelated case of fraud.
You can't read. Wow.
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Watch the documentary then come back because you are again wrong.
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I don't need people to tell me what to think. I can read the reports for myself thank you. You however are too lazy to read and when you do attempt, you don't understand what you're reading.
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You called someone out for complete nonsense then went on to repeat what they said so let's not pretend you're any more intelligent than anyone else on this thread.
You're on a threat about the documentary discussing it having never seen it.
You refuse to question your already held beliefs and keep harking on about reports, the documentary had the actual handler on. The leading authority on cadaver dogs in Europe.
But TOOR reports........
posted on 19/3/19
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 12 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
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Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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wearing socks and sandles
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Hang them.
posted on 19/3/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Let's face it they're guilty of something either way.
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Guilty of neglect or murder is quite a difference though
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So is being found guilty of absolutely nothing.
Should be doing some time imo.
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Agreed
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Doing time for what? Surely you have to be proven guilty of a crime to do time?
What crime are they guilty of?
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Gross negligence.
posted on 19/3/19
Sandals even
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