I thought the guy who checked didn't actually look inside to see if she was in there? Jist thought they were asleep because he didn't hear anything?

Read the FACTS of the case.
NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION......

well if you discount Kate statement of "as soon as I saw she wasn't in the bed i KNEW she's been taken.
That's all there is.
Sighting of a man carrying a child nearby was cleared up 2 weeks later when the man came forward, strangely that wasn't widely publicised in the media and certainly NOT on McCanns website

KATE, GERRY & PALS REPEATEDLY LIED and changed their statements.

Kate & Gerry refusing to help the police by answering 48 simple questions.

What "innocent people" would do the following IMMEDIATELY after their child went missing :-
WIPE all details of calls & texts (in & out) from BOTH phones.
Arrange extradition lawyers
Arrange the UK's most expensive firm of libel lawyers to sue everyone who dared to print anything other than McCann's fairy story
All the above done within 24 hours.

Read the police reports - the abduction was STAGED
Kate telling all & sundry that the shutters were smashed and someone got in - LIES, shutters could NOT be opened from outside and police confirmed no tampering
So work it out Sherlock, no abductor so who does that leave ? Either McCanns or invisible aliens beamed her up.

You want EVIDENCE, look at the dogs who in over 200 cases HAD NEVER BEEN WRONG.
So who's dead body was in the apartment right in the spot where her DNA was found ? Who's dead body had been in their hired car along with hr blood ?
Those lying skumbags make me sick.

My gut feeling is that she has accidently been killed and they've covered it up. Did their friends help? Quite possibly. Id be tempted to lie for my friends if I felt no good would come of making the twins virtually orphaned by sending the patents to jail tbh.

Documentaries can create spin whichever way they like.

There are various senior figures of policing and ambassadorial standing that think theyre liars.

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comment by Cal Neva (U11544)
posted 8 minutes ago
There isn't any evidence of foul by the McCanns, none.
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There isnt any evidence of her being abducted either.

There is a kid missing though.

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 26 minutes ago
Hengy, I’ve just read that thread and it’s absolutely shady as hell. I had no clue Kate McCann described her daughter as having ‘perfect genitalia’ nor did I know on the night of the disappearance she was surrounded by about four suspected paedophiles.
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It’s crazy mate.

One thing I'll never understand is why they left the door unlocked. Even if you're checking every 20 minutes, that's still a long time where anything can happen.

The McCann's original police statements on 4th May said the apartment was fully locked, all doors and windows) so they entered via the LOCKED front door.
Their next statements on May 10th said they entered via UNLOCKED patio door. Is that something you are likely to be mistaken about ? What happened in between was police stating there was no break-in.
Innocent people don't continually lie.
There is no consistency between the McCanns and their friends over events that day, Hell, even Gerry & Kate disagree on who picked the girl up from the kids club.

comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 10 minutes ago
One thing I'll never understand is why they left the door unlocked. Even if you're checking every 20 minutes, that's still a long time where anything can happen.


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So they could let the nonces living around the area enter and abduct their daughter, they are an absolute disgrace to parenthood.

It's likely that Maddie died a day or 2 BEFORE May 4th.
There is the "evidence" of "the last photo" of her apparently taken on May 4th ....except the weather and their lack of tanned skin (shown on other photos) indicates it must have been taken on the Sunday (only sunny day). Also odd that McCanns gave all their photos to the police but ...... didn't give that one until 3 weeks later.

I saw a picture on bebo of Kate with her hair done. If my kid was missing I would not have time to do my hair. She's guilty, for me.

comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by The artist formerly known as Joe (U15888)
posted 33 minutes ago
To anyone who thinks it was an abduction, heres a few questions

How did they know exactly when to take her
How did the other kids not wake up
Why was maddies blood behind the couch
Why was a cadaver in the room
Why did maddies teddy smell like one
Why did the clothes smell like one
Why did the parents go on a roadshow
Why did they accept so much money
Why did they leave Portugal as soon as they started being questions

WHY THE FECK WAS MADDIES DNA FOUND IN A CAR A MONTH AFTER HER DISAPPEARANCE
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How did they know exactly when to take her
- This info could have been taking from the public dinner reservation book at the tapas bar. Also shady people have been spotted monitoring the area. There was an active paedophile in the area.
How did the other kids not wake up
- Drugged by the abductor
Why was maddies blood behind the couch
- Maddies blood was not behind the couch, there was no DNA match
Why was a cadaver in the room
- A dog barked in the room, doesn’t mean it was Maddie
Why did maddies teddy smell like one
- They smelled blood on the Teddy not cadaver. My kids teddy will probably smell like blood too. Kids have accidents all the time.
Why did the clothes smell like one
- Don’t know
Why did the parents go on a roadshow
- To get attention from the public to help find their daughter
Why did they accept so much money
- Police closed the investigation, they had to hire private detectives
Why did they leave Portugal as soon as they started being questions
- They left after being vilified by the media and police for 9 months

WHY THE FECK WAS MADDIES DNA FOUND IN A CAR A MONTH AFTER HER DISAPPEARANCE

- THERE WAS NO DNA FOUND THAT BELONGED TO MADDIE. IT WAS THE PORTUGAL POLICE WHO SAID THAT AFTER ONLY TRANSLATING HALF OF THE UK TEST REPORT LEAVING OUT ALL CONCERNS STATING THAT THERE WAS NO 100% DNA MATCH. ONLY 80% AND IT WAS INCONCLUSIVE. THE DNA SAMPLE WAS SO SMALL THAT IT COULD HAVE BEEN FROM ANYONE.

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CHECK THE FACTS MY FRIEND

Those dogs have been used n over 200 cases and never been wrong (OK could be a first time but that is stretching it too far).
The dogs went into McCanns apptment on separate days, both indicated behind the sofa where Maddies' blood was found.
Not DNA has 19 "markers" the samples found behind the sofa matched 15 out of 19. In Portugal that is not 100% match but it's widely acknowledged to mean it's A BILLION TO 1 that is isn't hers.
Portugal needs all 19 to match, the FBI need just 15 and in France 15 is also considered a match.

The Portugese police knew who was guilty but the evidence wasn't enough for them to be charged.
Again, looks at the evidence of the dogs, DNA from blood sample behind sofa and other dog alerts to exactly the same spot.
If the body in the apartment behind the sofa was indeed the billion to 1 "non-match" and the body in the hire car also a billion to 1 "non-match" then you have the biggest coincidence going but nobody reported dead bodies in either of those locations.

And very strange the Gerry's blue tennis holdall disappeared at the same time, he says he didn't have one but then he would say that wouldn't he ?

also the police asked the McCanns to drug test the twins BUT THEY REFUSED !!!!
5 months later they asked the police to do the drug test (being doctors they would know all signs would be gone).

I've read stuff on the internet about the case so I know what happened and who did it. PM me for details.

comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 56 minutes ago
Hengy, I’ve just read that thread and it’s absolutely shady as hell. I had no clue Kate McCann described her daughter as having ‘perfect genitalia’ nor did I know on the night of the disappearance she was surrounded by about four suspected paedophiles.
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Well taken in isolation that sounds weird but what actually happened was Kate asked Gerry if he ever thought about what could be happening to her if a paedophile has her and she thought how horrible it would be, thinking of her perfect genitalia parts being ripped apart. Now remember they are both doctors, something to do with body parts like this may sound weird to us but it may be a normal term to them.

I don’t know TOOR, I think that would be the last thing on my mind.

comment by Alli oop (U7471)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 44 minutes ago
comment by Alli oop (U7471)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Alisson Chains (U3979)
posted 12 minutes ago
Leaving your kids drugged whilst going out with friends, not answering a bunch of questions that could help with the dissappearance and frankly profiteering from the whole event. Something is incredibly dodgy here.

Also why do people seem to accept that these Netflix documentaries are some source of the truth? They were created by a TV company to make money, nothing more nothing less.

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This is exactly my thoughts. A tv show designed to keep the viewer guessing. Can’t take it as gospel.

A daughter drugged by her parents and overdosed. Even if it was an accident they would lose their doctors and GP license whilst still having to raise two other children. There’s definitely a motive.

Also those saying explain how she can be so distraught in pictures and videos, she’s just lost her daughter be it through abduction or accidental death. Will take it’s toll on Anyone. Horrible situation either way you look at it.
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They would have had to involve 7 people in the cover up. Even one of their dinner party went in to check on the kids. And it is not crazy to think that the abductor drugged the kids when taking Madeline, instead of the parents.

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The bloke in the dinner party went into the apartment to check on whether or not the kids were crying and never went into their room according to the documentary. That’s odd in itself.

I’m not saying the McCanns did it im just not into ruling them out.

Is it better they did drug her and overdose her? Than the Probable conclusion of abduction/trafficking?
Maybe that’s why people choose to believe it was the parents.
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Risk of severe liver damage (ie a peak ALT more than 1000 IU/L)

Based on the dose of paracetamol ingested (mg/kg body weight):
Less than 150 mg/kg - unlikely.
More than 250 mg/kg - likely.
More than 12 g total - potentially fatal.

Dont think two doctors would overdose their kid with Calpol.

comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 56 minutes ago
Hengy, I’ve just read that thread and it’s absolutely shady as hell. I had no clue Kate McCann described her daughter as having ‘perfect genitalia’ nor did I know on the night of the disappearance she was surrounded by about four suspected paedophiles.
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Well taken in isolation that sounds weird but what actually happened was Kate asked Gerry if he ever thought about what could be happening to her if a paedophile has her and she thought how horrible it would be, thinking of her perfect genitalia parts being ripped apart. Now remember they are both doctors, something to do with body parts like this may sound weird to us but it may be a normal term to them.
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Think this is a bit of a stretch, the use of "perfect" is weird even if it's just a case of doctors always talking about genitals causally

I doubt they used Calpol to make a child sleep. Also paracetomal is an incredibly painful death.

Some kind of benzo would be more likely.

comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 56 minutes ago
Hengy, I’ve just read that thread and it’s absolutely shady as hell. I had no clue Kate McCann described her daughter as having ‘perfect genitalia’ nor did I know on the night of the disappearance she was surrounded by about four suspected paedophiles.
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Well taken in isolation that sounds weird but what actually happened was Kate asked Gerry if he ever thought about what could be happening to her if a paedophile has her and she thought how horrible it would be, thinking of her perfect genitalia parts being ripped apart. Now remember they are both doctors, something to do with body parts like this may sound weird to us but it may be a normal term to them.
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Think this is a bit of a stretch, the use of "perfect" is weird even if it's just a case of doctors always talking about genitals causally
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Parents see their children as perfect. I think every parent uses the word perfect when talking about their kids

I've never left the house and spend most of my time on 4chan so know it was the parents that killed her

comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Martial FC (U11781)
posted 56 minutes ago
Hengy, I’ve just read that thread and it’s absolutely shady as hell. I had no clue Kate McCann described her daughter as having ‘perfect genitalia’ nor did I know on the night of the disappearance she was surrounded by about four suspected paedophiles.
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Well taken in isolation that sounds weird but what actually happened was Kate asked Gerry if he ever thought about what could be happening to her if a paedophile has her and she thought how horrible it would be, thinking of her perfect genitalia parts being ripped apart. Now remember they are both doctors, something to do with body parts like this may sound weird to us but it may be a normal term to them.
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Think this is a bit of a stretch, the use of "perfect" is weird even if it's just a case of doctors always talking about genitals causally
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Parents see their children as perfect. I think every parent uses the word perfect when talking about their kids
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I will never, ecer say those words about my kid.

What i don't get is all the talk of blood? Are some suggesting they actually murdered her or something rather than it being a sad accident?

comment by puffinthebushkangaroo (U1950)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
Read the FACTS of the case.
NO EVIDENCE OF AN ABDUCTION......

well if you discount Kate statement of "as soon as I saw she wasn't in the bed i KNEW she's been taken.
That's all there is.
Sighting of a man carrying a child nearby was cleared up 2 weeks later when the man came forward, strangely that wasn't widely publicised in the media and certainly NOT on McCanns website

KATE, GERRY & PALS REPEATEDLY LIED and changed their statements.

Kate & Gerry refusing to help the police by answering 48 simple questions.

What "innocent people" would do the following IMMEDIATELY after their child went missing :-
WIPE all details of calls & texts (in & out) from BOTH phones.
Arrange extradition lawyers
Arrange the UK's most expensive firm of libel lawyers to sue everyone who dared to print anything other than McCann's fairy story
All the above done within 24 hours.

Read the police reports - the abduction was STAGED
Kate telling all & sundry that the shutters were smashed and someone got in - LIES, shutters could NOT be opened from outside and police confirmed no tampering
So work it out Sherlock, no abductor so who does that leave ? Either McCanns or invisible aliens beamed her up.

You want EVIDENCE, look at the dogs who in over 200 cases HAD NEVER BEEN WRONG.
So who's dead body was in the apartment right in the spot where her DNA was found ? Who's dead body had been in their hired car along with hr blood ?
Those lying skumbags make me sick.
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DOGS DON'T LIE!
Two hundred cases and they have NEVER been wrong just let that sink in!
There was even a case in America where a Mexican-American guy actually got off from murdering his wife the case was dismissed against him,then years later he confessed that he was indeed guilty and DID murder his wife!
They found traces of Maddie's cadaver in multiple,completely different places two different dogs that had never been wrong before but this time they were?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=c4NMYPsFKb8