Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
They have a completely different style of play, one likes to have the ball himself and make things happen with his feet be it himself or drawing opponents to him to free up space for teammates while the other tends to prefer movements off the ball and running at pace.
They sound so similar
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 7 seconds ago
I've seen Hazard play as a left winger, a number 10 and false 9 as well.
So even more similar, thanks
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So what you’re saying it’s its hard to define player position. You say Hazard and Sterling are the same. Therefore so are Bergkamp and Phillips because they both played in the same position, regardless of playing style.
In fact Giroud is better than Lukaku this season by wahl’s logic despite being 32
I don’t agree these two players are better than Hazard but he does raise some valid points. People act like it’s sacrilege to compare them when it’s really not.
The stats thing is an interesting one because it’s not something you can completely rely on, but to dismiss a player’s end product out of hand because another doesn’t have that level of effectiveness is just as silly as how Wahl dismisses the facets of Hazard’s game that stats don’t always highlight.
It’s difficult to compare different styles of players but there surely comes a point where you can judge the effectiveness and influence of a player in their specific role, and that’s where a less talented, more effective footballer can overtake a more naturally gifted, cultured footballer playing a role that underpins a team’s style.
People used to say Iniesta and Xavi were better than Messi because they were more important to the way that Barca played. And while there’s some truth in that, it just wasn’t the case that they were ever better footballers.
Hazard is a playmaker. Sterling isn’t.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 22 seconds ago
They are the EXACT same kind of player. Goalscoring wide forward. EXACT same.
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You mean like Bergkamp and Phillips we’re both strikers?
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NO because Phillips was a tradition number 9 out and out striker and Bergkamp wasn't. Hazard and Sterling are both goalscoring wide forwards.
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Really? Because I’ve seen Sterling play as a right winger, a wing back, a number 10 and a false 9....
Bergkamp was a striker. Fact.
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Bergkamp was a traditional 4-4-2 number 10 where he was the creator of the two forwards. Ian Wright was the poacher, like Phillips. Niall Quinn was his creator in the 4-4-2 although they created in very different ways.
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
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I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
Suggesting Sterling is a better player than Hazard based on nothing but number of goals is what’s ridiculous
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
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I thought I was going crazy bro thanks
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
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Better stats this season bro
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
I don’t agree these two players are better than Hazard but he does raise some valid points. People act like it’s sacrilege to compare them when it’s really not.
The stats thing is an interesting one because it’s not something you can completely rely on, but to dismiss a player’s end product out of hand because another doesn’t have that level of effectiveness is just as silly as how Wahl dismisses the facets of Hazard’s game that stats don’t always highlight.
It’s difficult to compare different styles of players but there surely comes a point where you can judge the effectiveness and influence of a player in their specific role, and that’s where a less talented, more effective footballer can overtake a more naturally gifted, cultured footballer playing a role that underpins a team’s style.
People used to say Iniesta and Xavi were better than Messi because they were more important to the way that Barca played. And while there’s some truth in that, it just wasn’t the case that they were ever better footballers.
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Thanks bro
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
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Better stats this season bro
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Which stats? the ones you've made up?
Lukaku goals = 15
Giroud goals = 10
comment by DL11 (U21614)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
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I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
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He does rgularly dissapear, the cuuunt hasn't turned up for us since September.
Giroud 16 G/A in about 1300 minutes
Lukaku 15 G/A in about 2200 minutes
Better, more productive player overall
Furrrking hell you're having a go at Azpi for one or two bad games but Hazard dissapears for months on end and he's still the best.
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by DL11 (U21614)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He does rgularly dissapear, the cuuunt hasn't turned up for us since September.
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Us?
Assists aren't important for a striker, I only care about goals. Giroud hattrick against useless Europa team pumps up his stats as well.
It’s more than just goals he trumps him, though. He’s a tactically more intelligent player than Hazard. What Sterling does off the ball is immensely important to the teams he plays in.
He doesn’t bring the same thrust in transition that Mane and Hazard do when they have the ball, though he’s good at running with the ball and picking out his teammates, but he’s an extremely effective player in the final third and has a huge influence on creating space for his teammates. He’s one of City’s most important players for a reason.
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
There's a reason why Guardiola trusts Sterling so much. He's been arguably the player of the season this year in the premier league as a whole He's actually so underrated it seems judging by these comments.
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
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I can't believe I even have to explain why Lukaku is better than Giroud
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
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I can't believe I even have to explain why Lukaku is better than Giroud
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Give it a go!
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posted on 22/3/19
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
posted on 22/3/19
They have a completely different style of play, one likes to have the ball himself and make things happen with his feet be it himself or drawing opponents to him to free up space for teammates while the other tends to prefer movements off the ball and running at pace.
They sound so similar
posted on 22/3/19
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 7 seconds ago
I've seen Hazard play as a left winger, a number 10 and false 9 as well.
So even more similar, thanks
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So what you’re saying it’s its hard to define player position. You say Hazard and Sterling are the same. Therefore so are Bergkamp and Phillips because they both played in the same position, regardless of playing style.
posted on 22/3/19
In fact Giroud is better than Lukaku this season by wahl’s logic despite being 32
posted on 22/3/19
I don’t agree these two players are better than Hazard but he does raise some valid points. People act like it’s sacrilege to compare them when it’s really not.
The stats thing is an interesting one because it’s not something you can completely rely on, but to dismiss a player’s end product out of hand because another doesn’t have that level of effectiveness is just as silly as how Wahl dismisses the facets of Hazard’s game that stats don’t always highlight.
It’s difficult to compare different styles of players but there surely comes a point where you can judge the effectiveness and influence of a player in their specific role, and that’s where a less talented, more effective footballer can overtake a more naturally gifted, cultured footballer playing a role that underpins a team’s style.
People used to say Iniesta and Xavi were better than Messi because they were more important to the way that Barca played. And while there’s some truth in that, it just wasn’t the case that they were ever better footballers.
posted on 22/3/19
Hazard is a playmaker. Sterling isn’t.
posted on 22/3/19
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 22 seconds ago
They are the EXACT same kind of player. Goalscoring wide forward. EXACT same.
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You mean like Bergkamp and Phillips we’re both strikers?
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NO because Phillips was a tradition number 9 out and out striker and Bergkamp wasn't. Hazard and Sterling are both goalscoring wide forwards.
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Really? Because I’ve seen Sterling play as a right winger, a wing back, a number 10 and a false 9....
Bergkamp was a striker. Fact.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bergkamp was a traditional 4-4-2 number 10 where he was the creator of the two forwards. Ian Wright was the poacher, like Phillips. Niall Quinn was his creator in the 4-4-2 although they created in very different ways.
posted on 22/3/19
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
posted on 22/3/19
Suggesting Sterling is a better player than Hazard based on nothing but number of goals is what’s ridiculous
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
posted on 22/3/19
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 8 minutes ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I thought I was going crazy bro thanks
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
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Better stats this season bro
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
I don’t agree these two players are better than Hazard but he does raise some valid points. People act like it’s sacrilege to compare them when it’s really not.
The stats thing is an interesting one because it’s not something you can completely rely on, but to dismiss a player’s end product out of hand because another doesn’t have that level of effectiveness is just as silly as how Wahl dismisses the facets of Hazard’s game that stats don’t always highlight.
It’s difficult to compare different styles of players but there surely comes a point where you can judge the effectiveness and influence of a player in their specific role, and that’s where a less talented, more effective footballer can overtake a more naturally gifted, cultured footballer playing a role that underpins a team’s style.
People used to say Iniesta and Xavi were better than Messi because they were more important to the way that Barca played. And while there’s some truth in that, it just wasn’t the case that they were ever better footballers.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thanks bro
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 33 seconds ago
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 3 minutes ago
Giroud is as good as Lukaku this season then Wahl?
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What the furrrk are yoi talking about bro? How?
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Better stats this season bro
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Which stats? the ones you've made up?
Lukaku goals = 15
Giroud goals = 10
posted on 22/3/19
comment by DL11 (U21614)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He does rgularly dissapear, the cuuunt hasn't turned up for us since September.
posted on 22/3/19
Giroud 16 G/A in about 1300 minutes
Lukaku 15 G/A in about 2200 minutes
Better, more productive player overall
posted on 22/3/19
Furrrking hell you're having a go at Azpi for one or two bad games but Hazard dissapears for months on end and he's still the best.
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by DL11 (U21614)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by #LiquidGenius (U20571)
posted 1 minute ago
Jesus. What is happening here?
It’s perfectly valid to criticise Hazard for lack of goals in comparison to players who PLAY THE SAME ROLE.
Hazard and Sterling both play the same role in the same way.
Bergkamp and Phillips played different roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I can accept criticism of Hazard's goal record in isolation, it's this fantasy he regularly disappears or isn't a world class player i can't accept.
For example i don't think CR7 is a great passer of the ball but i would never manipulate that fact to suggest he's not the best overall bar Messi.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He does rgularly dissapear, the cuuunt hasn't turned up for us since September.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Us?
posted on 22/3/19
Assists aren't important for a striker, I only care about goals. Giroud hattrick against useless Europa team pumps up his stats as well.
posted on 22/3/19
It’s more than just goals he trumps him, though. He’s a tactically more intelligent player than Hazard. What Sterling does off the ball is immensely important to the teams he plays in.
He doesn’t bring the same thrust in transition that Mane and Hazard do when they have the ball, though he’s good at running with the ball and picking out his teammates, but he’s an extremely effective player in the final third and has a huge influence on creating space for his teammates. He’s one of City’s most important players for a reason.
posted on 22/3/19
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
posted on 22/3/19
There's a reason why Guardiola trusts Sterling so much. He's been arguably the player of the season this year in the premier league as a whole He's actually so underrated it seems judging by these comments.
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
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I can't believe I even have to explain why Lukaku is better than Giroud
posted on 22/3/19
comment by Jose Mourinho, just the Portuguese Fat Sam, teaching 19th century football. Klopp is the better manager, and Eva Caniero was right. #Hazard knows ✌ (U22090)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 minute ago
Yes it’s pretty evident all you care about is goals lol
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I can't believe I even have to explain why Lukaku is better than Giroud
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Give it a go!
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