comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 4 hours, 34 minutes ago
We need to embrace it without reservation, what we need to address is how it benefits society to combat mass unemployment.



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Half of all jobs gone, that's either half the population unemployed, or the profits and benefits of automation being shared, and everyone working 20 hours a week!!

I agree with this, but my point is, it is and will happen and we would be stupid to pretend otherwise.


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The future is nano technology, robotics and AI along with electric cars and no more tough tackling footballers.

The end is nigh.

I hear electric cars May have to make some noise to pass health and safety regulations.

I had a milltek exhaust system on a Supercharged Civic Type R, so that sound would be good.

C63 AMG tone and we're all smiling.

This would be my preference.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ukmjBSQY-c

Tesla have just announced record 2nd quarter numbers, selling a massive 95,200 cars, 77,000 of those were the Model 3.

Apparently Musk has said they are production constrained, not demand constrained, basically they sold everything they could make.

Tesla is really shaking up the auto industry.

comment by Amigawolf no longer MIA (U18508)
posted 9 hours, 7 minutes ago
Tesla have just announced record 2nd quarter numbers, selling a massive 95,200 cars, 77,000 of those were the Model 3.

Apparently Musk has said they are production constrained, not demand constrained, basically they sold everything they could make.

Tesla is really shaking up the auto industry.
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Of course they are, they are both are revolutionising the industry from both an automotive and automated point of view,

Im probably still 5 years from my next car, and still need to see some improvement on the 4wd/awd side of things before i can go electric.

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Im probably still 5 years from my next car, and still need to see some improvement on the 4wd/awd side of things before i can go electric.

The next couple of years is going to see an explosion of EV's hitting the market, as the major Auto manufacturers gear up for their place in the new EV market.

Five years everybody will be looking at EV's with far more choice on offer, Solid state battery tech will probably be being offered as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLMzJN6vMA&lc=z23hj1zqhuyngf4s3acdp435o3drcvm3q1zym0ex3gpw03c010c.1562522031736642

Electric car breaks record set 20 years ago by a formula 1 car.

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 6 days, 2 hours ago
C63 AMG tone and we're all smiling.
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thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 32 minutes ago
C63 AMG tone

Why would you want it sounding slow?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=b-Hj2gn9gZQ

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/06/28/paris-air-show-era-of-electric-flight-is-closer-than-you-think.html

Electric aviation..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rE_M1n-ClOA

Electric ships. The world is changing, and most people have no idea how quickly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oih7zzZaT0Q

The new Honda E's interior. I really love how bold they have tried to go (vs the Tesla/Polestar minimalistic look)

comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted on 9/4/19
I see a fair few Leafs and Teslas, not common ofc but I’d say they’re regular enough now that I’m not like omg there’s an electric car wow like I was a few years ago. In the grand scheme (in my head lol) that probs means they’re regular.

What would it take for you to invest in one Arab? As a young person I don’t think they’re attractive due to constantly moving about and (will my next house have a driveway/accessible charging point?) and as it’s your only car long journeys need better thinking about it. And still relatively expensive. However I think it makes sense for all the rich multi car households out there. Electric car for the school run, shops, charge it each night in/near the garage and use the diesel Merc for long journeys.
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I still maintain the EV car market/technology right now suits most older buyers, who have a permanent house to live in. One reflection I have had, (on the background of the Honda E/Tesla comment above) is I think some EVs go too radical on their interior design for these old buyers. Anecdotal evidence supporting my theory - my parents who are on the lookout for a new EV car didn't like the Tesla for literally that reason.

Cars have changed a lot in just 10 years. Someone who is 50-70 will have been used to driving their manual car with basically same interior design/function for 30-40 years. All of a sudden within a few years these EV cars need all sorts of apps and have extremely radical interiors. Even with me, a young geez, while some of these interior designs excite me, I also think 'would I just prefer a bog standard, functional interior that I'm used to' when I see them

People look at EV's as a whole new technology, which to a point it is. But in reality once you get over the fact it uses electricity over petrol/diesel the experience is generally better.

Taking away the design advantages of not having to deal with a big engine, gears, drive train and exhaust, the EV has the flexibility to embrace future tech,

Basically It is just a car and driving an EV can be as basic or as leading edge as you want it to be.

We drive our Leaf and don't give a thought about it being electric, and apart from the advantages of electric, it is just our means to get around.

I still maintain the EV car market/technology right now suits most older buyers, who have a permanent house to live in.
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I think this is an important point. It would be interesting to see some buyer data to see the demographics. I can't imagine the young, renter groups would be buying these up, despite the fact that they are most likely the group with the strongest opinions on climate change.

https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/cars/article-7686157/New-research-says-cut-age-motorists-reluctant-consider-EV-55-years.html

The younger groups will embrace EV's, they are already tech savy, and are not so stuck in their ways, also as you say concerns about climate will affect them more than the older generation.

Unsurprisingly, having the ability to charge at home was cited as the most important need by over half (53 per cent) of the survey panel when considering whether to purchase an electric vehicle.
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that's the key paragraph for me which backs up the point Kunta was making.

If you don't own your own home, or live in a flat three floors up, then EV cars become a less realistic option, which is increasingly the situation that those in the younger demographic find themselves in.

Ivan there is no doubt their is an issue around charging for some people. But again people are only looking at the here and now.

Batteries are getting more energy dense, cars are gaining more range. prices are falling, charging times getting shorter.

There is no inherent problem in an EV that cannot be solved, with many solutions being rolled out, IE longer ranges, faster charging, street charging, wireless charging etc.

Remember we are at the start of the EV revolution, there are many misconceptions, and as prices fall and people understand more about the advantages, EV's quickly become the most sensible option.

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 22 hours, 11 minutes ago
Unsurprisingly, having the ability to charge at home was cited as the most important need by over half (53 per cent) of the survey panel when considering whether to purchase an electric vehicle.
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that's the key paragraph for me which backs up the point Kunta was making.

If you don't own your own home, or live in a flat three floors up, then EV cars become a less realistic option, which is increasingly the situation that those in the younger demographic find themselves in.
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This is symptomatic of a wider issue where its acceptable to build homes without adequate parking, etc, No gardens etc, same for places of work. I used to work in an office building for 200 people with 20 parking spaces. 3 of which were reserved for visitors to site.

I cant wait to get an EV, but installation of charging points both domestic and probably at work places will be quite an undertaking.

Hey Amiga, I'm looking around for some hybrid cars as a next car potentially. What are your thoughts on the A-Class hybrid? Is it worth investing in? Would like to know your thoughts.

I'm not really up to speed with hybrids Constantinople. So can't really comment on anything specific.

If you had asked me about a full electric, I'm sure I would have had some thoughts. Unless you you have your heart set on a hybrid, I would certainly say give electric a go. you might be surprised. I certainly was.

But whatever car you choose, enjoy, and let me know how you get on.

To be fair I have just had a quick look. It is a nice looking car, and it is a PHEV, so that's in it's favour. so I can see it's appeal.

I will say Hybrids are the last gasps of the combustion engine, and people use these sort of vehicle as a stepping stone to a full EV. as they don't feel ready to fully commit to electric.

But for the price you are not far from a Tesla model 3, which is outselling all other car manufacturers in it's price range combined. that is where I would be looking, it holds it's value exceptionally well, and does things other cars can't do.

If you want my thoughts on Tesla, that I can give you my thoughts on. to be honest that is what I am considering, but I don't drive enough, to really warrant it. but it has my attention.

I can’t afford to go full electric, they are far too expansive. I looked at a Merc dealer’s website and I can get one for £350 a month on a PCP. A lease would be about £295 a month as well.

And I still want to experience a petrol engine as well, as you said a hybrid is a transition for me to eventually move to electric.

I fully understand what you are saying Constantinople, It is a conversation I have had many times.

If you still feel the need for a combustion engine, then it seems like a reasonable choice. from the little I know. although if are using the combustion side as a safety net. I would say there is no need. (especially with Tesla's) thanks to their charging network.

But the future is electric, and I would encourage you to a least test drive a Tesla if you can. If not then, good luck with the hybrid, and I really would be interested in how you get on, so keep me informed

Oh there are other great EV's out there, and more on the way. and not all as expensive as a Tesla.

Tesla do have a laser focus though, and have the software and charging network, that does give them advantages when it comes to electric.

There is a lot happening with EV's, and people are catching on to the advantages of owning one.

I have a four year old Nissan Leaf, and is easily the cheapest car as far as running costs I have owned, and has nothing has gone wrong with it, apart from a couple of tyres.

If I tried to get my wife anything but an EV now I'm sure she would divorce me, and she didn't even want one to start with