comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901) posted 4 minutes ago
Macca, it wasn't the most testing of games but he looked confident and reasonably fit.
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Cheers
Interesting to read he wasn't holding back in his tackling. Seems his head is back right, something he struggled with at United
Gutting he pulled his hamstring v Wolves last season. I only heard he was in the starting like up as I pulled off the M602. I nearly crashed ffs
The only trouble I forsee is that Hargo's recovery period seems ridiculous after sustaining an injury. More or less 6 months to recover from a hamstring injury doesn't bode well
Time will tell
Many players when they have finished their contract are allowed to carry on training with their former club until they find a new one.
I don't accept Hargreaves was viewed as a disruptive influence. So I would have to question; who amongst the rag hierarchy turfed him out?
It's only my opinion, but that seems a bit shameful x
I'm delighted for the lad, to be honest.
I think this could turn out to be the best bit of business Bobby has done for City.
Though it goes against everything I believe in I have to say thank you to Utd for letting us have him for nothing
Cheers
X (U4074)
I can't imagine Hargreaves to be a disruptive influence either. I'm not sure what the ins and outs of it are. Perhaps the owners are tired of paying for his physio and decided enough is enough? I'm sure someone knows, but they aren't saying anything.
We got him for nothing on a pay to play deal, so he's not costing us very much right now. In terms of value for money, he gave us a good hour and a goal, so he's a complete bargain!
Good luck to the lad, but I'll sow my ass if he's not injured in the very near future
Mixed feelings: It reminds me a bit of the time (eeh when I were a lad!) Denis Law "back-heeled" United into the second division. That had to be the biggest case of mixed feelings ever.
"I haven't a clue why we would let him go if he is fit again"
Agreed. He is exactly the type of player we were looking for over the summer.
I really don't see the logic in keeping hold of, and paying him for 3 years when he's injured. Then when we have the opportunity to keep him for free, and only pay him when he play's we offload him. Utter madness IMO.
I have a sneaky suspicion he'll come back to haunt us this season...
Denis Law "back-heeled" United into the second division.
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but he didn't.
"but he didn't."
True. The misconception around this exists because on the morning of the United-City game, it was still mathematically possible for United to avoid relegation. They were 3 points behind Birmingham with 2 games left to play (Birmingham had one game left). And because of an inferior goal difference to Birmingham, United effectively needed two wins and for Birmingham to lose their final game.
United knew that they had to beat City to stand a chance of staying up. But it transpired that Birmingham won their last game anyway, meaning that even if United had beaten City, they would have still been relegated.
So it is incorrect to state that Law's goal sent United down. What isn't incorrect to state was that at the time the game was being played, the players (and probably most, if not all, of the fans) would have no idea how the Birmingham game was playing out. It's for this reason that Law was so distraught after scoring his goal. To him (and everyone else in Old Trafford), at that precise moment in time it felt as though he had effectively relegated United.
Hence why a lot of significance was placed upon Law's goal. Hence why the misconception about its actual significance exists for many.
No he didn't they were already down, but another nail in the coffin didn't hurt.
I will chose to believe it sent them down! It gives me warm happy feelings
It's chiselled into my memory as the goal that sent them down and always will be.
As a United fan. I can honestly say I'm happy for the guy. He really had to take City's offer and I hope he can get his career back on track.
Saying that, I wouldn't mind him never winning another medal (unless it's with England).
Im very happy to see him back playing again. Awesome goal too for his return. It was almost written in the stars!
He was an exceptional talent when i first saw him playing for Bayern Munich.
It'll be fitting if he played against his former club - a club where his career took off.
I hope the best is yet to come from him.
He was my favourite England player at the 2006 World Cup. His desire, hunger, determination, will to win.
The best thing about him was he was NOT born in England yet gave everything for England!
I wish him well for the future.
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Owen Hargreaves Performance/Goal
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posted on 22/9/11
comment by Boris 'Inky' Gibson (U5901) posted 4 minutes ago
Macca, it wasn't the most testing of games but he looked confident and reasonably fit.
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Cheers
Interesting to read he wasn't holding back in his tackling. Seems his head is back right, something he struggled with at United
Gutting he pulled his hamstring v Wolves last season. I only heard he was in the starting like up as I pulled off the M602. I nearly crashed ffs
The only trouble I forsee is that Hargo's recovery period seems ridiculous after sustaining an injury. More or less 6 months to recover from a hamstring injury doesn't bode well
Time will tell
posted on 22/9/11
Many players when they have finished their contract are allowed to carry on training with their former club until they find a new one.
I don't accept Hargreaves was viewed as a disruptive influence. So I would have to question; who amongst the rag hierarchy turfed him out?
It's only my opinion, but that seems a bit shameful x
posted on 22/9/11
I'm delighted for the lad, to be honest.
posted on 22/9/11
I think this could turn out to be the best bit of business Bobby has done for City.
Though it goes against everything I believe in I have to say thank you to Utd for letting us have him for nothing
Cheers
posted on 22/9/11
X (U4074)
I can't imagine Hargreaves to be a disruptive influence either. I'm not sure what the ins and outs of it are. Perhaps the owners are tired of paying for his physio and decided enough is enough? I'm sure someone knows, but they aren't saying anything.
We got him for nothing on a pay to play deal, so he's not costing us very much right now. In terms of value for money, he gave us a good hour and a goal, so he's a complete bargain!
posted on 22/9/11
Good luck to the lad, but I'll sow my ass if he's not injured in the very near future
posted on 22/9/11
Mixed feelings: It reminds me a bit of the time (eeh when I were a lad!) Denis Law "back-heeled" United into the second division. That had to be the biggest case of mixed feelings ever.
posted on 22/9/11
"I haven't a clue why we would let him go if he is fit again"
Agreed. He is exactly the type of player we were looking for over the summer.
I really don't see the logic in keeping hold of, and paying him for 3 years when he's injured. Then when we have the opportunity to keep him for free, and only pay him when he play's we offload him. Utter madness IMO.
I have a sneaky suspicion he'll come back to haunt us this season...
posted on 22/9/11
Denis Law "back-heeled" United into the second division.
***
but he didn't.
posted on 22/9/11
"but he didn't."
True. The misconception around this exists because on the morning of the United-City game, it was still mathematically possible for United to avoid relegation. They were 3 points behind Birmingham with 2 games left to play (Birmingham had one game left). And because of an inferior goal difference to Birmingham, United effectively needed two wins and for Birmingham to lose their final game.
United knew that they had to beat City to stand a chance of staying up. But it transpired that Birmingham won their last game anyway, meaning that even if United had beaten City, they would have still been relegated.
So it is incorrect to state that Law's goal sent United down. What isn't incorrect to state was that at the time the game was being played, the players (and probably most, if not all, of the fans) would have no idea how the Birmingham game was playing out. It's for this reason that Law was so distraught after scoring his goal. To him (and everyone else in Old Trafford), at that precise moment in time it felt as though he had effectively relegated United.
Hence why a lot of significance was placed upon Law's goal. Hence why the misconception about its actual significance exists for many.
posted on 22/9/11
No he didn't they were already down, but another nail in the coffin didn't hurt.
posted on 22/9/11
I will chose to believe it sent them down! It gives me warm happy feelings
posted on 22/9/11
It's chiselled into my memory as the goal that sent them down and always will be.
posted on 22/9/11
As a United fan. I can honestly say I'm happy for the guy. He really had to take City's offer and I hope he can get his career back on track.
Saying that, I wouldn't mind him never winning another medal (unless it's with England).
posted on 23/9/11
Im very happy to see him back playing again. Awesome goal too for his return. It was almost written in the stars!
He was an exceptional talent when i first saw him playing for Bayern Munich.
It'll be fitting if he played against his former club - a club where his career took off.
I hope the best is yet to come from him.
He was my favourite England player at the 2006 World Cup. His desire, hunger, determination, will to win.
The best thing about him was he was NOT born in England yet gave everything for England!
I wish him well for the future.
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