comment by Hengy is prem proven (U9129)
posted 51 minutes ago
Yea not like there’s 6 weeks left to sort is there
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not the point

In an ideal world, we'd be have player join us in Oz from the start to get used to AngeBall and his team mates.

Otherwise we go back to the years of signing players late in the window, they're out of sync and then we all moan that they're schitt

Think Hengy was being sarcastic tbf.

This has all the hallmarks of another Levy fook up.

i interpreted it as him saying there's nothing to worry about yet as we have plenty of time to get the right players at CB

I'm saying, it's one thing getting the right player in right at the end of the window, but in an ideal scenario, we get them in before the oz tour starts

May be a misinterpretation on my part in which case.... Hengy you need to be more clear son

i see DanKP has just come out with what everyone wants to hear

comment by Phenomenonecoglou (U20037)
posted 20 minutes ago
i see DanKP has just come out with what everyone wants to hear
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Yep wonder how Bayern feel about it? lol

Ange Postecoglou made it clear to Harry Kane that he plans to shape a #thfc side that produces exciting, attacking football and would like him to be part of it. | @SkySportsNews

Oh SkySports news saying something positive about Kane. The nay sayers though...

Kyle #Walker has agreed to join @FCBayern from @ManCity: details. @NathGissing

Great move for him

Anyone else heard mutterings that the hold up in the Van De Ven deal is because Liverpool have entered the race having received funds from a potential Fabinho sale? If this is true, then feck Levy. If we lose out on him, it's the same bullshiiiiiiit bartering that has opened the door to Liverpool.

On an even more depressing note, Spurs are now pressing ahead with a deal for Lenglet. You couldn't make it up. We score as many goals as those in the top four last year but concede as many as those in the drop zone. It's perfectly clear where our weaknesses are. We shouldn't be anywhere near Lenglet to be honest. I know exactly why this is happening too. We can't shift the defenders we have on our books because they're unwilling to take a pay cut to move on, which then makes it impossible to replace them without blowing a hole in the wage bill.

Signing Lenglet just keeps the cycle going. He'll be another we'll need to shift in a couple of years. That's the problem with high wages. If they're on long contracts and big money, they're impossible to get rid.

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 20 hours, 40 minutes ago
There are fears at #thfc that Liverpool could hijack their move for Micky van de Ven. | @NizaarKinsella

Their new Dof know all about him. Plus they have dutch players there but we would give more game time.
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Yeah it was covered in here yday

Most of the Lenglet rumours are from Spain. Barca desperate to get rid.

I'm perfectly happy for us to sign Lenglet as an alternative option, as long he's not first choice. He did 'ok' last season in what was a mess of a team with poor leadership. I think he'd be alright as an option.

But if he's our new first choice signing instead of VDV or Tapsoba then I'm burning WHL to the ground.

Lenglet has got no pace, not good enough to defend in a two or even a high line.

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 12 minutes ago
Most of the Lenglet rumours are from Spain. Barca desperate to get rid.
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and Levy waiting for them to get desperate, at least he has experience in PL

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 3 minutes ago
Lenglet has got no pace, not good enough to defend in a two or even a high line.
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We have no idea of the plans of Ange, he used players like CCV at Celtic, different league off course

comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 12 minutes ago
Most of the Lenglet rumours are from Spain. Barca desperate to get rid.
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and Levy waiting for them to get desperate, at least he has experience in PL
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So does Sanchez. What's your point?

comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted less than a minute ago
comment by Dave&Danny COYH (U4428)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by LukaBrasi Postecoglou on the lefthand side (U22178)
posted 12 minutes ago
Most of the Lenglet rumours are from Spain. Barca desperate to get rid.
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and Levy waiting for them to get desperate, at least he has experience in PL
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So does Sanchez. What's your point?
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All the other rumours dont

https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2023/jul/14/tapsoba-or-van-de-ven-comparing-tottenhams-targets-at-centre-back

Interesting article.

Also,
1.4 and 1.6 tackles per 90 minutes seems pretty low or is that just me?!

I don't see how you can be 'close', as Fab said 3 days ago, and not have it done by now unless there's a problem. The only problem that could have occurred given his price tag was reachable, is if another club has come in.

I'm just staggered that we've signed 3 new players and none of them sort out the shiiiiitest defence in the league. Absolutely staggering. It's classic Levy lowballing and delaying. Despite the fact that Ange is happy to work with what's given him, much like Poch was, it still means ultimately Conte was right, if a bit stupid to make it public.

Ultimately, the owners lack the ambition to win. I've come to realisation now that no matter who is in charge, the ceiling is measured by the owners' ambition and lack thereof. The bare minimum is a VDV/Tapsoba and one other or preferably both. My instincts tell me VDV is the one. His stats aren't as good but I think he has the higher ceiling.

#Tottenham have joined Levi Colwill's list of admirers.

Levi Colwill features on Spurs shortlist along with Micky Van de Ven.
@NizaarKinsella

comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 26 minutes ago
https://www.theguardian.com/football/who-scored-blog/2023/jul/14/tapsoba-or-van-de-ven-comparing-tottenhams-targets-at-centre-back

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Comparisons are good but VDV is much younger than Tapsoba and has the potential to be much better in terms of stats going forward.

Another thing to consider, correct me if I am wrong, is haven't both been playing in a three man defence with wing backs?

It's such a hard one to call on the CB front because many years ago the same enthusiasm we're seeing now for VDV and Tapsoba was on display when we signed Sanchez. There's absolutely no guarantee on any transfer. We might see plenty of videos of VDV running the length of the pitch to defend his goal or another showing a last ditch tackle but whilst that shows drive and determination, it also shows a tendency to vacate his position or going to ground too often. There's ways of spinning everything. The reason why I'd always regard Rio Ferdinand as one of the best defenders in the league is because he was rarely caught out, rarely out of position and hardly ever went to ground, much in the same way Virgil VD does now. It doesn't make for the best show reel as it doesn't show someone heroically throwing their body on the line but it's what makes the best defenders and it's the reason why the last two will always beat John Terry for me. Same for older players like Paul McGrath. The very best don't look spectacular.

comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Interesting article.

Also,
1.4 and 1.6 tackles per 90 minutes seems pretty low or is that just me?!
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Depends what your role is as CB, someone like Konsa will be closer to 0.6 tackles p90 for example.

VVD had 0.78 tackles p90 last season. Alderweireld never averaged more than 1.45 tackles p90 in his time at Spurs (since they recorded the stat).

With Romero being the aggressive one this makes sense

comment by Edinspuroglou (U1109)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by NotSoMagicJuande (U1913)
posted 1 hour, 28 minutes ago
Interesting article.

Also,
1.4 and 1.6 tackles per 90 minutes seems pretty low or is that just me?!
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Depends what your role is as CB, someone like Konsa will be closer to 0.6 tackles p90 for example.

VVD had 0.78 tackles p90 last season. Alderweireld never averaged more than 1.45 tackles p90 in his time at Spurs (since they recorded the stat).

With Romero being the aggressive one this makes sense
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also important to remember this stat doesn't include interceptions, blocks, clearances etc. When you think about it you don't tend to see CB's making a huge amount of tackles during a game.

Tottenham 11 26 & under

Vicario - 26

Porro - 23
Romero - 25
Roden - 25
Udogie - 20

Bissouma - 26
Ndombele - 26
Maddison - 26

Kulusevski - 23
Richarlison - 26
Solomon - 23

Subs -
Spence - 22
Emerson - 24
Reguilón - 26
Sessegnon - 23
Skipp - 22
Bentancur - 26
Gill - 22