To be fair Gomez is worth more than nothing.
Yep completely agree. I love it when we develop players and in today's market place it's important to do so.
Brewster is Sturridge replacement which I'm more than happy with.
Hoever has been played at RB preseason already and in his few minutes in the FA cup vs Wolves hd was excellent at CB.
Larouci could be a massive find as I don't see where we can sign quality who is happy not to get game time at LB.
Utd have just spent £18m on James who has a season not nearly as good as Wilson.
I'm not bothered about City, we can't control what they do, but if you want a full squad of quality you have to have 4 that have come through the club under theage of 21 anyway.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
To be fair Gomez is worth more than nothing.
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I feel like he anticipates that there'll be less pressure on him now that he delivered a trophy...a big one too. It's a shame that he still doesn't understand our fanbase and it's fickleness. Thankfully the match going fans aren't THAT bad.
Anyways if you're right he'll probably feel like he can now integrate some youth in a side that's confident and well oiled to what's expected on the pitch, which puts less pressure on the youth coming in. There's been countless times in the past 2 or 3 seasons where he could've given some youth players a few minutes here and there but he just seemed to never take the opportunity.
If ever you feel there was a season for him to try this, it's this coming season. Brewster looks nailed on to be in the first team squad and Hoever, like you say, looks like the one with the most potential.
The rest have to be pretty special because I still think Woodburn showed more potential than any of those in your list and he's nowhere to be seen these days.
Think this season might be a season too early for Duncan.
Flipside is...a small run of bad results and these kids will be nowhere to be seen (the squad ain't so fleshed out after that either) and will most probably miss a season of development. It's a tricky situation.
My view is:
Gk: alisson, mingolet, kelleher. Thats pretty good.
Rb: Taa, gomez, ki (and half the midfield it seems)
LB: robertson, Milner. space for youth if they convince klopp
RCB: Gomez, Matip
LCB: VVD, Lovren, Van der berg.
No 6: fabinho, winjnaldum, henderson
No 8s keita, ox, henderson, milner, lallana, windy, jones
No 9: firmino, brewster
LW: mane origi
RW: salah, shaqiri
That's a full squad, even more than in terms of people queuing for a game. We can debate quality up top but thats IMO a separate discussion as klopp's given origi a new contract.
I still see Wilson, woodburn and kent going off on loan again. Theres certainly not time for them all so if one even stayed i'd be surprised. Grujic was loaned out and not even held for preseason. Ojo was too.
In the first league cup game if we get a decent draw for once... we could play There's a case that all five i named could get a game in league cup.
All we've done is make a 1st and 2nd 11.
Alissson
TAA gomez VVD Robertson
Ox Fabinho henderson
Salah firmino mane
Mingolet
Ki Matip Lovren milner
Lallana Windy Kieta
Shaqiri brewster origi
Even at this point there's just 2 kids in there and klopp likes both a lot. The jones', larouci's and duncan's of this world are hoping to just get a game or two and develop to point where u23s is no good to them.
It's easy to get carried away with youth players but Hoever looks old beyond his years in terms of ability and mentality and he's still a lad physically.
Larouci is kind of the opposite, physically imposing but his technique hasn't overly impressed me in the two friendlies so far which isn't anywhere near enough time to judge him properly though.
Brewster needs first team games. He's got the knack of being in the right place at the right time to score. Duncan seems to as well but I'd be surprised if we saw any of them other than Brewster and Hoever making a senior appearance this season.
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
I feel like he anticipates that there'll be less pressure on him now that he delivered a trophy...a big one too. It's a shame that he still doesn't understand our fanbase and it's fickleness. Thankfully the match going fans aren't THAT bad.
Anyways if you're right he'll probably feel like he can now integrate some youth in a side that's confident and well oiled to what's expected on the pitch, which puts less pressure on the youth coming in. There's been countless times in the past 2 or 3 seasons where he could've given some youth players a few minutes here and there but he just seemed to never take the opportunity.
If ever you feel there was a season for him to try this, it's this coming season. Brewster looks nailed on to be in the first team squad and Hoever, like you say, looks like the one with the most potential.
The rest have to be pretty special because I still think Woodburn showed more potential than any of those in your list and he's nowhere to be seen these days.
Think this season might be a season too early for Duncan.
Flipside is...a small run of bad results and these kids will be nowhere to be seen (the squad ain't so fleshed out after that either) and will most probably miss a season of development. It's a tricky situation.
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Yes theres a few time where a kid could have been used but Klopp has to bring the right talent in. its no good pushing the wrong one.
He pushed gomez when he got fit and pushed TAA. He's waited for brewster.
he's kept jones close, imo for a reason.
Hell people were going mad he wouldn't give shaqiri more time! peopel will never be satisfied.
you are right on woodburn in terms of potential at an age but he's not settled into any of his loans and he strikes me as another Suso. He's a kid without a clear best position, a technical type player but without the raw pace of others. So he's struggled to get a game to showcase himself. Sometimes these players need more time. I would struggle to identify where he will get a game for us this season TBH and thats an issue though his preseason so far has not been too bad as a showcase to klopp he can do more than one role.
Suso made it in italy and found his way. You have to wonder if woodburn needs a different league and has the maturity to deal with that.
Might I add that if only Brewster and Hoever come through this season...we would've done exceptionally well.
comment by Alisson Wonderland (Formerly LGT) (U13718)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's easy to get carried away with youth players but Hoever looks old beyond his years in terms of ability and mentality and he's still a lad physically.
Larouci is kind of the opposite, physically imposing but his technique hasn't overly impressed me in the two friendlies so far which isn't anywhere near enough time to judge him properly though.
Brewster needs first team games. He's got the knack of being in the right place at the right time to score. Duncan seems to as well but I'd be surprised if we saw any of them other than Brewster and Hoever making a senior appearance this season.
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would agree with all of above. I feel cups is where it will be at for some. For sure the squad situation says we won't see much of players unless they really grab the chance.
Jones is prime example.
I honestly feel Woodburn could've been trained & modelled on Coutinho's playing style. Possesses similar balance and close ball control. Not pacy like Salah or Mane but enough acceleration and dribbling ability to go past players...similar to Firmino as well.
It's too late now but I really feel like we missed an opportunity with him. Maybe his attitude isn't right.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Might I add that if only Brewster and Hoever come through this season...we would've done exceptionally well.
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Agreed.
If we get a really good season we won't have too many injuries to front 3 and so there just won't be time for lots of opportunities to fall in kid's laps.
I'd have no issue to today with Ki playing 10 prem games even at 17.... not v top 6 but the others no issue.
Brewster will get minutes here and there and may play home games where we rest a player or two.
the rest will have to force their way past two players which won't happen without injuries.
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
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Fabinho became key last year but you are right about keita and ox comes back so I really don't see any midfield signings.
Ox gives us some cover at RW but also no 8.
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 53 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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the only player i've not seen before is Larouci. I'm not basing anything on preseason bar him. he's a step above lewis.
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comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
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Nothing wrong with rating youngsters and yes Brewster is a good alternative to Sturridge. We have been here before where we get excited by youth but then they don't make it. Woodburn being casing point. Many before that too.
It is a huge gamble going into the season with same squad. More games this year and fans don't want another season where we sacrifice the cups. Klopp is making those bizzare statements like Ox is a new signing, Lallana at 6. Klopp was happy to run with Karius last season before howlers in pre season forced his hand.
Transfer committe needs to be proactive.
Its not a huge gamble at all if your squad is a 97 point team and European Champions. It's a huge gamble if there are gaping holes in the squad and let's face it, there isnt.
I dont regard not having really expensive cover for Mane as that bad anyway.
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 57 minutes ago
I honestly feel Woodburn could've been trained & modelled on Coutinho's playing style. Possesses similar balance and close ball control. Not pacy like Salah or Mane but enough acceleration and dribbling ability to go past players...similar to Firmino as well.
It's too late now but I really feel like we missed an opportunity with him. Maybe his attitude isn't right.
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I don't think its too late but you are right about woodbrun playing CM/wing. he might just need to grow into it,
I suspect Woodburn may like the good life a bit. To not be able to get into the Shef Utd side is a bad sign.
RCB: Gomez appears to be the majority choice, but with me, Matip, towards the end of the season, and in particular the home game against Barca and also the final itself, was outstanding.
Joe, obviously through no fault of his own, is injury-prone. What we need is consistency, and I say that Joel has given us that already.
He would be my no.1 choice for that position.
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 15 minutes ago
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
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Nothing wrong with rating youngsters and yes Brewster is a good alternative to Sturridge. We have been here before where we get excited by youth but then they don't make it. Woodburn being casing point. Many before that too.
It is a huge gamble going into the season with same squad. More games this year and fans don't want another season where we sacrifice the cups. Klopp is making those bizzare statements like Ox is a new signing, Lallana at 6. Klopp was happy to run with Karius last season before howlers in pre season forced his hand.
Transfer committee needs to be proactive.
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a) theres no "committee" there's a technical director and a manager and scouting team. That committee was burned to the ground with an effigy of balotelli.
b) you are absolutely correct on youths, many factors including luck and timing come into play for them to get that chance and take it.
c) i don't see who klopp's comments are bizarre. He's saying brewster is his pick. Hes saying ox is back so no need for attacking CM. He's been elusive on left full this morning i think, he's mentioned one position. the press talked more about lallana at no 6 as a jorginho than klopp did.
Its not bizarre if you write out the full list and see he's got a big squad and think... hmm.. he's obviously got faith in these lads.
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
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Fabinho was brilliant, Keita was average 5.5-6 out of 10 but his last few games before injury he was easily 8/10 he was hustling and covering without fear bailing out team mates starting to look like the player we signed from Leipzig. Tbf to him after a few games he started getting into a rhythm and confidence growing every time but then got a little injury that put him out.
Its more down to Ox and Lallana imo, we need them both to rediscover the form they were in before injuries. Personally i felt Lallana was past it and i'd rather see Jones or Wilson in his place but Klopp loves him so... Ox had a double ACL injury and was already injury prone before that anyway so Klopp placing so much faith in these seeing them as "new signings" or w.e crap, can't say i share his faith.
If we do fack all or very little this summer and drop back to chasing top 4 as opposed tto City because of it ill be hugely disappointed. Klopp and the owners will come in for criticism and rightly so. Regardless of winning the CL to get to this point only to risk losing all progress made is reckless in my view.
The gap to City has only increased this season, last season our squad cost difference was 240 million, now we are 320 million off.
Also if Ox or whoever are like new signings for us City have their own too, Mendy/De Bruyne for example.
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posted on 18/7/19
To be fair Gomez is worth more than nothing.
posted on 18/7/19
Yep completely agree. I love it when we develop players and in today's market place it's important to do so.
Brewster is Sturridge replacement which I'm more than happy with.
Hoever has been played at RB preseason already and in his few minutes in the FA cup vs Wolves hd was excellent at CB.
Larouci could be a massive find as I don't see where we can sign quality who is happy not to get game time at LB.
Utd have just spent £18m on James who has a season not nearly as good as Wilson.
I'm not bothered about City, we can't control what they do, but if you want a full squad of quality you have to have 4 that have come through the club under theage of 21 anyway.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 10 minutes ago
To be fair Gomez is worth more than nothing.
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very good
posted on 18/7/19
I feel like he anticipates that there'll be less pressure on him now that he delivered a trophy...a big one too. It's a shame that he still doesn't understand our fanbase and it's fickleness. Thankfully the match going fans aren't THAT bad.
Anyways if you're right he'll probably feel like he can now integrate some youth in a side that's confident and well oiled to what's expected on the pitch, which puts less pressure on the youth coming in. There's been countless times in the past 2 or 3 seasons where he could've given some youth players a few minutes here and there but he just seemed to never take the opportunity.
If ever you feel there was a season for him to try this, it's this coming season. Brewster looks nailed on to be in the first team squad and Hoever, like you say, looks like the one with the most potential.
The rest have to be pretty special because I still think Woodburn showed more potential than any of those in your list and he's nowhere to be seen these days.
Think this season might be a season too early for Duncan.
Flipside is...a small run of bad results and these kids will be nowhere to be seen (the squad ain't so fleshed out after that either) and will most probably miss a season of development. It's a tricky situation.
posted on 18/7/19
My view is:
Gk: alisson, mingolet, kelleher. Thats pretty good.
Rb: Taa, gomez, ki (and half the midfield it seems)
LB: robertson, Milner. space for youth if they convince klopp
RCB: Gomez, Matip
LCB: VVD, Lovren, Van der berg.
No 6: fabinho, winjnaldum, henderson
No 8s keita, ox, henderson, milner, lallana, windy, jones
No 9: firmino, brewster
LW: mane origi
RW: salah, shaqiri
That's a full squad, even more than in terms of people queuing for a game. We can debate quality up top but thats IMO a separate discussion as klopp's given origi a new contract.
I still see Wilson, woodburn and kent going off on loan again. Theres certainly not time for them all so if one even stayed i'd be surprised. Grujic was loaned out and not even held for preseason. Ojo was too.
In the first league cup game if we get a decent draw for once... we could play There's a case that all five i named could get a game in league cup.
All we've done is make a 1st and 2nd 11.
Alissson
TAA gomez VVD Robertson
Ox Fabinho henderson
Salah firmino mane
Mingolet
Ki Matip Lovren milner
Lallana Windy Kieta
Shaqiri brewster origi
Even at this point there's just 2 kids in there and klopp likes both a lot. The jones', larouci's and duncan's of this world are hoping to just get a game or two and develop to point where u23s is no good to them.
posted on 18/7/19
It's easy to get carried away with youth players but Hoever looks old beyond his years in terms of ability and mentality and he's still a lad physically.
Larouci is kind of the opposite, physically imposing but his technique hasn't overly impressed me in the two friendlies so far which isn't anywhere near enough time to judge him properly though.
Brewster needs first team games. He's got the knack of being in the right place at the right time to score. Duncan seems to as well but I'd be surprised if we saw any of them other than Brewster and Hoever making a senior appearance this season.
posted on 18/7/19
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 7 minutes ago
I feel like he anticipates that there'll be less pressure on him now that he delivered a trophy...a big one too. It's a shame that he still doesn't understand our fanbase and it's fickleness. Thankfully the match going fans aren't THAT bad.
Anyways if you're right he'll probably feel like he can now integrate some youth in a side that's confident and well oiled to what's expected on the pitch, which puts less pressure on the youth coming in. There's been countless times in the past 2 or 3 seasons where he could've given some youth players a few minutes here and there but he just seemed to never take the opportunity.
If ever you feel there was a season for him to try this, it's this coming season. Brewster looks nailed on to be in the first team squad and Hoever, like you say, looks like the one with the most potential.
The rest have to be pretty special because I still think Woodburn showed more potential than any of those in your list and he's nowhere to be seen these days.
Think this season might be a season too early for Duncan.
Flipside is...a small run of bad results and these kids will be nowhere to be seen (the squad ain't so fleshed out after that either) and will most probably miss a season of development. It's a tricky situation.
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Yes theres a few time where a kid could have been used but Klopp has to bring the right talent in. its no good pushing the wrong one.
He pushed gomez when he got fit and pushed TAA. He's waited for brewster.
he's kept jones close, imo for a reason.
Hell people were going mad he wouldn't give shaqiri more time! peopel will never be satisfied.
you are right on woodburn in terms of potential at an age but he's not settled into any of his loans and he strikes me as another Suso. He's a kid without a clear best position, a technical type player but without the raw pace of others. So he's struggled to get a game to showcase himself. Sometimes these players need more time. I would struggle to identify where he will get a game for us this season TBH and thats an issue though his preseason so far has not been too bad as a showcase to klopp he can do more than one role.
Suso made it in italy and found his way. You have to wonder if woodburn needs a different league and has the maturity to deal with that.
posted on 18/7/19
Might I add that if only Brewster and Hoever come through this season...we would've done exceptionally well.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Alisson Wonderland (Formerly LGT) (U13718)
posted 3 minutes ago
It's easy to get carried away with youth players but Hoever looks old beyond his years in terms of ability and mentality and he's still a lad physically.
Larouci is kind of the opposite, physically imposing but his technique hasn't overly impressed me in the two friendlies so far which isn't anywhere near enough time to judge him properly though.
Brewster needs first team games. He's got the knack of being in the right place at the right time to score. Duncan seems to as well but I'd be surprised if we saw any of them other than Brewster and Hoever making a senior appearance this season.
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would agree with all of above. I feel cups is where it will be at for some. For sure the squad situation says we won't see much of players unless they really grab the chance.
Jones is prime example.
posted on 18/7/19
I honestly feel Woodburn could've been trained & modelled on Coutinho's playing style. Possesses similar balance and close ball control. Not pacy like Salah or Mane but enough acceleration and dribbling ability to go past players...similar to Firmino as well.
It's too late now but I really feel like we missed an opportunity with him. Maybe his attitude isn't right.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 4 minutes ago
Might I add that if only Brewster and Hoever come through this season...we would've done exceptionally well.
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Agreed.
If we get a really good season we won't have too many injuries to front 3 and so there just won't be time for lots of opportunities to fall in kid's laps.
I'd have no issue to today with Ki playing 10 prem games even at 17.... not v top 6 but the others no issue.
Brewster will get minutes here and there and may play home games where we rest a player or two.
the rest will have to force their way past two players which won't happen without injuries.
posted on 18/7/19
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
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Fabinho became key last year but you are right about keita and ox comes back so I really don't see any midfield signings.
Ox gives us some cover at RW but also no 8.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 53 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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the only player i've not seen before is Larouci. I'm not basing anything on preseason bar him. he's a step above lewis.
posted on 18/7/19
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posted 22 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
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Nothing wrong with rating youngsters and yes Brewster is a good alternative to Sturridge. We have been here before where we get excited by youth but then they don't make it. Woodburn being casing point. Many before that too.
It is a huge gamble going into the season with same squad. More games this year and fans don't want another season where we sacrifice the cups. Klopp is making those bizzare statements like Ox is a new signing, Lallana at 6. Klopp was happy to run with Karius last season before howlers in pre season forced his hand.
Transfer committe needs to be proactive.
posted on 18/7/19
Its not a huge gamble at all if your squad is a 97 point team and European Champions. It's a huge gamble if there are gaping holes in the squad and let's face it, there isnt.
I dont regard not having really expensive cover for Mane as that bad anyway.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 57 minutes ago
I honestly feel Woodburn could've been trained & modelled on Coutinho's playing style. Possesses similar balance and close ball control. Not pacy like Salah or Mane but enough acceleration and dribbling ability to go past players...similar to Firmino as well.
It's too late now but I really feel like we missed an opportunity with him. Maybe his attitude isn't right.
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I don't think its too late but you are right about woodbrun playing CM/wing. he might just need to grow into it,
posted on 18/7/19
I suspect Woodburn may like the good life a bit. To not be able to get into the Shef Utd side is a bad sign.
posted on 18/7/19
RCB: Gomez appears to be the majority choice, but with me, Matip, towards the end of the season, and in particular the home game against Barca and also the final itself, was outstanding.
Joe, obviously through no fault of his own, is injury-prone. What we need is consistency, and I say that Joel has given us that already.
He would be my no.1 choice for that position.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - condoning assaults on inanimat... (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 21 minutes ago
People getting a hard on over a few pre season games against lower league teams. If we decide to stand still then it will be a mistake and we will end up with the chasing pack fighting for a top 4 spot.
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I dont think anyone is getting a hard on about preseason games. I rate Brewster and Hoever it's as simple as that and I dont see it as standing still either.
Ive said this a few times but Klopp has repeatedly said he wants to be in a position to sign genuine quality if they become available. If that means wsiting padt this window then so be it and Im fully behind bringing through youth.
We're not actually in good shape with the HG rule either, especially with the four trained at the club. The only answer to that is to develop fpir good players.
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Nothing wrong with rating youngsters and yes Brewster is a good alternative to Sturridge. We have been here before where we get excited by youth but then they don't make it. Woodburn being casing point. Many before that too.
It is a huge gamble going into the season with same squad. More games this year and fans don't want another season where we sacrifice the cups. Klopp is making those bizzare statements like Ox is a new signing, Lallana at 6. Klopp was happy to run with Karius last season before howlers in pre season forced his hand.
Transfer committee needs to be proactive.
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a) theres no "committee" there's a technical director and a manager and scouting team. That committee was burned to the ground with an effigy of balotelli.
b) you are absolutely correct on youths, many factors including luck and timing come into play for them to get that chance and take it.
c) i don't see who klopp's comments are bizarre. He's saying brewster is his pick. Hes saying ox is back so no need for attacking CM. He's been elusive on left full this morning i think, he's mentioned one position. the press talked more about lallana at no 6 as a jorginho than klopp did.
Its not bizarre if you write out the full list and see he's got a big squad and think... hmm.. he's obviously got faith in these lads.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 hour, 32 minutes ago
Not sure if this is remotely true (or makes sense!) but a couple of your big signings last season might act more like major signings for 2019/20 and those are Keita and Fabinho.
They were decent last year but this could be the year you really see what they can do
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Fabinho was brilliant, Keita was average 5.5-6 out of 10 but his last few games before injury he was easily 8/10 he was hustling and covering without fear bailing out team mates starting to look like the player we signed from Leipzig. Tbf to him after a few games he started getting into a rhythm and confidence growing every time but then got a little injury that put him out.
Its more down to Ox and Lallana imo, we need them both to rediscover the form they were in before injuries. Personally i felt Lallana was past it and i'd rather see Jones or Wilson in his place but Klopp loves him so... Ox had a double ACL injury and was already injury prone before that anyway so Klopp placing so much faith in these seeing them as "new signings" or w.e crap, can't say i share his faith.
If we do fack all or very little this summer and drop back to chasing top 4 as opposed tto City because of it ill be hugely disappointed. Klopp and the owners will come in for criticism and rightly so. Regardless of winning the CL to get to this point only to risk losing all progress made is reckless in my view.
The gap to City has only increased this season, last season our squad cost difference was 240 million, now we are 320 million off.
posted on 18/7/19
Also if Ox or whoever are like new signings for us City have their own too, Mendy/De Bruyne for example.
posted on 18/7/19
What City do is moot.
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