comment by Thörgen Kloppinson, First of mine own nameth, h'rald of demise, songbird of Asgard, defend'r/ protecteth'r of the weak and innocent, mast'r of disast'r, king of stingeth, dancing destroyeth'r and counteth of monte fisto (U1282)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
But you're the one tuning in? it's on our board
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Just shows what power I possess that I can do it on your board.

I run the thread and you tune in.
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But we're having other conversations on this thread itself...you keep running back here for the same nonsense. Addicted. Nobody wants you on the thread, or the forum by the sounds of it.

That's OK but if you didn't love me you wouldn't talk about me knowing I'll come back because of it.

If you don't love me then don't reply to this. I dare you.l, but you in won't. You want to have a pop at me then feign surprise when I inevitably pop back.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 12 minutes ago
Literally first game I watched winston, Barkley, kovacic, jorgino all looked good as did pulisic. Team looks to have a lot of energy, just need to trim it down and get rid of some of the poorer players it seems.

Interesting times, we've relied on hazard for so long.

Looking forward to opening day, got a good record against utd despite not winning up there in 6 or so years.

Mind you only 2 losses in that time.
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Yeh, not that I particularly want you to do well (!) but will be lovely to see a manager be given a chance to develop some younger players at Chelsea. Hasn't really happened for years.

Hazard is a massive loss and it'll take time to get used to that I think. But you are helped by United and Arsenal being in a bit of a strange situation as well I guess.
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yeah will be a nice suprise tbf, hazard is a massive loss but this year is a free hit imo. Frank can work some magic hopefully. It's such a shame about the injuries to RLC and CHo aswell as I feel they'd be in with a huge chance, especially RLC to cement himself as a chelsea regular. I hope they come back as strong , or stronger

"If you don't love me then don't reply to this. I dare you.l, but you in won't."

There it is.

Thorgen has a little chart in his bedroom, and he needs you to stop replying to mark this up as a win.

Nickasaurus (U9257)

That's the big question over Roman for me.

Ole will get 2-3 years to show what he can do, I've no doubt in that. It would have to be a catastrophe for him to be sacked sooner.

The unknown with Chelsea is the patience that Roman will have. You'd like to think he is intelligent enough to know what he's got himself into as a club owner now, but who knows?

Ole will get 2-3 years to show what he can do, I've no doubt in that. It would have to be a catastrophe for him to be sacked sooner.
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Doubt he’ll get three years. And it wouldn’t be catastrophic to sack him sooner if he’s proving not to be up to the job.

comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
Ole will get 2-3 years to show what he can do, I've no doubt in that. It would have to be a catastrophe for him to be sacked sooner.
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Doubt he’ll get three years. And it wouldn’t be catastrophic to sack him sooner if he’s proving not to be up to the job.
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Not actually what I said.

I said it would need to be a catastrophe for him to be sacked sooner than 2-3 years i.e. United would have to be utterly terrible.

Yeah sorry I didn’t read that properly. United being utterly terrible is hardly a stretch, to be fair.

I don’t even think we’d have to be for him to lose his job, though what constitutes terrible is a matter of opinion. But if we failed to qualify for the CL for two seasons but were playing good football and won a couple of trophies I think he’d still be sacked.

I think CL qualification is the basic remit for the Manchester United manager judging by how the club has operated the last few years.

Ed The King Woodward (U10026)

Agreed, it's a matter of opinion.

Personally I think he'd be given another year in the scenario you describe, but we'll see.

Part of that might depend how much money he spends.

If he's working with youth and reducing our wage bill then I suspect he'd get longer than if he's chucking out £200 million each summer.

That’s possible, but we are a heavily business focused club and missing out on CL monies is not something the club will be happy about. Especially with it bringing about a reduction in our Adidas sponsorship if we are out of it for two years or more.

A lot depends on the manager market as well. If Pochettino was open to moving to the club next summer, for example, I have no doubt the club would be all over it. It’s an unlikely scenario, but so much can change so quickly in football. And as we saw with LVG, failing to get CL and Mourinho being available put a stop on the initial plans we’d had.

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And there probably will be when he sacks Lampard.

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 2 hours, 7 minutes ago
The unknown with Chelsea is the patience that Roman will have. You'd like to think he is intelligent enough to know what he's got himself into as a club owner now, but who knows?
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Not that there is any evidence yet to suggest otherwise, but I think there has been valid reasons why we have chosen to dismiss the managers we have over the years.
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Maybe so, but it doesn’t take a lot of analysis to see that your club has had a very short term focus on recent years.

That has transmitted to managers and hence, no attempt at youth development.

Unless your owner changes his philosophy I don’t see how it can work for Lampard.

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Roman can still stick to that philosophy but not have the patience for Lampard to see it through. Or simply find someone that is better qualified to see it through to a level befitting where Chelsea should be.

Though I wouldn’t be surprised if he just shelves it in the next year or so and goes to Allegri with a few hundred million budget.

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comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 36 minutes ago
That is true. Although I think the change in philosophy (or attempt to) has been made with the appointment of Lampard and our former academy coaches.
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For the good of English football, I hope so.

Lots of talent lurking in those Chelsea halls, I’ve no doubt!

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Yeah I get what you mean. I was making two points really regarding the patience with Lampard and the change in philosophy from the top.

But like I said, I don’t think it’s unreasonable to suspect that Roman would go back on it and go with what has always worked for him.

Say what you want about Roman, but he knows how to run a successful football club.

comment by Sideshow (U11809)
posted 3 minutes ago
I would be surprised if we appointed Allegri. We would be falling into the same trap of hiring a manager whose ideas about transfer strategy and squad composition conflict with the boards.
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I don’t really agree with that. Allegri’s never been particularly idealistic when it comes to these things. Even during the clusterfack that was the Galliani regime he remained pretty cool on that front despite having all the good players sold and replaced with shiiiiit ones.

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He had to manage Kevin Constant.

Allegri loses his cool with players, officials and the media but I think he’s generally had good relationships with his board and their strategies. So on that front I’m not sure you’d be falling into the trap you think you’d be.

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I don’t think it’s ever really been the remit at his clubs. My point was how he’s usually behind the strategy of the board, even the disastrous Milan one, so I don’t see it blowing up in the same way it would with Mourinho or Conte.

I see what you are saying but my point about bringing in Allegri is due to Roman having a change of tact, so what you are suggesting with regard to the academy isn’t much of an issue in this regard anyway.

Not saying it will happen, and the next guy could be someone that better suits this current vision, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it did - especially if it doesn’t look like Chelsea are looking like competing for the biggest prizes.

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