If we lost Auba and Lacs we would be pretty facked. Depends if they are considered our best players I guess.
If we lost VVD and Salah/Mane, we'd get by I think. If we lost our fourth best player, Firmino as well as VVD, we'd make top four but not challenge.
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
I agree. Our squad is so poor we barely have one decent player for each position let alone two
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United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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No chance. Who would score, yet we will still concede.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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No chance. Who would score, yet we will still concede.
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Your front 6 I imagine would be something like this
Xhaka Torreira
Pepe Ceballos Ozil
Nelson
Whereas our front 6 would be something like
McT Matic Fred
Lingard Martial James
Your one edges it for me.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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I agree. Our squad is so poor we barely have one decent player for each position let alone two
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I’d say average/mediocre, rather than poor. I love the fact that we’re seeing youth but as I’ve said, and others have said, you want them to come into a side with some stalwarts, some established winners and club legends. It’s not really Solskjær’s fault we don’t have those, but there’s no doubt that our squad is deeply flawed - not enough goals and very little creativity for starters - and shipping out our best CB of the post-Ferguson era seems like another risk.
We could get third if a lot goes our way, but realistically I’d say sixth was likelier and lower still a distinct possibility. That’s not “whinging” as the OP says, just an honest and, I’d like to think, fairly objective summary of our position.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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So youd drop 2 places, us.no change.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
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And the FBs couldn't get forward as often.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
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So you agree VVD would be the bigger loss ?
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
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I’m fairly certain Salah, Origi and Firmino would be fine
Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
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Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
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And we’d be losing our main creative force in Pogba and our best striker. Liverpool would still score plenty of goals, we wouldn’t
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
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So you agree VVD would be the bigger loss ?
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Doesn’t really mean anything. They’re a much better side with Van Dijk than we are with Pogba, and they’d be a better side still if both players were sidelined for weeks. It does not mean our squad is stronger or that we’re better equipped to deal with it.
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Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
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And we’d be losing our main creative force in Pogba and our best striker. Liverpool would still score plenty of goals, we wouldn’t
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Is he our best striker?
And can Pereira not try the passes Pogba makes?
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posted on 29/8/19
Us, next question please
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If we lost Auba and Lacs we would be pretty facked. Depends if they are considered our best players I guess.
posted on 29/8/19
If we lost VVD and Salah/Mane, we'd get by I think. If we lost our fourth best player, Firmino as well as VVD, we'd make top four but not challenge.
posted on 29/8/19
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
posted on 29/8/19
United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I agree. Our squad is so poor we barely have one decent player for each position let alone two
posted on 29/8/19
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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No chance. Who would score, yet we will still concede.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by D'Jeezus Mackaroni (U1137)
posted 2 minutes ago
United are best placed to lose their best 2 players, because no one stands above the rest in their squad.
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You would compete better without Laca and Auba than we would without Pogba and Rash
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No chance. Who would score, yet we will still concede.
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Your front 6 I imagine would be something like this
Xhaka Torreira
Pepe Ceballos Ozil
Nelson
Whereas our front 6 would be something like
McT Matic Fred
Lingard Martial James
Your one edges it for me.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 55 seconds ago
I agree. Our squad is so poor we barely have one decent player for each position let alone two
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I’d say average/mediocre, rather than poor. I love the fact that we’re seeing youth but as I’ve said, and others have said, you want them to come into a side with some stalwarts, some established winners and club legends. It’s not really Solskjær’s fault we don’t have those, but there’s no doubt that our squad is deeply flawed - not enough goals and very little creativity for starters - and shipping out our best CB of the post-Ferguson era seems like another risk.
We could get third if a lot goes our way, but realistically I’d say sixth was likelier and lower still a distinct possibility. That’s not “whinging” as the OP says, just an honest and, I’d like to think, fairly objective summary of our position.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
posted on 29/8/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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So youd drop 2 places, us.no change.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 second ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
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And the FBs couldn't get forward as often.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
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So you agree VVD would be the bigger loss ?
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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Depends what you mean by as big a loss. We'd still finish top four. It would still be unlikely for you.
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Exactly
We’d have zero creativity whereas you could line up with Trent, Gomez, Matip and Robertson and be fine
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But no Mane
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I’m fairly certain Salah, Origi and Firmino would be fine
posted on 29/8/19
Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 minute ago
Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
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And we’d be losing our main creative force in Pogba and our best striker. Liverpool would still score plenty of goals, we wouldn’t
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 1 minute ago
Two? We’ve lost Smalling, Herrera, Sanchez and Lukaku - that’s basically the spine of our team.
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The OP doesn’t mean those
He genuinely thinks that with our current squad we’re better suited to lose our best two players than any other top 6 side in the same position. I’m assuming our current best two are Pogba and Rash.
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Obviously I was joking, but what you’ve said highlights the flaw, or one of them, with the OP’s argument. It’s really hard to say who our “best two” players are because they’re all much of a muchness, really. On paper you’d say De Gea and Pogba but the former has struggled a bit for a year now while the latter has never really torn up the league. I like Rashford but if he’s one of our best two it shows where we are. But who else? Martial? Wan-Bissaka?
City don’t count - De Bruyne gets injured and Bernardo comes in and is quality. Fernandinho is/would be a loss but they have Rodri. Liverpool can point to Salah and Virgil, two of the league’s standout performers in the last 18-20 months. Spurs lose Kane Son steps up to the plate.
Whichever way the OP spins it, we’re only arguing about how average our squad is compared to Arsenal and Chelsea, who have their own problems. But our “best two” players are harder to name than, say, Kante, as I’ve said above, before we even get onto arguing about who covers for them.
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I'm.not spinning anything. Thought it was an interesting question. Like you say, would us losing Pogba be as big a loss as Liverpool losing VVD? No.
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That’s not quite what I said, and even if it was it would be a criticism of Pogba more than praise of our squad. He’s nowhere near as influential for us as Van Dijk has been for Liverpool.
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So you agree VVD would be the bigger loss ?
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Doesn’t really mean anything. They’re a much better side with Van Dijk than we are with Pogba, and they’d be a better side still if both players were sidelined for weeks. It does not mean our squad is stronger or that we’re better equipped to deal with it.
posted on 29/8/19
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 minute ago
Losing 30 goals per season and the worlds best CB, with your attacking FBs having to defend more. Yeah.
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And we’d be losing our main creative force in Pogba and our best striker. Liverpool would still score plenty of goals, we wouldn’t
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Is he our best striker?
And can Pereira not try the passes Pogba makes?
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