comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Do you not think the health professionals who manage medicine supply chains (many of which work on a JiT capacity) know their own business?
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Thanks for taking a significant risk with our f*cking lives.
You people must REALLY hate foreigners.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Thanks for taking a significant risk with our f*cking lives.
You people must REALLY hate foreigners.
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I’m not taking any risks you dolt.
And keep your pathetic hate speeches for your own benefit.
You’re laughable and embarrassing at the same time but I’m pleased you get so angry so easily. It’s fun to see
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Wow, someone’s really angry today 🤣🤣🤣🤣
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
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I know,
A f*ck up of epic proportions.
You must be so proud.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
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I know,
A f*ck up of epic proportions.
You must be so proud.
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Why?
Do you think I’m responsible?
I didn’t realise I had so much influence.
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
comment by VOF - are we there yet? (U17124)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Wow, someone’s really angry today 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
Sorry that I don’t find a threat to our way of life funny.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
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I know you keep saying it which just continues to demonstrate your utter stupidity.
No. I wouldn’t be happy at any child’s death for any reason whatsoever.
To even ask that question of anyone beggars belief.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
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Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
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I know you keep saying it which just continues to demonstrate your utter stupidity.
No. I wouldn’t be happy at any child’s death for any reason whatsoever.
To even ask that question of anyone beggars belief.
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Will you be happy when we are all eating chlorinated chicken and sub standard food with rat hairs, rat sh*t and dead maggots in it?
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
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Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
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Hope they’ll be no shortage of soap.
That’s a lot of blood the Brexiters will have to wash from their hands.
What's the title where this conversation going?
Has Mr Corbyn outlined any framework to give football back to fans? Or is it a "sweetener"?
Will you be happy when we are all eating chlorinated chicken
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Just out of interest what is your issue with chlorinated chicken?
Is it something you have been told to have an issue with?
As it is a step into the unknown, ie nobody has left the EU before, nobody really knows what is likely to happen in the event of no deal, or even if there is a deal.
There are no experts, how can there be, it's not happened before. Just educated guesses.
But with the competence of this (or most) governments in mind, it won't go smoothly.
Luckily we have a generally good civil service who will smooth out the major bumps, and business will take a pragmatic view of what's best for them, so no change there.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
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Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
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“could”
Look. I acknowledge the risk and both sides antics have led us to where we are.
Despite all of this and whoever anyone wants to blame if we ended up no deal and the border controls were so rigorously enforced which clearly resulted in life threatening situations by not prioritising or coming up with some way of fast tracking through customs these types oh medicines then hell mend them for eternity.
Because no amount of finger pointing and “rules” applications will allow any side to take any stance other than they allowed it to happen.
And no the EU shouldn’t just be able to sit back and say “them’s the rules” after decades of trading to and fro with the same suppliers and importers. It’s not like we’re an unknown quantity for goodness sake.
No side will come out of that with any degree of morality were this such the case.
By the way, Mr Corbyn, football is not yours to give to anybody.
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posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Do you not think the health professionals who manage medicine supply chains (many of which work on a JiT capacity) know their own business?
posted on 7/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Thanks for taking a significant risk with our f*cking lives.
You people must REALLY hate foreigners.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 9 minutes ago
Crikey.
Nobody has categorically said this will happen. They’ve put it down as a significant risk and since then everyone has been working on it. Most of Ireland’s imports come via the UK so don’t you think the EU will try and resolve this as will we?
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Thanks for taking a significant risk with our f*cking lives.
You people must REALLY hate foreigners.
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I’m not taking any risks you dolt.
And keep your pathetic hate speeches for your own benefit.
You’re laughable and embarrassing at the same time but I’m pleased you get so angry so easily. It’s fun to see
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Wow, someone’s really angry today 🤣🤣🤣🤣
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
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I know,
A f*ck up of epic proportions.
You must be so proud.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Nope.
And guess what?
Neither is the EU.
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I know,
A f*ck up of epic proportions.
You must be so proud.
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Why?
Do you think I’m responsible?
I didn’t realise I had so much influence.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by VOF - are we there yet? (U17124)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 16 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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You think this country is prepared for a no deal?
We can’t even get our trains to run on time, deal with an inch of snow or take down a toy drone at an airport.
Your Brexit Death Cultists are f*cking absurd.
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Wow, someone’s really angry today 🤣🤣🤣🤣
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If you’re not angry, you’re not paying attention.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
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The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
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They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
posted on 7/10/19
Sorry that I don’t find a threat to our way of life funny.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
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I know you keep saying it which just continues to demonstrate your utter stupidity.
No. I wouldn’t be happy at any child’s death for any reason whatsoever.
To even ask that question of anyone beggars belief.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
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Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
posted on 7/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They don’t care if people die.
All they care about is Blue Passports and ruining the lives of Johnny Foreigner, whatever the cost.
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Every time you post you make yourself look more and more like some mad angry zealot.
It’s hilarious 😂
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Like I said before, will you still be laughing when children are dying of cancer?
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I know you keep saying it which just continues to demonstrate your utter stupidity.
No. I wouldn’t be happy at any child’s death for any reason whatsoever.
To even ask that question of anyone beggars belief.
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Will you be happy when we are all eating chlorinated chicken and sub standard food with rat hairs, rat sh*t and dead maggots in it?
posted on 7/10/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
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That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
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Hope they’ll be no shortage of soap.
That’s a lot of blood the Brexiters will have to wash from their hands.
posted on 7/10/19
What's the title where this conversation going?
Has Mr Corbyn outlined any framework to give football back to fans? Or is it a "sweetener"?
posted on 7/10/19
Will you be happy when we are all eating chlorinated chicken
............................
Just out of interest what is your issue with chlorinated chicken?
Is it something you have been told to have an issue with?
posted on 7/10/19
As it is a step into the unknown, ie nobody has left the EU before, nobody really knows what is likely to happen in the event of no deal, or even if there is a deal.
There are no experts, how can there be, it's not happened before. Just educated guesses.
But with the competence of this (or most) governments in mind, it won't go smoothly.
Luckily we have a generally good civil service who will smooth out the major bumps, and business will take a pragmatic view of what's best for them, so no change there.
posted on 7/10/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 11 minutes ago
I am saying that I am allowing my beliefs to be shaped by the experts, who in this case are pretty unanimous on the matter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That’s fair enough. So you believe that insulin and cancer treatment drugs will be unavailable (as suggested by the OP who I challenged) and that people will die?
Or are you saying that in the event of a no deal with lack of preparation that there is a significant risk some drugs won’t be as readily available which in turn could result in avoidable pain or death?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The experts are saying more or less the latter.
It just depends on whether people are prepared to accept the risk that any given medicine, group of medicines, or treatments won’t be 100% ready.
I don’t believe that’s an acceptable risk to take personally. Others will have different views.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Nah. I agree with you on that wholeheartedly. I sincerely hope and dare I say trust that both sides would show some common sense on this type of life threatening risk and ensure that medicines can carry on being imported and exported as an exception to no rule.
Nobody in their right mind would gamble on people’s lives and as we travel through this mess I get more angry at how we’ve failed to handle things and wasted years with no planning on some mad assumption that everyone else would just roll over.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Unfortunately it's an inevitable consequence of erecting trade and regulatory barriers.
If consignments of medical supplies are held up/delayed, no amount of pragmatism will get the consignments to their destination any quicker.
When practically every single health body and medicine agency in the UK come out as one urging the government to take no-deal off the table as it would (in their words) “devastate” the NHS I would tend to accept their views.
The statement said:
"A no-deal could cause significant disruption to the supply of medicine, lasting up to six months. Many medicines, including life-saving agents for cancer diagnosis and therapy, cannot be stockpiled and, for those that can, stockpiles could run out. These kinds of shortages and delays can be fatal. No responsible government should take that risk."
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“could”
Look. I acknowledge the risk and both sides antics have led us to where we are.
Despite all of this and whoever anyone wants to blame if we ended up no deal and the border controls were so rigorously enforced which clearly resulted in life threatening situations by not prioritising or coming up with some way of fast tracking through customs these types oh medicines then hell mend them for eternity.
Because no amount of finger pointing and “rules” applications will allow any side to take any stance other than they allowed it to happen.
And no the EU shouldn’t just be able to sit back and say “them’s the rules” after decades of trading to and fro with the same suppliers and importers. It’s not like we’re an unknown quantity for goodness sake.
No side will come out of that with any degree of morality were this such the case.
posted on 7/10/19
By the way, Mr Corbyn, football is not yours to give to anybody.
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