The club should be offering the fans counselling for the trauma of the car crash performances over the last (insert a number from 1-10) seasons 😠https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50229350
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
Judged on his performances this season one cannot make a case for him being an automatic first team starter let alone Captain. This was very poor judgement from Emery.
The real problem is Emery, our performances and the risk of losing either Laca or Auba or both by their not signing new contracts. We badly need a new manager to inject some life into this club and to give the fans something to smile about. If we were playing like Leicester or Chelsea no one would care about Xhaka right now.,
comment by CanULeiva (U18359)
posted 28 minutes ago
Am I only one who thinks Xhaka didn't do much wrong?
I know he's an awful footballer but all he did was say fack off
Why the outrage? It was ballsy to do that and I don't really see the issue
He could have cried like a little bee hatch but nobody wanted to see that
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I assume most of the reaction is simply people hoping that's the end of his Arsenal career because he's a dreadful footballer rather than being particularly bothered by his reaction
Fans: FK off you useless you are so FKING sht, just fk off
Xhaka: oh fk off
Fans: how dare you! Apologise!
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 2 minutes ago
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
Judged on his performances this season one cannot make a case for him being an automatic first team starter let alone Captain. This was very poor judgement from Emery.
The real problem is Emery, our performances and the risk of losing either Laca or Auba or both by their not signing new contracts. We badly need a new manager to inject some life into this club and to give the fans something to smile about. If we were playing like Leicester or Chelsea no one would care about Xhaka right now.,
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Good comment
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
He should apologise to rwanda
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 4 minutes ago
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
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He was responsible for the equalizer. And in fact was hiding most of the game.
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by CanULeiva (U18359)
posted 28 minutes ago
Am I only one who thinks Xhaka didn't do much wrong?
I know he's an awful footballer but all he did was say fack off
Why the outrage? It was ballsy to do that and I don't really see the issue
He could have cried like a little bee hatch but nobody wanted to see that
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I assume most of the reaction is simply people hoping that's the end of his Arsenal career because he's a dreadful footballer rather than being particularly bothered by his reaction
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Fair enough
He's so bad though so this makes more sense although ive only seen the incident once
Doesn't help when pundits start saying he should never play for Arsenal again based on his actions and not his football
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Facking hell
How do you afford that?
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
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Ironic cheers are not abuse. The booing only really started after his reaction.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
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Ironic cheers are not abuse. The booing only really started after his reaction.
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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This is true
Arsenal fans have form for this. Remember poor eboue, look at him now. And I remember the game theo got crazy abuse until he scored two. I also remember the game between liverpool and arsenal were again xhaka was slated until he scored due to mignolet flap. His goal celebration that day was shusshing the crowd but no one said anything.
I remember us liverpool fans giving konchesky proper cheers when he was subbed. Sometimes the player is made the scapegoat for the manager.
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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I like the lettering format. I'll join in:
a) You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club. It isn't just fans in the ground and sponsors. If you think the fans in the ground cover your player's wages in their entirety then you don't have much of a grasp on modern football. Or are you saying the income from fans only goes to paying Xhaka's wages.
b) Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people. You can question their performances, but targeted public abuse and humiliation from a group will have an effect on anyone mentally. People don't have the right to go and abuse someone and then expect an apology if they react and the fact Arsenal fans think that is acceptable; is pretty pathetic.
I personally feel alot of the frustration was probably aimed at Emery as well.
He told Arsenal fans to "fack off". He doesn't need counselling, he needs a raise.
That's what Campbell did to spurs fans.
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 30 seconds ago
Arsenal fans have form for this. Remember poor eboue, look at him now. And I remember the game theo got crazy abuse until he scored two. I also remember the game between liverpool and arsenal were again xhaka was slated until he scored due to mignolet flap. His goal celebration that day was shusshing the crowd but no one said anything.
I remember us liverpool fans giving konchesky proper cheers when he was subbed. Sometimes the player is made the scapegoat for the manager.
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I remember Wolves fans ironically cheering the substitution of Karl Henry when we were last in the Premier League. I thought that was pretty disgraceful too and would have found our fans pathetic had they got upset if Henry had reacted to it.
Don't think the fans should apologise, don't think he should apologise. Should be stripped of the captaincy and sold ASAP though.
comment by Tu Meke Mesut - Better Call Raul (U3732)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't think the fans should apologise, don't think he should apologise. Should be stripped of the captaincy and sold ASAP though.
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I think you should all have to arrive at the ground early this weekend, pass a mic around and apologise one by one whilst Xhaka stands in the centre circle.
Then give Wolves the 3 points.
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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I like the lettering format. I'll join in:
a) You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club. It isn't just fans in the ground and sponsors. If you think the fans in the ground cover your player's wages in their entirety then you don't have much of a grasp on modern football. Or are you saying the income from fans only goes to paying Xhaka's wages.
b) Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people. You can question their performances, but targeted public abuse and humiliation from a group will have an effect on anyone mentally. People don't have the right to go and abuse someone and then expect an apology if they react and the fact Arsenal fans think that is acceptable; is pretty pathetic.
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You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club
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Ok tell me one that is not connected to fans! We are not a oil backed club by an oligarch/sheikh to hide their poor behaviour.
Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people.
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Fans are not everyday people. They are fanatics. However they are also stakeholders of the club. And as such booing should mean far more to the player. I don't personally partake because I don't see how it will help the player perform. However I will defend to the hilt of anyone who does. It is the only way fans can let a player know their displeasure with his performances. Players live in a bubble. This not like it used to be 30 years ago when players could mingle with the fans and sometimes even drink in the same pub. (in fact you could even meet the likes of Pires and Vieira in cafes in Hampstead high street)
Xhaka was not abused as you are making out. There were a few ironic cheers and it was his reaction that made it far worse.
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Arsenal to offer Xhaka counselling
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posted on 30/10/19
The club should be offering the fans counselling for the trauma of the car crash performances over the last (insert a number from 1-10) seasons 😠https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50229350
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
posted on 30/10/19
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
Judged on his performances this season one cannot make a case for him being an automatic first team starter let alone Captain. This was very poor judgement from Emery.
The real problem is Emery, our performances and the risk of losing either Laca or Auba or both by their not signing new contracts. We badly need a new manager to inject some life into this club and to give the fans something to smile about. If we were playing like Leicester or Chelsea no one would care about Xhaka right now.,
posted on 30/10/19
comment by CanULeiva (U18359)
posted 28 minutes ago
Am I only one who thinks Xhaka didn't do much wrong?
I know he's an awful footballer but all he did was say fack off
Why the outrage? It was ballsy to do that and I don't really see the issue
He could have cried like a little bee hatch but nobody wanted to see that
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I assume most of the reaction is simply people hoping that's the end of his Arsenal career because he's a dreadful footballer rather than being particularly bothered by his reaction
posted on 30/10/19
Fans: FK off you useless you are so FKING sht, just fk off
Xhaka: oh fk off
Fans: how dare you! Apologise!
posted on 30/10/19
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 2 minutes ago
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
Judged on his performances this season one cannot make a case for him being an automatic first team starter let alone Captain. This was very poor judgement from Emery.
The real problem is Emery, our performances and the risk of losing either Laca or Auba or both by their not signing new contracts. We badly need a new manager to inject some life into this club and to give the fans something to smile about. If we were playing like Leicester or Chelsea no one would care about Xhaka right now.,
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Good comment
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
posted on 30/10/19
He should apologise to rwanda
posted on 30/10/19
comment by sammy nelson sbum (U6244)
posted 4 minutes ago
To put this into perspective Xhaka was not actually having a bad game. The ironic cheers were a culmination of the stress and frustration felt by a lot of Arsenal fans.He just happened to be the spark which lit the fuse.
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He was responsible for the equalizer. And in fact was hiding most of the game.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by CanULeiva (U18359)
posted 28 minutes ago
Am I only one who thinks Xhaka didn't do much wrong?
I know he's an awful footballer but all he did was say fack off
Why the outrage? It was ballsy to do that and I don't really see the issue
He could have cried like a little bee hatch but nobody wanted to see that
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I assume most of the reaction is simply people hoping that's the end of his Arsenal career because he's a dreadful footballer rather than being particularly bothered by his reaction
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Fair enough
He's so bad though so this makes more sense although ive only seen the incident once
Doesn't help when pundits start saying he should never play for Arsenal again based on his actions and not his football
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Facking hell
How do you afford that?
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
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Ironic cheers are not abuse. The booing only really started after his reaction.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Idontlikemondays (U6377)
posted 3 hours, 19 minutes ago
He isn't going to apologise
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Why should he? The fans aren't going to apologise to him.
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Why should fans apologise to him? We pay his wages and have every right to criticize.
£120k a week.
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Well you pay a fraction of his wages to go and watch. Doesn't mean you can abuse him whenever you want and expect nothing back though.
I'm sure my custom at my local Tesco pay part of their employees wage. It doesn't mean I can expect to go in and abuse a staff member because I don't like the way he stacks shelves, the expect to get nothing back.
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Ironic cheers are not abuse. The booing only really started after his reaction.
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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This is true
posted on 30/10/19
Arsenal fans have form for this. Remember poor eboue, look at him now. And I remember the game theo got crazy abuse until he scored two. I also remember the game between liverpool and arsenal were again xhaka was slated until he scored due to mignolet flap. His goal celebration that day was shusshing the crowd but no one said anything.
I remember us liverpool fans giving konchesky proper cheers when he was subbed. Sometimes the player is made the scapegoat for the manager.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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I like the lettering format. I'll join in:
a) You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club. It isn't just fans in the ground and sponsors. If you think the fans in the ground cover your player's wages in their entirety then you don't have much of a grasp on modern football. Or are you saying the income from fans only goes to paying Xhaka's wages.
b) Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people. You can question their performances, but targeted public abuse and humiliation from a group will have an effect on anyone mentally. People don't have the right to go and abuse someone and then expect an apology if they react and the fact Arsenal fans think that is acceptable; is pretty pathetic.
posted on 30/10/19
I personally feel alot of the frustration was probably aimed at Emery as well.
posted on 30/10/19
He told Arsenal fans to "fack off". He doesn't need counselling, he needs a raise.
posted on 30/10/19
That's what Campbell did to spurs fans.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by The Goofy One (U16087)
posted 30 seconds ago
Arsenal fans have form for this. Remember poor eboue, look at him now. And I remember the game theo got crazy abuse until he scored two. I also remember the game between liverpool and arsenal were again xhaka was slated until he scored due to mignolet flap. His goal celebration that day was shusshing the crowd but no one said anything.
I remember us liverpool fans giving konchesky proper cheers when he was subbed. Sometimes the player is made the scapegoat for the manager.
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I remember Wolves fans ironically cheering the substitution of Karl Henry when we were last in the Premier League. I thought that was pretty disgraceful too and would have found our fans pathetic had they got upset if Henry had reacted to it.
posted on 30/10/19
Don't think the fans should apologise, don't think he should apologise. Should be stripped of the captaincy and sold ASAP though.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Tu Meke Mesut - Better Call Raul (U3732)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't think the fans should apologise, don't think he should apologise. Should be stripped of the captaincy and sold ASAP though.
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I think you should all have to arrive at the ground early this weekend, pass a mic around and apologise one by one whilst Xhaka stands in the centre circle.
Then give Wolves the 3 points.
posted on 30/10/19
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Jenius99 (U4918)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Tamwolf (U17286)
posted 20 seconds ago
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Ironic cheers are a form of abuse though. You really think that won't affect him mentally?
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a) As a singular fan I do pay a percentage. However as a base we pay it in entirety. Or do you think sponsors give millions to players so that they can sell their goods to an empty stadium? Xhaka petulance has been evident for 4 years now. You don't get much of agreement between 60k dispirit people in a stadium until its so obvious that even a blind man can see it.
b) If cheering or booing affects him that much he should not have become a professional footballer. It goes with the territory as do millions of pounds for kicking a ball around the park for 90 mins a week.
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I like the lettering format. I'll join in:
a) You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club. It isn't just fans in the ground and sponsors. If you think the fans in the ground cover your player's wages in their entirety then you don't have much of a grasp on modern football. Or are you saying the income from fans only goes to paying Xhaka's wages.
b) Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people. You can question their performances, but targeted public abuse and humiliation from a group will have an effect on anyone mentally. People don't have the right to go and abuse someone and then expect an apology if they react and the fact Arsenal fans think that is acceptable; is pretty pathetic.
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You missed out a lot of other sources of income for a football club
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Ok tell me one that is not connected to fans! We are not a oil backed club by an oligarch/sheikh to hide their poor behaviour.
Footballers are human. Just because they earn a good wage or are a public figure does not mean that they should be open to abuse from everyday people.
--------------------------------------
Fans are not everyday people. They are fanatics. However they are also stakeholders of the club. And as such booing should mean far more to the player. I don't personally partake because I don't see how it will help the player perform. However I will defend to the hilt of anyone who does. It is the only way fans can let a player know their displeasure with his performances. Players live in a bubble. This not like it used to be 30 years ago when players could mingle with the fans and sometimes even drink in the same pub. (in fact you could even meet the likes of Pires and Vieira in cafes in Hampstead high street)
Xhaka was not abused as you are making out. There were a few ironic cheers and it was his reaction that made it far worse.
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