4 million children living in poverty in the 5th richest nation in the world.

We can do better.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
got a ask yourself where we'd be without austerity.

It wasn't a choice taken simply to cut state spending and taxes, it was a necessary measure to prevent financial disaster. it's like some one in a household being made redundant, you simply cannot go on spending at the same rate and painful time will follow. What would our debt be now if we just borrowed.

You can argue about the depth of the cuts but let's not pretend that these decisions were taken without reason, that the pain was avoidable. .

People seem to fail to understand the implications of national debt. we pay more on debt than education. The idea that we just borrow borrow borrow and someone down the line will pay for it is utterly irresponsible.

What is striking is that under Brown we experienced the financial crisis but despite years of growth and good times the national finances were a mess when the crisis hit. For me, while they were not responsible for the crisis they contributed to the depth of the actioner needed in the aftermath.

it is this financial mismanagement that scares nw more than any of the fake news. Brown was a cautious man, JC & Co. want to take our borrowing to the levels of the 70s when it lead to a financial crisis when we were bailed out by the IMF. But hey they're promising free stuff so let's vote for them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument for austerity Britain (the reality we got under the Tories, not the idea of austerity) is decimated by the fact that the wealthiest people were unaffected and in fact got substantially richer.

Brown did phenomenal work after the US subprime mortgage crisis sent much of the world into recession.

After that the Tory government came in and went about diverting public funds into the hands of lackluster private entities spending more than any opposition government combined while ruining many services. That is the reality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fact is that wealthy people get richer in all circumstances because their wealth isnt taxed, their income is and this is the same everywhere.

as for Browns great work i am not sure how true that is, but perhaps his great work was too little too late. Under his time things were rosy but that still didnt stop him from maxing out the country's credit cards and selling our gold on the cheap to spend more more more.

The perception. was the food times would never end and like this Labour policies the idea that we borrow massively now and things will come good and well pay it back later js equally flawed. What if we go into global recession. Germany on the brink of recession. Such levels of borrowing will see interest rates rise. If these 2 factors combine, and it is very possible, then what?

*good times

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
4 million children living in poverty in the 5th richest nation in the world.

We can do better.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

agreed!

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
got a ask yourself where we'd be without austerity.

It wasn't a choice taken simply to cut state spending and taxes, it was a necessary measure to prevent financial disaster. it's like some one in a household being made redundant, you simply cannot go on spending at the same rate and painful time will follow. What would our debt be now if we just borrowed.

You can argue about the depth of the cuts but let's not pretend that these decisions were taken without reason, that the pain was avoidable. .

People seem to fail to understand the implications of national debt. we pay more on debt than education. The idea that we just borrow borrow borrow and someone down the line will pay for it is utterly irresponsible.

What is striking is that under Brown we experienced the financial crisis but despite years of growth and good times the national finances were a mess when the crisis hit. For me, while they were not responsible for the crisis they contributed to the depth of the actioner needed in the aftermath.

it is this financial mismanagement that scares nw more than any of the fake news. Brown was a cautious man, JC & Co. want to take our borrowing to the levels of the 70s when it lead to a financial crisis when we were bailed out by the IMF. But hey they're promising free stuff so let's vote for them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument for austerity Britain (the reality we got under the Tories, not the idea of austerity) is decimated by the fact that the wealthiest people were unaffected and in fact got substantially richer.

Brown did phenomenal work after the US subprime mortgage crisis sent much of the world into recession.

After that the Tory government came in and went about diverting public funds into the hands of lackluster private entities spending more than any opposition government combined while ruining many services. That is the reality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fact is that wealthy people get richer in all circumstances because their wealth isnt taxed, their income is and this is the same everywhere.

as for Browns great work i am not sure how true that is, but perhaps his great work was too little too late. Under his time things were rosy but that still didnt stop him from maxing out the country's credit cards and selling our gold on the cheap to spend more more more.

The perception. was the food times would never end and like this Labour policies the idea that we borrow massively now and things will come good and well pay it back later js equally flawed. What if we go into global recession. Germany on the brink of recession. Such levels of borrowing will see interest rates rise. If these 2 factors combine, and it is very possible, then what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fact you believe the wealthy are taxed on their income renders this discussion pointless tbh

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.

Did you know that if you have $1bn, if you spent $10k a day it would take you 250 years to spend it all

So come on Joe Lewis, you cant have too many years left start splashing the cash

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
got a ask yourself where we'd be without austerity.

It wasn't a choice taken simply to cut state spending and taxes, it was a necessary measure to prevent financial disaster. it's like some one in a household being made redundant, you simply cannot go on spending at the same rate and painful time will follow. What would our debt be now if we just borrowed.

You can argue about the depth of the cuts but let's not pretend that these decisions were taken without reason, that the pain was avoidable. .

People seem to fail to understand the implications of national debt. we pay more on debt than education. The idea that we just borrow borrow borrow and someone down the line will pay for it is utterly irresponsible.

What is striking is that under Brown we experienced the financial crisis but despite years of growth and good times the national finances were a mess when the crisis hit. For me, while they were not responsible for the crisis they contributed to the depth of the actioner needed in the aftermath.

it is this financial mismanagement that scares nw more than any of the fake news. Brown was a cautious man, JC & Co. want to take our borrowing to the levels of the 70s when it lead to a financial crisis when we were bailed out by the IMF. But hey they're promising free stuff so let's vote for them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The argument for austerity Britain (the reality we got under the Tories, not the idea of austerity) is decimated by the fact that the wealthiest people were unaffected and in fact got substantially richer.

Brown did phenomenal work after the US subprime mortgage crisis sent much of the world into recession.

After that the Tory government came in and went about diverting public funds into the hands of lackluster private entities spending more than any opposition government combined while ruining many services. That is the reality.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Fact is that wealthy people get richer in all circumstances because their wealth isnt taxed, their income is and this is the same everywhere.

as for Browns great work i am not sure how true that is, but perhaps his great work was too little too late. Under his time things were rosy but that still didnt stop him from maxing out the country's credit cards and selling our gold on the cheap to spend more more more.

The perception. was the food times would never end and like this Labour policies the idea that we borrow massively now and things will come good and well pay it back later js equally flawed. What if we go into global recession. Germany on the brink of recession. Such levels of borrowing will see interest rates rise. If these 2 factors combine, and it is very possible, then what?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The fact you believe the wealthy are taxed on their income renders this discussion pointless tbh
----------------------------------------------------------------------

The fact you label all wealthy as tax dodgers shows your prejudice, so there is no point debating with you.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.

The NHS is for sale.

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------

in what world would this country chose to pay more for medicines.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------

in what world would this country chose to pay more for medicines.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
One in which trade agreements with the US require them too. Ones that the Tories have already started agreeing to...

comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies

comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 52 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It’s in Country Life, just next to the section on moat cleaning

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says he who is promoting the false 'Tories will sell the NHS' rubbish.

It's the same thing as the £350m per week to the NHS rubbish from the Leave campaign.

comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says he who is promoting the false 'Tories will sell the NHS' rubbish.

It's the same thing as the £350m per week to the NHS rubbish from the Leave campaign.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But there is documented proof of them negotiating it?

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Says he who is promoting the false 'Tories will sell the NHS' rubbish.

It's the same thing as the £350m per week to the NHS rubbish from the Leave campaign.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But there is documented proof of them negotiating it?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There is documented proof of it being asked for, and it being discussed. Unless you can prove in quotes any intention of us actually agreeing to sell the NHS then this is just yet more fake news.

Please prove me wrong.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 38 seconds ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
----------------------------------------------------------------------
NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The NHS is for sale.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Fake news.


----------------------------------------------------------------------
A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
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Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies
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Because that’s all he (and every other Tory) has.

Lies lies and more lies.

Never trust a Tory or anyone who votes for them.

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comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
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Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
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NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
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The NHS is for sale.
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Fake news.


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Why do you think the Government voted against a motion to ring fence (carve out) NHS procurement from a potential UK/US FTA?

Johnson himself used his position in the foreign office to host a pro NHS privatisation think tank event, and publically backed their (privatisation) objectives.

You can mention 'fake news' all you like but your comments fly in the face of the available evidence.

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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 38 seconds ago
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
And yes The NHS IS for sale.

Wake the f*ck up you sheep.
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Just checked Exchange & Mart the DFS winter sale and the Argos catalogue

There's no NHS for sale anywhere

so I think you are telling fibs
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NHS pharma procurement has been established US trade policy for years.
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The NHS is for sale.
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Fake news.


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A more accurate thing to say might be "NHS funds are for sale to the US Pharmaceutical industry where for a nice advisory role after their political career is over a Tory politician will sign over billions in NHS funding locked into paying way over the market rate for medicines"

But that doesn't quite have the same ring to it I guess
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There's only one party that has ever 'sold off' parts of the NHS, and that's Labour.
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I guess you're talking about PFI which was in fact started by Major, made worse by Blair then made even worse by following Tory governments or are you talking about something else?
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The only party that CREATED The NHS was Labour.
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Yeah, and that's by far the greatest achievement of the Labour party in this country and for that I applaud them.

Has absolutely nothing to do with this election though, as that same party are the only ones with a track record of actually privatising areas of the NHS.

That's a cold hard truth the Corbynistas of this world can't accept.
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Why are you lying? Utter cold hard lies
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Because that’s all he (and every other Tory) has.

Lies lies and more lies.

Never trust a Tory or anyone who votes for them.
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Labour have proven to be exceptionally trustworthy however

The NHS is for sale.