comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 minute ago
Brexit needs to be done because it’s a boring issue now.
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Definitely top 5 "Worst reasons for going ahead with Brexit."
If people voted that you had to get stabbed in the face, and then a bunch of people started arguing about whether or not to go ahead with it, whether it was what was best for you, how exactly to go about performing the stabbing... You wouldn't just say "Sod it, I'm bored of all the arguing, go ahead and stab away" would you
Maybe you would, I dunno
I have no sympathy for people who voted Tory and end up suffering. In fact it’s justice.
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The Tory manifesto was so vague. They can do a lot of sinister things which they didn't specify in detail. Then claim that's what the electorate voted for. Its disappointing overall.
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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He pretty much has - he's said he won't resign until a new leader is elected. Bit weird, I'll grant you, but there's local elections in May 2020 so he'll be long gone before then.
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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Yeah he needs to go
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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He pretty much has - he's said he won't resign until a new leader is elected. Bit weird, I'll grant you, but there's local elections in May 2020 so he'll be long gone before then.
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I don't think Corbyn lingering around will do Labour any favours.
Won't be long, he's having a reflection period first to think about how the feck he managed to not beat Boris Johnson in an election after 9 years of Tories dragging us down. Actually, his reflection period could take a while.
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
The problem is it’s such a contentious issue that it has many meanings to different people. Here we are three and a half years later and we still don’t know what leaving the EU will look like and what the ramifications for the country will be.
Yes the majority, at the time, vote to leave but is that still the case?
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 seconds ago
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
The problem is it’s such a contentious issue that it has many meanings to different people. Here we are three and a half years later and we still don’t know what leaving the EU will look like and what the ramifications for the country will be.
Yes the majority, at the time, vote to leave but is that still the case?
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The majority voted to leave, yes, but there certainly wasn't a majority that all agreed on the terms on which they wanted to leave.
Which is why a binary in/out referendum was the biggest constitutional balls-up of my lifetime
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 20 seconds ago
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
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Can't help but picture the end of Finding Nemo when thinking about Brexit officially being 'done'.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/142/233/897.gif
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
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Not even lying Elvis but either I simply don't understand your post or I just think it's incredibly flawed. My IQ is just fine too thanks. I went to a Tory grammar school after all.
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first advisory, non-binding vote, which was only allowed to stand because the Courts had no power to nullify an advisory referendum, hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
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Fixed it for ya
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
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Not even lying Elvis but either I simply don't understand your post or I just think it's incredibly flawed. My IQ is just fine too thanks. I went to a Tory grammar school after all.
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Yeh, whatever. Bored of you now.
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first advisory, non-binding vote, which was only allowed to stand because the Courts had no power to nullify an advisory referendum, hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
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Fixed it for ya
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That would be relevant if the PM hadn't stated the people would be heard and that the results of the referendum would be adhered to.
Civil unrest isn’t as damaging as a destitute society.
The Tories making this a proxy referendum was a con. Though I can’t say I’m surprised, conning is what they do. And people buy it hook, line and sinker.
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
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Are both sides made up of the same kinds of people?
If the people were to be heard he’d have had a referendum on his deal.
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
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To be clear, this isn't intended as intellectual snobbery. It's based on the fact that 2nd-referendum protests have been enormous - over a million taking to the streets for People's Vote in October - compared to Leave protests which have only mustered numbers in the tens of thousands.
I'm not even saying that Remainers are more politically active or anything. It's just a question of logistics. Leave voters are primarily older, and either very wealthy or very poor working class. Not much in the middle, and those aren't groups that tend to communicate well together to organise marches.
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posted on 13/12/19
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 1 minute ago
Brexit needs to be done because it’s a boring issue now.
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Definitely top 5 "Worst reasons for going ahead with Brexit."
If people voted that you had to get stabbed in the face, and then a bunch of people started arguing about whether or not to go ahead with it, whether it was what was best for you, how exactly to go about performing the stabbing... You wouldn't just say "Sod it, I'm bored of all the arguing, go ahead and stab away" would you
Maybe you would, I dunno
posted on 13/12/19
I have no sympathy for people who voted Tory and end up suffering. In fact it’s justice.
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The Tory manifesto was so vague. They can do a lot of sinister things which they didn't specify in detail. Then claim that's what the electorate voted for. Its disappointing overall.
posted on 13/12/19
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
posted on 13/12/19
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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He pretty much has - he's said he won't resign until a new leader is elected. Bit weird, I'll grant you, but there's local elections in May 2020 so he'll be long gone before then.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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Yeah he needs to go
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by RedLeyland (U3775)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
Why on earth has Corbyn not gone yet.
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You'd think you'd resign wouldn't you
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He pretty much has - he's said he won't resign until a new leader is elected. Bit weird, I'll grant you, but there's local elections in May 2020 so he'll be long gone before then.
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I don't think Corbyn lingering around will do Labour any favours.
posted on 13/12/19
Won't be long, he's having a reflection period first to think about how the feck he managed to not beat Boris Johnson in an election after 9 years of Tories dragging us down. Actually, his reflection period could take a while.
posted on 13/12/19
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
The problem is it’s such a contentious issue that it has many meanings to different people. Here we are three and a half years later and we still don’t know what leaving the EU will look like and what the ramifications for the country will be.
Yes the majority, at the time, vote to leave but is that still the case?
posted on 13/12/19
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 11 seconds ago
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
The problem is it’s such a contentious issue that it has many meanings to different people. Here we are three and a half years later and we still don’t know what leaving the EU will look like and what the ramifications for the country will be.
Yes the majority, at the time, vote to leave but is that still the case?
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The majority voted to leave, yes, but there certainly wasn't a majority that all agreed on the terms on which they wanted to leave.
Which is why a binary in/out referendum was the biggest constitutional balls-up of my lifetime
posted on 13/12/19
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 20 seconds ago
What specifically does ‘get Brexit done’ mean?
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Can't help but picture the end of Finding Nemo when thinking about Brexit officially being 'done'.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/142/233/897.gif
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
posted on 13/12/19
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
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Not even lying Elvis but either I simply don't understand your post or I just think it's incredibly flawed. My IQ is just fine too thanks. I went to a Tory grammar school after all.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by wearethefamous Jose-hotspurs (U19211)
posted 1 hour, 30 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Kenny Jackett (U1145)
posted 6 minutes ago
but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first advisory, non-binding vote, which was only allowed to stand because the Courts had no power to nullify an advisory referendum, hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
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Fixed it for ya
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 48 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
We should focus on brexit and get it done but not what Johnson said particularly which is that we should focus on brexit and get it done.
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Here is my original post in full:
There must be a lot of remainers hurting this morning. They keep going on about a second referendum, but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place. I think that the results last night are a strong indication that this would be the case. There has been a lot of talk in the press and polls about how opinion had swung to remain since the referendum, but that doesn't reflect what I have experienced in in real life. Time for all the bickering and pro-remain propaganda to stop now. We just need to focus on finally getting Brexit done so that we can refocus as a country. Hopefully a decent labour leader will emerge, or perhaps a new party will be formed that properly represents the masses, as we really don't have anyone at the moment.
Have a read of it and see if you can fathom in your tiny little mind why it doesn't equate to Boris' 'Get Brexit Done' slogan. If you read hard enough, particularly the last sentence, you might even see that I make it quite clear that I don't support Boris (or any other party leader).
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Not even lying Elvis but either I simply don't understand your post or I just think it's incredibly flawed. My IQ is just fine too thanks. I went to a Tory grammar school after all.
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Yeh, whatever. Bored of you now.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
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comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
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comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
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but my feeling has always been that the country would vote to leave again should a second referendum take place.
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Why?
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Because I know a lot of people that didn't vote at the referendum who would vote (and vote leave) at the second referendum. I don't know a single person that voted to leave and who has changed their mind. I do however know a few that voted remain, but who would vote leave the at a second referendum, as they think that is the correct thing to do democratically, as they believe the first referendum should be honoured.
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My sister voted remain but believes in democracy and would not vote again.. She's got morals... Time for these people who have stopped brexit time and time again to take responsibility for the last Yr of fk ups
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I take it she won't vote in the next General Election then. Morals, innit
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Why, are the results of this General Election not being implemented?
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The results of the referendum certainly aren't, since no-one agrees on what was being voted on.
2.5 years since last GE. People are allowed to change their minds because more relevant facts have come to light.
3.5 years since last referendum. People aren't allowed to change their minds even though more relevant facts have come to light.
Are you able to explain how offering MORE choices to the voting populace is anti-democratic?
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Because the first advisory, non-binding vote, which was only allowed to stand because the Courts had no power to nullify an advisory referendum, hasn't been implemented.
The last GE has.
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Fixed it for ya
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That would be relevant if the PM hadn't stated the people would be heard and that the results of the referendum would be adhered to.
posted on 13/12/19
Civil unrest isn’t as damaging as a destitute society.
The Tories making this a proxy referendum was a con. Though I can’t say I’m surprised, conning is what they do. And people buy it hook, line and sinker.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
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Are both sides made up of the same kinds of people?
posted on 13/12/19
If the people were to be heard he’d have had a referendum on his deal.
posted on 13/12/19
comment by Amanda Hugginkiss (U11574)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by FieldsofAnfieldRd (U18971)
posted 5 minutes ago
“ Because the first vote hasn't been implemented.“
Which was?
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You know what it was.
I would agree with you that the referendum and the options available was flawed though. I just don't see how you can now hold a second referendum without there being civil unrest.
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I understand your point, but I think you vastly overestimate how much Leave voters would care.
You could equally make the same argument about civil unrest among the half of the country who feel they've been deprived of a second referendum - well, a first referendum based on full facts and [presumably] legal campaigning - but Remainers haven't rioted either.
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To be clear, this isn't intended as intellectual snobbery. It's based on the fact that 2nd-referendum protests have been enormous - over a million taking to the streets for People's Vote in October - compared to Leave protests which have only mustered numbers in the tens of thousands.
I'm not even saying that Remainers are more politically active or anything. It's just a question of logistics. Leave voters are primarily older, and either very wealthy or very poor working class. Not much in the middle, and those aren't groups that tend to communicate well together to organise marches.
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