Would be livid with last night to be honest. Lost a couple, need to find confidence, League is done so why the feck would you not put your strongest side out and go for it.
Only reason i can think is fear, the fear that if his full side didn't beat Chelsea confidence would hit rock bottom.
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
And let’s not forget we once eliminated the best Arsenal side ever with a midfield of Rafael, O’Shea, Park and Fabio.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
What is worrying is how ineffective they’ve been in defeat. Got their danger men on and didn’t have a shot on target after the 31st minute.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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The side that finished the game was pretty much full strength wasn't it????
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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Aside from Firmino, Salah, Henderson, TAA and Allison it was, wasn’t it? Which is basically what I said? My point being that you put out a strong side. The last 20 mins you were two players short of full strength.
Not really and I'm not sure what 20 mins will do when 2-0 down anyway.
Alisson starts I doubt we lose in fact. Throw in a couple of teenagers. A guy new to the league and Origi instead of Salah away at Chelsea and you'll get beaten.
Liverpool haven’t been that god a cup side the last decade, surprisingly. Two in the decade is it? League Cup in 2012 and CL last season.
Even Lallana is not exactly a regular
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Liverpool haven’t been that god a cup side the last decade, surprisingly. Two in the decade is it? League Cup in 2012 and CL last season.
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That's the furthest we've been in the FA cup under Klopp and I think as far at all in the cup since 2006 or something 2012.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even Lallana is not exactly a regular
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I still think Klopp put out a strong side. The point I’m failing to make is that I feel he did take the match seriously. A non-football fan wouldn’t have been able to tell that Williams and Jones aren’t first team regulars,
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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Why did Klopp risk injury to 3 out of his first choice back 4 and the likes of Mane if he is not interested in winning the tie.
Why risk injury to VVD Gomez or Robertson a week before a vital CL tie if you are not interested in winning the FA cup.
Klopp played a strong side he thought was capable of winning last nights game
Must have been a while since Liverpool had such a barren decade for trophies.
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 48 minutes ago
Yes because Wigan got relegated.
Diafol, but I’m not talking about devaluing the cup I’m talking about it devaluing the quality of the CL.
I think the winners getting a CL spot is a terrible idea. Whether people like it or not the CL place is a bigger reward than the FA Cup, I don’t see why a team winning six games should take precedence over a team doing consistently well in a 38 game season. Luckily it’ll never happen.
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I understand the devaluing the CL point but I don't think that would come to pass anyway. I'm pretty certain at this present time that a team finishing 6th and winning the FA Cup is just as capable of competing as a team in 4th.
Maybe I am a romantic but as a fan I'd look back much more fondly on an FA Cup win than finishing 4th. I think providing an incentive could give those teams who choose to field a weaker team ordinarily the kick to go full strength for the possible reward.
The play offs are an example of teams not necessarily getting the reward based on league merit.
All about opinions I know but I think it would be great.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not really and I'm not sure what 20 mins will do when 2-0 down anyway.
Alisson starts I doubt we lose in fact. Throw in a couple of teenagers. A guy new to the league and Origi instead of Salah away at Chelsea and you'll get beaten.
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Why risk it? To go through to the next round obviously and even if Klopp did do that, which I doubt, he was wrong.
Yeah I don’t agree with the play offs either. I don’t think rewarding the FA Cup with a CL place would add anymore romance to it anyway, and we’ll never find out.
I think a lot can be done by the PL and FL to reignite the FA cup
Firstly there should be a 50/50 split in prize/TV money. 50% to the winner, and 50% split to all clubs from the 1st round.
The winner should also be given a promotion from their league from the championship down. PL teams could have a play off with 6th/7th place for a EL spot
Part of the reason i feel the FA cup has lost it’s spark is that anyone outside of the PL is only entering for a PL away day payout
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
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Would you actually though? Prefer to win the FA Cup one year and not play in the Champions at all the following season than not winning the FA Cup but getting to play in the Champions League the next season. I can see why in the moment winning the FA Cup may seem better but I think the following season you wouldn't feel the same way.
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
I'd like to see the League Cup knocked on the head. Teams playing in Europe have too many fixtures and they don't take it seriously (until semi-final stage) anyway. There are various ways of approaching this:
- Limit it to Championship teams and below
- Exempt PL teams playing in Europe
- Make it opt-in for PL teams
- PL teams can't only play their under-21s
...and perhaps freeing up the number of games per year, and reducing the number of trophies you can target would lead to bigger clubs taking the FA Cup more seriously again.
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I’d only like to see them do that if the PL distributed more of its earnings to football league clubs.
Tbh I just think they've wanted the league so long it's def a priority, and their selections show as much.
It's weird usually the cl would be the grail to chase but they are a bit of an enigma in that they've won it a few times and not the PL.
Id say top 4 is more important than the fa cup as all the best players and the big money comes from the cl.
It's not even comparable really.
In the modern game I think the domestic cups only matter to the teams that have had really barren times, and I kinda get why.
I think the fact Liverpool got more winning the world club cup in a couple of games, than winning the whole fa cup explains exactly where the problem lies.
Make 1 domestic cup with a bigger prize.
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 15 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
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Would you actually though? I'd prefer to waaaaank all over Mourinho's gorgeous face
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posted on 4/3/20
Would be livid with last night to be honest. Lost a couple, need to find confidence, League is done so why the feck would you not put your strongest side out and go for it.
Only reason i can think is fear, the fear that if his full side didn't beat Chelsea confidence would hit rock bottom.
posted on 4/3/20
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
posted on 4/3/20
And let’s not forget we once eliminated the best Arsenal side ever with a midfield of Rafael, O’Shea, Park and Fabio.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
posted on 4/3/20
What is worrying is how ineffective they’ve been in defeat. Got their danger men on and didn’t have a shot on target after the 31st minute.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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The side that finished the game was pretty much full strength wasn't it????
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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Aside from Firmino, Salah, Henderson, TAA and Allison it was, wasn’t it? Which is basically what I said? My point being that you put out a strong side. The last 20 mins you were two players short of full strength.
posted on 4/3/20
Not really and I'm not sure what 20 mins will do when 2-0 down anyway.
Alisson starts I doubt we lose in fact. Throw in a couple of teenagers. A guy new to the league and Origi instead of Salah away at Chelsea and you'll get beaten.
posted on 4/3/20
Liverpool haven’t been that god a cup side the last decade, surprisingly. Two in the decade is it? League Cup in 2012 and CL last season.
posted on 4/3/20
Even Lallana is not exactly a regular
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 29 seconds ago
Liverpool haven’t been that god a cup side the last decade, surprisingly. Two in the decade is it? League Cup in 2012 and CL last season.
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That's the furthest we've been in the FA cup under Klopp and I think as far at all in the cup since 2006 or something 2012.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 minutes ago
Even Lallana is not exactly a regular
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I still think Klopp put out a strong side. The point I’m failing to make is that I feel he did take the match seriously. A non-football fan wouldn’t have been able to tell that Williams and Jones aren’t first team regulars,
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 2 minutes ago
To be fair, Klopp put out an almost full strength side last night, Firmino, Salah (who both got on), TAA and zhenderson aside.
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It was nowhere near full strength
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Why did Klopp risk injury to 3 out of his first choice back 4 and the likes of Mane if he is not interested in winning the tie.
Why risk injury to VVD Gomez or Robertson a week before a vital CL tie if you are not interested in winning the FA cup.
Klopp played a strong side he thought was capable of winning last nights game
posted on 4/3/20
Must have been a while since Liverpool had such a barren decade for trophies.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 48 minutes ago
Yes because Wigan got relegated.
Diafol, but I’m not talking about devaluing the cup I’m talking about it devaluing the quality of the CL.
I think the winners getting a CL spot is a terrible idea. Whether people like it or not the CL place is a bigger reward than the FA Cup, I don’t see why a team winning six games should take precedence over a team doing consistently well in a 38 game season. Luckily it’ll never happen.
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I understand the devaluing the CL point but I don't think that would come to pass anyway. I'm pretty certain at this present time that a team finishing 6th and winning the FA Cup is just as capable of competing as a team in 4th.
Maybe I am a romantic but as a fan I'd look back much more fondly on an FA Cup win than finishing 4th. I think providing an incentive could give those teams who choose to field a weaker team ordinarily the kick to go full strength for the possible reward.
The play offs are an example of teams not necessarily getting the reward based on league merit.
All about opinions I know but I think it would be great.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Not really and I'm not sure what 20 mins will do when 2-0 down anyway.
Alisson starts I doubt we lose in fact. Throw in a couple of teenagers. A guy new to the league and Origi instead of Salah away at Chelsea and you'll get beaten.
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Why risk it? To go through to the next round obviously and even if Klopp did do that, which I doubt, he was wrong.
posted on 4/3/20
This fvcking phone!
posted on 4/3/20
Yeah I don’t agree with the play offs either. I don’t think rewarding the FA Cup with a CL place would add anymore romance to it anyway, and we’ll never find out.
posted on 4/3/20
I think a lot can be done by the PL and FL to reignite the FA cup
Firstly there should be a 50/50 split in prize/TV money. 50% to the winner, and 50% split to all clubs from the 1st round.
The winner should also be given a promotion from their league from the championship down. PL teams could have a play off with 6th/7th place for a EL spot
Part of the reason i feel the FA cup has lost it’s spark is that anyone outside of the PL is only entering for a PL away day payout
posted on 4/3/20
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
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Would you actually though? Prefer to win the FA Cup one year and not play in the Champions at all the following season than not winning the FA Cup but getting to play in the Champions League the next season. I can see why in the moment winning the FA Cup may seem better but I think the following season you wouldn't feel the same way.
posted on 4/3/20
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 4 hours, 30 minutes ago
I'd like to see the League Cup knocked on the head. Teams playing in Europe have too many fixtures and they don't take it seriously (until semi-final stage) anyway. There are various ways of approaching this:
- Limit it to Championship teams and below
- Exempt PL teams playing in Europe
- Make it opt-in for PL teams
- PL teams can't only play their under-21s
...and perhaps freeing up the number of games per year, and reducing the number of trophies you can target would lead to bigger clubs taking the FA Cup more seriously again.
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I’d only like to see them do that if the PL distributed more of its earnings to football league clubs.
posted on 4/3/20
Tbh I just think they've wanted the league so long it's def a priority, and their selections show as much.
It's weird usually the cl would be the grail to chase but they are a bit of an enigma in that they've won it a few times and not the PL.
Id say top 4 is more important than the fa cup as all the best players and the big money comes from the cl.
It's not even comparable really.
In the modern game I think the domestic cups only matter to the teams that have had really barren times, and I kinda get why.
posted on 4/3/20
I think the fact Liverpool got more winning the world club cup in a couple of games, than winning the whole fa cup explains exactly where the problem lies.
Make 1 domestic cup with a bigger prize.
posted on 5/3/20
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 15 hours, 31 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 4 minutes ago
As a fan I much prefer an FA cup win to top 4. It's a trophy, à great afternoon, it goes in the trophy room.
If I was Joël Glazer I would think differently,, but I'm not.
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Would you actually though? I'd prefer to waaaaank all over Mourinho's gorgeous face
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