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Could a double season be the answer?

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posted on 30/3/20

Surely the transfer window is a moveable thing. That need not dictate the seasons timing.

IMO those in charge need to make a clear decision now. Set a workable date by which time the season maust restart & finish and have everyone agree to it. If it is not achieved then we declare null and void and move on to next season on the usual timeframe.

We all know what a litigious world we live in. Decisions need to be reached collectively so everyone knows where we stand. Those wishing to protest have the time to pursue their legal recourse, so a way forward, a deadline and set of outcomes needs discussing and agreeing asap

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we can complete this seasons fixturs then why would we need to double up the seasons. We cannot play back to back remaining fixtures and next seasons fixtures it will be far too long a run of games. a 48 game season with cups and internationals and then the Euros.. Too much
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I did say sacrifice the cups

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 4 minutes ago
Start a new season. This season's over. Even if you were to 'restart' the season later at some point, it would be a new season in all but name so why not just call it what it is.
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So...who goes in to the UCL then? Those who qualified last season?

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 6 minutes ago
If we can complete this seasons fixturs then why would we need to double up the seasons. We cannot play back to back remaining fixtures and next seasons fixtures it will be far too long a run of games. a 48 game season with cups and internationals and then the Euros.. Too much
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I did say sacrifice the cups
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still too much IMO.....also have to run WC Qualifiers and then Euros too.

posted on 30/3/20

I don't think the transfer window would be that much of a problem. Just have a pan Europe agreement that the window remains open for all transfers at any time until the season is completed.

The main issue is player contracts but, in the grand scheme of things, even that isn't the most difficult thing to get right. If players are out of contract they can either sign a short term contract or become a free agent and wait until the next season before joining a new club. I know there will be some losers there but that's the way it goes*

*Of course if someone thinks of a better idea that isn't the way it goes!

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 2 minutes ago
Surely the transfer window is a moveable thing. That need not dictate the seasons timing.

IMO those in charge need to make a clear decision now. Set a workable date by which time the season maust restart & finish and have everyone agree to it. If it is not achieved then we declare null and void and move on to next season on the usual timeframe.

We all know what a litigious world we live in. Decisions need to be reached collectively so everyone knows where we stand. Those wishing to protest have the time to pursue their legal recourse, so a way forward, a deadline and set of outcomes needs discussing and agreeing asap
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The window is a moveable thing. But what about player contracts? Some players will want to move and if they are out of contract then they should be able to. You are getting into employment laws and the right to work. I think this is a huge issue that a lot of people are overlooking. If you allow the players to move whilst the season is still ongoing then the integrity of the league is compromised. And the FA are huge on protecting the integrity of the competitions.

posted on 30/3/20

Even without the playing side of things you need these gaps

Pre season just to get them back on the pitch
The gap between the PL season ending and the play offs and then their Wembley finals
The fixture list being compiled
The new pre season
The new transfer window
The prelim rounds for the euro comps

So it’s hard to just tell players on say July 1st to start playing non stop until after euro 2021

posted on 30/3/20

Anyone else got a new favourite saying, recently?

posted on 30/3/20

Mine is “null and void”.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
Even without the playing side of things you need these gaps

Pre season just to get them back on the pitch
The gap between the PL season ending and the play offs and then their Wembley finals
The fixture list being compiled
The new pre season
The new transfer window
The prelim rounds for the euro comps

So it’s hard to just tell players on say July 1st to start playing non stop until after euro 2021
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It's not happening Robb. I think this season is over, I really do. I hope I'm wrong.

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 4 minutes ago
Start a new season. This season's over. Even if you were to 'restart' the season later at some point, it would be a new season in all but name so why not just call it what it is.
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So...who goes in to the UCL then? Those who qualified last season?
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Yep. It's not fair to award anything based on 3/4 of a season and I don't see the sense in disrupting next season in any way just for the sake of the last two months of this season.

posted on 30/3/20

I personally think the only way this season can be completed, including all cup competitions, and have a full next season, is by cancelling the 2020(21) Euros.

I don’t think this season can sensibly start again for probably another 4 months at least. That takes us to the end of July. If they allowed a short ‘pre/season’ then allowed all games to be completed you’re probably looking at 3 months to complete. That puts us at the end of October. For the 20-21 season to complete properly it would need to run into July/August 2021.

As much as it would tickle me if this season got voided, I think the reality is that it has to be completed.

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 1 minute ago
Even without the playing side of things you need these gaps

Pre season just to get them back on the pitch
The gap between the PL season ending and the play offs and then their Wembley finals
The fixture list being compiled
The new pre season
The new transfer window
The prelim rounds for the euro comps

So it’s hard to just tell players on say July 1st to start playing non stop until after euro 2021
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It's not happening Robb. I think this season is over, I really do. I hope I'm wrong.
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It really wouldn’t surprise me. All depends on the next 8 weeks - if the curve flattens quickly it could resume. If it isn’t flattening by the beginning of June it’s over imo

posted on 30/3/20

comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 22 seconds ago
I personally think the only way this season can be completed, including all cup competitions, and have a full next season, is by cancelling the 2020(21) Euros.

I don’t think this season can sensibly start again for probably another 4 months at least. That takes us to the end of July. If they allowed a short ‘pre/season’ then allowed all games to be completed you’re probably looking at 3 months to complete. That puts us at the end of October. For the 20-21 season to complete properly it would need to run into July/August 2021.

As much as it would tickle me if this season got voided, I think the reality is that it has to be completed.
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I don’t think it has to be completed

There are precedents of seasons being called off for less severe reasons - look at the Chilean season recently

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by devilsknight101 (U4670)
posted 22 seconds ago
I personally think the only way this season can be completed, including all cup competitions, and have a full next season, is by cancelling the 2020(21) Euros.

I don’t think this season can sensibly start again for probably another 4 months at least. That takes us to the end of July. If they allowed a short ‘pre/season’ then allowed all games to be completed you’re probably looking at 3 months to complete. That puts us at the end of October. For the 20-21 season to complete properly it would need to run into July/August 2021.

As much as it would tickle me if this season got voided, I think the reality is that it has to be completed.
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I don’t think it has to be completed

There are precedents of seasons being called off for less severe reasons - look at the Chilean season recently
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I think there’s too much money involved for it to be voided.

posted on 30/3/20

Even if rates drop surely governments need to be extra careful not to allow a second wave. Risking that just to enable the football season to finish is utter madness.

I get that we need to get back to some sort of normality when we can and that it’s important to get the economy working so that the world isn’t f-cked any further but football really isn’t important right now and shouldn’t be considered until we are very confident that C19 is contained.

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Shinjury list (U1700)
posted 2 seconds ago
Mine is “null and void”.
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I'm working on one at the moment but can't quite nail it down. I'm thinking Jurgen Flipp or Jurgen Flapp, or something like that....

posted on 30/3/20

Cancel this season and wipe it off the record books.

Oh, and tell Liverpool to fack off.

posted on 30/3/20

It’s not a case of money - arguably, some of the lower league clubs are in more precarious financial position than many of the so called ‘big clubs’ in the higher leagues

The lower leagues have been cancelled and null and voided, it’s only a matter of time until we see the same happening across all leagues - I believe the decision has already been made at the very top

comment by Elvis (U7425)

posted on 30/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s not a case of money - arguably, some of the lower league clubs are in more precarious financial position than many of the so called ‘big clubs’ in the higher leagues

The lower leagues have been cancelled and null and voided, it’s only a matter of time until we see the same happening across all leagues - I believe the decision has already been made at the very top

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Yep. It's looking like Scotland are going down this route.

posted on 30/3/20

comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 3 minutes ago
It’s not a case of money - arguably, some of the lower league clubs are in more precarious financial position than many of the so called ‘big clubs’ in the higher leagues

The lower leagues have been cancelled and null and voided, it’s only a matter of time until we see the same happening across all leagues - I believe the decision has already been made at the very top

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Not to mention clubs like Bolton have about 80% of their players out of contract on 30th June. If they don't want to renew those deals, then they can't be forced to nor can they punished for not doing so.

posted on 30/3/20

I think that this option would overcome so many problems and give football some breathing space

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Sorry, but

This is one of the worst ideas I've heard. Coronavirus or no.

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
The simple solution is to set a latest date to get the season finished and if we can hit it, great, if not, abandon
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No need to set a date. The league is suspended indefinitely. If it ets to a point where cancelling it is the beat option then just do it. No need to tie it down to a date.

Priority is to defeat covid then take stock after that and if the league needs canceling then the decision will be taken at that point.

This is the best way IMO.

comment by Busby (U19985)

posted on 30/3/20

This has to be the worst idea yet

posted on 30/3/20

comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Robb, the fourth husband of Joe Exotic (U22311)
posted 2 hours, 44 minutes ago
The simple solution is to set a latest date to get the season finished and if we can hit it, great, if not, abandon
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No need to set a date. The league is suspended indefinitely. If it ets to a point where cancelling it is the beat option then just do it. No need to tie it down to a date.

Priority is to defeat covid then take stock after that and if the league needs canceling then the decision will be taken at that point.

This is the best way IMO.
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Problem with that is that it could last well into next year - clubs and players will demand some clarity and actions in order to make the necessary arrangements about their future

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