comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 11 seconds ago
All that tells us is that they want the season finished by 31st July under the current tv deals. It doesn’t go into the complications of a league being unable to be completed by that date and how it will impact on the tv deal for the following season.
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It looks to me like all/this is covered in the article. What exactly would you have wanted to see? What info is missing?
There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc
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You might have a point but you're on flimsy ground. What you say here is theoretical at this point in time.
Any workers/employees are fully aware of the risk they are taking. Look up "volenti non fit injuria". They won't necessarily be entitled a huge payout.
Also, they will be insured and that would cover most of the cost.
Also, this is cringey but the suits only care about money. One or two people dying would not cost them a billion, especially with insurance to cover it so they will proceed to play behind closed doors.
They are even planning to allow expanded squads to allow for sick/unwilling players to be left out.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
762m in rebates
Clubs ready to sue as we speak.
Next season will not start before those cases are heard and determined. So many obstacles.
After reading that article, I think its time people started coming around to the fact that the season has to be completed.
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You can only complete a season if the authorities give the green light. And that in itself would open up huge potential legal issues. What if one of the players or team staff members get the virus and dies? Just think how many members of staff need to be at work to support a PL team. If one of those dies, then what? Who is to blame? There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc. I hope I am wrong, as we could all do with the entertainment right now, but I don't see it happening.
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Did you read the link?
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Yes. It's a speculative article in the daily mail with no credible sources. Did you read it?
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
It hasn’t gone into it. Because all it states is that the cycle for the next tv deal starts on 1st August. It doesn’t state the issues surrounding the tv deals should the season be delayed, for however long that is.
They want the season to end and the next season to start on their timeline, which is understandable, but that’s not something that can be adhered to right now as we don’t yet now how long impact of this virus will last. Don’t forget there’s also the issue of the Euros being moved to next summer.
It’s a clusterfack right now trying to solve this issue.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc
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You might have a point but you're on flimsy ground. What you say here is theoretical at this point in time.
Any workers/employees are fully aware of the risk they are taking. Look up "volenti non fit injuria". They won't necessarily be entitled a huge payout.
Also, they will be insured and that would cover most of the cost.
Also, this is cringey but the suits only care about money. One or two people dying would not cost them a billion, especially with insurance to cover it so they will proceed to play behind closed doors.
They are even planning to allow expanded squads to allow for sick/unwilling players to be left out.
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Perhaps you are right. But does Boris want to take that gamble? He's not going to fair well if he gives the go ahead and there is a fataliry. I just think that there is too big a risk for it to happen, but I do hope I am wrong. I wouldn't be pinning all my hopes on an article in that particular paper though. Has there been anything in the Times or on the BBC?
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 57 seconds ago
It hasn’t gone into it. Because all it states is that the cycle for the next tv deal starts on 1st August. It doesn’t state the issues surrounding the tv deals should the season be delayed, for however long that is
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It clearly states that the league will have to pay rebates of 762m if all games are not provided by 16th of July. The deal itself concludes on 31st July.
As for next season, the deal commences on 1st August and they don't have to provide games immediately. The requirement is to provide 380 games by July next year. This means it's not that relevant at this time what happens to next season. It could be delayed or whatever but they haven't breached next seasons deal yet and might not have to.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
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I didn't say or imply it was easy, but its feasible IMO.
A paper being sheet doesn't mean all articles are sheet. Mostly you can tell the bogus articles and this one doesn't look bogus at all to me. Time will tell though, I guess.
It clearly states that the league will have to pay rebates of 762m if all games are not provided by 16th of July.
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No it doesn't. It states:
Sky, BT and international rights holders could demand as much as £762million
Emphasis on the 'could' there. This is the Fail, remember.
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
Of course it’s relevant, because any delays can impact the ability to provide those games next season. This is why it’s even a discussion.
Plus it’s not just a premier league issue. The government needs to create a solution not just for the six leagues in the English football pyramid, but also that of the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh professional football leagues.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
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I didn't say or imply it was easy, but its feasible IMO.
A paper being sheet doesn't mean all articles are sheet. Mostly you can tell the bogus articles and this one doesn't look bogus at all to me. Time will tell though, I guess.
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I think there will be se truth in it. I so think that they will have gilded the lily. Time will tell.
Elvis
You ate ignoring the material info into he article. It doesn't matter the source.
Does the league have to provide games by 16th of July or possibly have to pay 762m in rebates? Some of the points are absolute facts that suggest completing the season is paramount.
The league would be better off asking for the TV companies to extend the July 16th deadline rather than paying that money which will bankrupt many clubs and leave many many players without wages or a job. Its a double whammy.
The last payment from TV companies will not be payed, which will mean unpaid wages and sheet. In addition to this, the league would be liable to pay back 762m in rebates.
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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The Premier League has £1.5bn in cash reserves.
Sky and BT might go bust by then so.....
The £726bn in rebates are the May payments of the current tv deal. They cannot withhold a payment and then expect a rebate on a payment that hasn’t even been paid. You haven’t even read the article properly.
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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The Premier League has £1.5bn in cash reserves.
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762m gone this season and the rest to help clubs that are struggling and will fail to pay wages when TV companies fail to pay the last package of this season. If Covid touches next season then they're done.
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
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Its a matter of opinion.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
Elvis
You ate ignoring the material info into he article. It doesn't matter the source.
Does the league have to provide games by 16th of July or possibly have to pay 762m in rebates? Some of the points are absolute facts that suggest completing the season is paramount.
The league would be better off asking for the TV companies to extend the July 16th deadline rather than paying that money which will bankrupt many clubs and leave many many players without wages or a job. Its a double whammy.
The last payment from TV companies will not be payed, which will mean unpaid wages and sheet. In addition to this, the league would be liable to pay back 762m in rebates.
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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Is it a fact that the government is keen to see the season finished? I am sure they will assist it if possible. But they have already made it clear that the players, managers and staff safety is the priority. You need to take these articles with a pinch of salt.
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The £726bn in rebates are the May payments of the current tv deal. They cannot withhold a payment and then expect a rebate on a payment that hasn’t even been paid. You haven’t even read the article properly.
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So these journalists dont even know what they're on about?
You need to look up the word rebate. Its a REFUND for something you paid for but wasn't delivered.
The article clearly says only the last package has not been paid. And if it's not paid, some clubs will immediately be unable to pay wages. Furthermore, the league needs to provide games its already been paid for.
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
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Its a matter of opinion.
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Off the top oft head I know they have been sued by Alan sugar, Elton John, Trump's wife, JK Rowling and now Harry and Megan. Probably a few more less high profile ones too.
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sky and BT might go bust by then so.....
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True. One wonders how they get by.
(hint: BT enjoyed a profit of £3bn in 2018)
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posted on 30/3/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 11 seconds ago
All that tells us is that they want the season finished by 31st July under the current tv deals. It doesn’t go into the complications of a league being unable to be completed by that date and how it will impact on the tv deal for the following season.
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It looks to me like all/this is covered in the article. What exactly would you have wanted to see? What info is missing?
posted on 30/3/20
There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc
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You might have a point but you're on flimsy ground. What you say here is theoretical at this point in time.
Any workers/employees are fully aware of the risk they are taking. Look up "volenti non fit injuria". They won't necessarily be entitled a huge payout.
Also, they will be insured and that would cover most of the cost.
Also, this is cringey but the suits only care about money. One or two people dying would not cost them a billion, especially with insurance to cover it so they will proceed to play behind closed doors.
They are even planning to allow expanded squads to allow for sick/unwilling players to be left out.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 5 minutes ago
762m in rebates
Clubs ready to sue as we speak.
Next season will not start before those cases are heard and determined. So many obstacles.
After reading that article, I think its time people started coming around to the fact that the season has to be completed.
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You can only complete a season if the authorities give the green light. And that in itself would open up huge potential legal issues. What if one of the players or team staff members get the virus and dies? Just think how many members of staff need to be at work to support a PL team. If one of those dies, then what? Who is to blame? There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc. I hope I am wrong, as we could all do with the entertainment right now, but I don't see it happening.
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Did you read the link?
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Yes. It's a speculative article in the daily mail with no credible sources. Did you read it?
posted on 30/3/20
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
posted on 30/3/20
It hasn’t gone into it. Because all it states is that the cycle for the next tv deal starts on 1st August. It doesn’t state the issues surrounding the tv deals should the season be delayed, for however long that is.
They want the season to end and the next season to start on their timeline, which is understandable, but that’s not something that can be adhered to right now as we don’t yet now how long impact of this virus will last. Don’t forget there’s also the issue of the Euros being moved to next summer.
It’s a clusterfack right now trying to solve this issue.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 6 minutes ago
There would be huge implications with potential lawsuits against the club, league, FA, government, broadcasters etc
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You might have a point but you're on flimsy ground. What you say here is theoretical at this point in time.
Any workers/employees are fully aware of the risk they are taking. Look up "volenti non fit injuria". They won't necessarily be entitled a huge payout.
Also, they will be insured and that would cover most of the cost.
Also, this is cringey but the suits only care about money. One or two people dying would not cost them a billion, especially with insurance to cover it so they will proceed to play behind closed doors.
They are even planning to allow expanded squads to allow for sick/unwilling players to be left out.
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Perhaps you are right. But does Boris want to take that gamble? He's not going to fair well if he gives the go ahead and there is a fataliry. I just think that there is too big a risk for it to happen, but I do hope I am wrong. I wouldn't be pinning all my hopes on an article in that particular paper though. Has there been anything in the Times or on the BBC?
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 57 seconds ago
It hasn’t gone into it. Because all it states is that the cycle for the next tv deal starts on 1st August. It doesn’t state the issues surrounding the tv deals should the season be delayed, for however long that is
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It clearly states that the league will have to pay rebates of 762m if all games are not provided by 16th of July. The deal itself concludes on 31st July.
As for next season, the deal commences on 1st August and they don't have to provide games immediately. The requirement is to provide 380 games by July next year. This means it's not that relevant at this time what happens to next season. It could be delayed or whatever but they haven't breached next seasons deal yet and might not have to.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
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I didn't say or imply it was easy, but its feasible IMO.
A paper being sheet doesn't mean all articles are sheet. Mostly you can tell the bogus articles and this one doesn't look bogus at all to me. Time will tell though, I guess.
posted on 30/3/20
It clearly states that the league will have to pay rebates of 762m if all games are not provided by 16th of July.
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No it doesn't. It states:
Sky, BT and international rights holders could demand as much as £762million
Emphasis on the 'could' there. This is the Fail, remember.
posted on 30/3/20
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
posted on 30/3/20
Of course it’s relevant, because any delays can impact the ability to provide those games next season. This is why it’s even a discussion.
Plus it’s not just a premier league issue. The government needs to create a solution not just for the six leagues in the English football pyramid, but also that of the Northern Irish, Scottish and Welsh professional football leagues.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 2 minutes ago
Still its better than speculative posts with no credible sources on an internet forum.
These are respected journalists. Its obviously based on fact as they can't make up that clubs have been havungbyhese discussions and reaching these conclusions.
A bit desperate trying to downplay the article. You could argue it won't work but a plan to complete the season is definitely there saan.
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Come on mate, that paper is one of the worst in the country. I am sure that there is a desire to get the league finished. I just don't think it is as easy as you think it is.
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I didn't say or imply it was easy, but its feasible IMO.
A paper being sheet doesn't mean all articles are sheet. Mostly you can tell the bogus articles and this one doesn't look bogus at all to me. Time will tell though, I guess.
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I think there will be se truth in it. I so think that they will have gilded the lily. Time will tell.
posted on 30/3/20
Elvis
You ate ignoring the material info into he article. It doesn't matter the source.
Does the league have to provide games by 16th of July or possibly have to pay 762m in rebates? Some of the points are absolute facts that suggest completing the season is paramount.
The league would be better off asking for the TV companies to extend the July 16th deadline rather than paying that money which will bankrupt many clubs and leave many many players without wages or a job. Its a double whammy.
The last payment from TV companies will not be payed, which will mean unpaid wages and sheet. In addition to this, the league would be liable to pay back 762m in rebates.
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
posted on 30/3/20
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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The Premier League has £1.5bn in cash reserves.
posted on 30/3/20
Sky and BT might go bust by then so.....
posted on 30/3/20
The £726bn in rebates are the May payments of the current tv deal. They cannot withhold a payment and then expect a rebate on a payment that hasn’t even been paid. You haven’t even read the article properly.
posted on 30/3/20
*£762bn sorry
posted on 30/3/20
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 3 minutes ago
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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The Premier League has £1.5bn in cash reserves.
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762m gone this season and the rest to help clubs that are struggling and will fail to pay wages when TV companies fail to pay the last package of this season. If Covid touches next season then they're done.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
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Its a matter of opinion.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 8 minutes ago
Elvis
You ate ignoring the material info into he article. It doesn't matter the source.
Does the league have to provide games by 16th of July or possibly have to pay 762m in rebates? Some of the points are absolute facts that suggest completing the season is paramount.
The league would be better off asking for the TV companies to extend the July 16th deadline rather than paying that money which will bankrupt many clubs and leave many many players without wages or a job. Its a double whammy.
The last payment from TV companies will not be payed, which will mean unpaid wages and sheet. In addition to this, the league would be liable to pay back 762m in rebates.
The Premier league would probably be so ridden in debt it would be wound up.
Get a grip FFS.
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Is it a fact that the government is keen to see the season finished? I am sure they will assist it if possible. But they have already made it clear that the players, managers and staff safety is the priority. You need to take these articles with a pinch of salt.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Joe The King Exotic (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
The £726bn in rebates are the May payments of the current tv deal. They cannot withhold a payment and then expect a rebate on a payment that hasn’t even been paid. You haven’t even read the article properly.
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So these journalists dont even know what they're on about?
You need to look up the word rebate. Its a REFUND for something you paid for but wasn't delivered.
The article clearly says only the last package has not been paid. And if it's not paid, some clubs will immediately be unable to pay wages. Furthermore, the league needs to provide games its already been paid for.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Scouze Doggie Dog (U22357)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Elvis: King of Cult (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by ThE ReVoLuTiOn Is HeRe (U22182)
posted 10 minutes ago
The Daily Mail is one of the more credible newspapers out the to be fair ππΌ
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Are you being serious?
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Its a matter of opinion.
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Off the top oft head I know they have been sued by Alan sugar, Elton John, Trump's wife, JK Rowling and now Harry and Megan. Probably a few more less high profile ones too.
posted on 30/3/20
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 6 minutes ago
Sky and BT might go bust by then so.....
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True. One wonders how they get by.
(hint: BT enjoyed a profit of £3bn in 2018)
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