This article has nothing to do with momentum being a huge thing in football
We'll take the title whether "given" or by "proxy". Its hard to make this argument when a team is 25 points clear. You'd have a point of the gap was tiny. 25 points will never be a doubt.
As for not being able to celebrate, that's disappointing but covid is a more worthy villain to make that bearable.
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This article has nothing to do with momentum being a huge thing in football
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Winning a title by being mathematically uncatchable is undisputable,winning a title by default will certainly effect momentum.
Not celebrating a title in front of your fans would be a major downer for the players and potentially could be a big concern when it comes to momentum
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
It is a shame for Liverpool it has unfolded this way but five years from now nobody will be doubting their credibility as champions.
Surely Liverpool’s momentum was a hell of a lot. They were free falling off a cliff after being done by Watford and Chelsea (much vaulted midfield brings turned over by a debutant teenager) and gone and away vs atletico...
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posted 14 seconds ago
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
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As for all the teams in the Premiership,LFC had the biggest momentum behind them,so therefore they will have the biggest downside when it comes to suspension due to covid-19
Most of the momentum was generated by VAR.
The outrageous decisons they benefitted from made them feel invincible.
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posted 14 seconds ago
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
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As for all the teams in the Premiership,LFC had the biggest momentum behind them,so therefore they will have the biggest downside when it comes to suspension due to covid-19
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Lol, what?
If ever there was a time for Barry to do a graph this is it.
Liverpool players winning the league and celebrating in front of their fans against being awarded the title or playing behind closed doors.
Bound to be a shift in momentum
I guess the answer to the question of whether we had momentum and whether we will subsequently lose it as a result of covid depends on what point the rival fan is making at that particular point in time. We have momentum when it suits and don't have momentum when it suits.
We'll see how it goes though. According to JA experts, we had already lost momentum long before covid and we we're "scraping" through games. Furthermore, JA experts have highlighted Manchester United's good form in the last 10 or so games.
I'd argue that United were in revival mode after signing Bruno and Covid will have put an end to that.
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
I think Maidenhead had the greatest momentum of anybody tbh
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posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
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Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
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posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
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Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
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Yeah you said but in order for me to understand the full effects of this nightmare I need to know the how much momentum we had, how much we will lose from that and also the other clubs momentum. Only then will we know the base level momentum which at the end of the day we all know decides football results.
I'm not seeing many numbers so far. Not even a Rooney.
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posted 3 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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I agree with Neville. Whilst I think you will have a very good season, it will be a little less than this.
I think, look at our last dozen games, that our season will be much better than last? Voilà, much closer.
Re Liverpool this season, everyone knows you have been great, and are champions in all but name. Except fools and wums.
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posted 4 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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I think a shift in momentum was already taking place, United were on an upward trajectory since the arrival of a certain Portuguese, conversely Liverpool were in the midst of a mini collapse, I think Covid-19 has inadvertently saved Liverpool from themselves
Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react
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Which would have happened anyway as football stops for three months in the summer every year.
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posted 22 seconds ago
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posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
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Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
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Yeah you said but in order for me to understand the full effects of this nightmare I need to know the how much momentum we had, how much we will lose from that and also the other clubs momentum. Only then will we know the base level momentum which at the end of the day we all know decides football results.
I'm not seeing many numbers so far. Not even a Rooney.
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Screaming for a bit of PowerPoint this. Come on OP, don’t be lazy. Plenty of time on your hands. Show us quantifiable data for us to analyse.
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comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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I think a shift in momentum was already taking place, United were on an upward trajectory since the arrival of a certain Portuguese, conversely Liverpool were in the midst of a mini collapse, I think Covid-19 has inadvertently saved Liverpool from themselves
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Liverpool were always going to win the league,but winning it by default or behind closed doors is certainly going to nullify them momentum thet have built up.
As it stands momentum wise Liverpool are going to be losers
Momentum aside spending nothing in last years transfer budget means that FFP wise we may well be in a very strong position to take advantage of a weakened transfer market. Few players leaving on end of contract too which along with the new kit deal could work well for us.
Considering we've been absolutely on it for two seasons on the trot, playing a huge amount if football including 7 competitions this seasom, and were in patchy form I suspect a break and a good freshening of the squad will actually do us a lot of good.
Odd use of the word 'Momentum' considering Liverpool lost 3 of their last 4 games before lockdown.
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posted on 9/5/20
This article has nothing to do with momentum being a huge thing in football
posted on 9/5/20
We'll take the title whether "given" or by "proxy". Its hard to make this argument when a team is 25 points clear. You'd have a point of the gap was tiny. 25 points will never be a doubt.
As for not being able to celebrate, that's disappointing but covid is a more worthy villain to make that bearable.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
This article has nothing to do with momentum being a huge thing in football
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Winning a title by being mathematically uncatchable is undisputable,winning a title by default will certainly effect momentum.
Not celebrating a title in front of your fans would be a major downer for the players and potentially could be a big concern when it comes to momentum
posted on 9/5/20
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
posted on 9/5/20
It is a shame for Liverpool it has unfolded this way but five years from now nobody will be doubting their credibility as champions.
posted on 9/5/20
Surely Liverpool’s momentum was a hell of a lot. They were free falling off a cliff after being done by Watford and Chelsea (much vaulted midfield brings turned over by a debutant teenager) and gone and away vs atletico...
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 14 seconds ago
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
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As for all the teams in the Premiership,LFC had the biggest momentum behind them,so therefore they will have the biggest downside when it comes to suspension due to covid-19
posted on 9/5/20
Most of the momentum was generated by VAR.
The outrageous decisons they benefitted from made them feel invincible.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 14 seconds ago
We shall have to see, won't we?
We've lost 2 games in two Prem seasons and didn't sign anyone last summer. Will be hard to keep that going without adding players but we shall see.
This momentum argument sounds like hot air to me though.
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As for all the teams in the Premiership,LFC had the biggest momentum behind them,so therefore they will have the biggest downside when it comes to suspension due to covid-19
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Lol, what?
If ever there was a time for Barry to do a graph this is it.
posted on 9/5/20
Liverpool players winning the league and celebrating in front of their fans against being awarded the title or playing behind closed doors.
Bound to be a shift in momentum
posted on 9/5/20
I guess the answer to the question of whether we had momentum and whether we will subsequently lose it as a result of covid depends on what point the rival fan is making at that particular point in time. We have momentum when it suits and don't have momentum when it suits.
We'll see how it goes though. According to JA experts, we had already lost momentum long before covid and we we're "scraping" through games. Furthermore, JA experts have highlighted Manchester United's good form in the last 10 or so games.
I'd argue that United were in revival mode after signing Bruno and Covid will have put an end to that.
posted on 9/5/20
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
posted on 9/5/20
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
posted on 9/5/20
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
posted on 9/5/20
I think Maidenhead had the greatest momentum of anybody tbh
posted on 9/5/20
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posted 8 seconds ago
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
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What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 13 seconds ago
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posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah you said but in order for me to understand the full effects of this nightmare I need to know the how much momentum we had, how much we will lose from that and also the other clubs momentum. Only then will we know the base level momentum which at the end of the day we all know decides football results.
I'm not seeing many numbers so far. Not even a Rooney.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 3 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I agree with Neville. Whilst I think you will have a very good season, it will be a little less than this.
I think, look at our last dozen games, that our season will be much better than last? Voilà, much closer.
Re Liverpool this season, everyone knows you have been great, and are champions in all but name. Except fools and wums.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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I think a shift in momentum was already taking place, United were on an upward trajectory since the arrival of a certain Portuguese, conversely Liverpool were in the midst of a mini collapse, I think Covid-19 has inadvertently saved Liverpool from themselves
posted on 9/5/20
Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react
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Which would have happened anyway as football stops for three months in the summer every year.
posted on 9/5/20
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posted 13 seconds ago
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posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Colemanballs (U22246)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 44 seconds ago
Yeah they've probably got no control over their own destiny tbf, not in the face of momentum. What will happen then? Does our momentum move from a 9 to a 6? Does you gave an equation or graph you could post mate? I think it would help.
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You had the greatest amount of momentum before covid-19 so therefore the greatest amount of momentum to lose post covid-19
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What ratio you think then? We lose 3 bits of momentum to everyone elses 2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Liverpool have the greatest momentum to lose,it could be a killer for LFC long term as other clubs now have greater time to reflect and to react.
Whatever way you look at it,it doesn't benefit LFC
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah you said but in order for me to understand the full effects of this nightmare I need to know the how much momentum we had, how much we will lose from that and also the other clubs momentum. Only then will we know the base level momentum which at the end of the day we all know decides football results.
I'm not seeing many numbers so far. Not even a Rooney.
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Screaming for a bit of PowerPoint this. Come on OP, don’t be lazy. Plenty of time on your hands. Show us quantifiable data for us to analyse.
posted on 9/5/20
comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Shijiu (U22385)
posted 4 minutes ago
OP did you see Neville's comments that United will challenge Liverpool for the title next season?
Perhaps there will be a 37 points shift in momentum, you never know.
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I think a shift in momentum was already taking place, United were on an upward trajectory since the arrival of a certain Portuguese, conversely Liverpool were in the midst of a mini collapse, I think Covid-19 has inadvertently saved Liverpool from themselves
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Liverpool were always going to win the league,but winning it by default or behind closed doors is certainly going to nullify them momentum thet have built up.
As it stands momentum wise Liverpool are going to be losers
posted on 9/5/20
Momentum aside spending nothing in last years transfer budget means that FFP wise we may well be in a very strong position to take advantage of a weakened transfer market. Few players leaving on end of contract too which along with the new kit deal could work well for us.
Considering we've been absolutely on it for two seasons on the trot, playing a huge amount if football including 7 competitions this seasom, and were in patchy form I suspect a break and a good freshening of the squad will actually do us a lot of good.
posted on 9/5/20
Odd use of the word 'Momentum' considering Liverpool lost 3 of their last 4 games before lockdown.
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