comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 1 second ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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I'm not sure anyone is arguing that it's a reasonable reason for scrapping relegation.
I think the point is that these teams will use whatever power they have to try and avoid being relegated - and no one can blame them, surely.
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 seconds ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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That would be an isolated case rather than changing the rules of a competition with a third left to play.
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 19 seconds ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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No, but it's an awful analogy.
Now if all 20 teams had damaged stadium's causing deaths to thousands and forcing the country into lockdown for 6-12 months then maybe you'd be onto something.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
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Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
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There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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Somebody has to lose out, unfairly either way.
I don't think the championship will finish. Tests cost £1000 a test privately, can they even afford it?
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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They will fight for their cause. A 22/23 team PL is on the table for discussion.
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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They should get the same chance as everyone else, but then some leagues are getting far more chance than others anyway. Were you as vocal as when the leagues below the National League were expunged, or is it only about money?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
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Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
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There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
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Yes but I imagine they'll go for the least possible. If you scrap everything then it'll effect every league, every european qualification, every associated sponsor, every but of prize money and all the money associated thereafter.
I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany.
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
In the 2017-18 season the Premier League paid £243m in Parachute Payments split amongst 8 clubs, and £100m in Solidarity Payments split amongst the remaining 64 clubs.
The premier league has £1.6 billion in the bank.
Throw money at it and get it done behind closed doors.
@Winston, yeah I can see why club’s are acting in their best interests. But acting in your best interests when in competition doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right, and can turn into acting in your best interests at the unfair expense of others, which isn’t really competition.
@busby, well that just takes us back to where we are..whether to finish the season or not. And I thought this debate was more on is it fair to finish the season knowing clubs will get relegated. And one of the arguments against is that you’ve lost home/away if neutral venues are used. At the crux of it I basically think it’s reasonable if the season is safe to be finished to still expect normal relegation and promotion, not whether the season should be finished or not, a different argument. Mind..even if the season ended now I think still having titles, relegation and promotion and European places using a PPG or an alternative would be best.. 🤷🏿♂️
@DJ, yeah a 22 team league protects everyone’s best interests but then how far down the football pyramid would this go? Or is it just for PL.
@Champers well the only argument I’ve really seen for avoiding relegation is the money aspect, even if it is at the expense of promoted clubs who were due to get the same financial reward.
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
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Im glad to see you're still championing 2019 being voided after Spurs played in three home stadiums. Keep fighting the good fight mate.
If relegation is to be scrapped then we might as well just end the season with current standings/use PPG. What would be the point in starting the league up again when half the games will be meaningless?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
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Teams should be in isolation, that's how it's going to work and it's ine team with three cases isnt it?
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
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Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
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There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
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In a global pandemic the legal route will be thrown out of the window. If the current proposal is agreed and you are relegated then that is life.
Why the desperation to get a game of football played?
Just look at the Valencia- Atalanta game
Some real idiotic comments
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 second ago
If relegation is to be scrapped then we might as well just end the season with current standings/use PPG. What would be the point in starting the league up again when half the games will be meaningless?
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There's no fair outcome for anybody here. Even Liverpool fans wouldn't want to win the league this way, behind closed doors, unable to celebrate.
If they're awarded the title and the season is voided, that's the fairest outcome imo.
I'm sure there could be some sort of settlement agreed for the championship clubs fighting for promotion.
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
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In a global pandemic the legal route will be thrown out of the window. If the current proposal is agreed and you are relegated then that is life.
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Same goes for promotion then.
How can you award something in a void?
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
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Teams should be in isolation, that's how it's going to work and it's ine team with three cases isnt it?
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So far, yes.
Nobody has kicked a ball yet.
comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is a disgrace. It's like City saying they won't restart as it isn't fair that Liverpool are about to win it. Get over it. Life isn't fair and nor is football.
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I think it would be fair for Man City to argue that. Liverpool were floundering before it was abandoned and were about to bottle it. They have now had chance to regroup which is unfair.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
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Im glad to see you're still championing 2019 being voided after Spurs played in three home stadiums. Keep fighting the good fight mate.
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And? Liverpool play 80% of their games with 13 men, but I`ve not seen any season voided because of that either.
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 1 second ago
Why the desperation to get a game of football played?
Just look at the Valencia- Atalanta game
Some real idiotic comments
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posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 1 second ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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I'm not sure anyone is arguing that it's a reasonable reason for scrapping relegation.
I think the point is that these teams will use whatever power they have to try and avoid being relegated - and no one can blame them, surely.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 seconds ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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That would be an isolated case rather than changing the rules of a competition with a third left to play.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 19 seconds ago
A random analogy but somewhat relevant. If a team in a relegation battle, under normal circumstances, had their stadium damaged or deemed unfit to use halfway through a season, would it be reasonable to say that team could ever be exempt for relegation for that season?
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No, but it's an awful analogy.
Now if all 20 teams had damaged stadium's causing deaths to thousands and forcing the country into lockdown for 6-12 months then maybe you'd be onto something.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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Somebody has to lose out, unfairly either way.
I don't think the championship will finish. Tests cost £1000 a test privately, can they even afford it?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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They will fight for their cause. A 22/23 team PL is on the table for discussion.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 44 seconds ago
comment by Kunta Kante (U1641)
posted 11 minutes ago
What do you guys think on the Championship promotion race then? Should they not get an opportunity for promotion, and the financial benefits that come with it? That is the implication if teams are trying to avoid relegation by whatever means necessary.
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No thoughts on this?
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They should get the same chance as everyone else, but then some leagues are getting far more chance than others anyway. Were you as vocal as when the leagues below the National League were expunged, or is it only about money?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
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Yes but I imagine they'll go for the least possible. If you scrap everything then it'll effect every league, every european qualification, every associated sponsor, every but of prize money and all the money associated thereafter.
I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany.
posted on 11/5/20
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
posted on 11/5/20
In the 2017-18 season the Premier League paid £243m in Parachute Payments split amongst 8 clubs, and £100m in Solidarity Payments split amongst the remaining 64 clubs.
The premier league has £1.6 billion in the bank.
Throw money at it and get it done behind closed doors.
posted on 11/5/20
@Winston, yeah I can see why club’s are acting in their best interests. But acting in your best interests when in competition doesn’t necessarily mean it’s right, and can turn into acting in your best interests at the unfair expense of others, which isn’t really competition.
@busby, well that just takes us back to where we are..whether to finish the season or not. And I thought this debate was more on is it fair to finish the season knowing clubs will get relegated. And one of the arguments against is that you’ve lost home/away if neutral venues are used. At the crux of it I basically think it’s reasonable if the season is safe to be finished to still expect normal relegation and promotion, not whether the season should be finished or not, a different argument. Mind..even if the season ended now I think still having titles, relegation and promotion and European places using a PPG or an alternative would be best.. 🤷🏿♂️
@DJ, yeah a 22 team league protects everyone’s best interests but then how far down the football pyramid would this go? Or is it just for PL.
@Champers well the only argument I’ve really seen for avoiding relegation is the money aspect, even if it is at the expense of promoted clubs who were due to get the same financial reward.
posted on 11/5/20
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
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Im glad to see you're still championing 2019 being voided after Spurs played in three home stadiums. Keep fighting the good fight mate.
posted on 11/5/20
If relegation is to be scrapped then we might as well just end the season with current standings/use PPG. What would be the point in starting the league up again when half the games will be meaningless?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
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Teams should be in isolation, that's how it's going to work and it's ine team with three cases isnt it?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
In a global pandemic the legal route will be thrown out of the window. If the current proposal is agreed and you are relegated then that is life.
posted on 11/5/20
Why the desperation to get a game of football played?
Just look at the Valencia- Atalanta game
Some real idiotic comments
posted on 11/5/20
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 1 second ago
If relegation is to be scrapped then we might as well just end the season with current standings/use PPG. What would be the point in starting the league up again when half the games will be meaningless?
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There's no fair outcome for anybody here. Even Liverpool fans wouldn't want to win the league this way, behind closed doors, unable to celebrate.
If they're awarded the title and the season is voided, that's the fairest outcome imo.
I'm sure there could be some sort of settlement agreed for the championship clubs fighting for promotion.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 57 seconds ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 40 seconds ago
How can it be anything but scrapped?
3 month lay off
No home or away advantage
Form out the window
Injuries and fitness
Fundamental changes substitution rules
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Huge amounts of money. Id be absolutely amazed if.they managed to get Prem and EFL clubs to agree to scrap it without numerous financial legal claims.
Decision this week apparently and behimd closed doors looks likely looking at other countries and thrre is nowhere near as much cash involved in their leagues.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There will be legal claims whether relegation is scrapped or not.
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In a global pandemic the legal route will be thrown out of the window. If the current proposal is agreed and you are relegated then that is life.
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Same goes for promotion then.
posted on 11/5/20
How can you award something in a void?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Busby (U19985)
posted 30 seconds ago
"I'd be very surprised if they scrapped it rather than follow the likes of Germany."
Their return is being herald as too early by most in Germany. Players are getting CV19, teams are in isolation, it's all a bit of a mess.
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Teams should be in isolation, that's how it's going to work and it's ine team with three cases isnt it?
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So far, yes.
Nobody has kicked a ball yet.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by ShamelessObserver (U22372)
posted 47 minutes ago
It is a disgrace. It's like City saying they won't restart as it isn't fair that Liverpool are about to win it. Get over it. Life isn't fair and nor is football.
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I think it would be fair for Man City to argue that. Liverpool were floundering before it was abandoned and were about to bottle it. They have now had chance to regroup which is unfair.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by ● Billy The Yidd ● (U3924)
posted 0 seconds ago
It would be wholly unfair to relegate any team under these circumstances, the season is compromised and the rules have been changed part way through a season.
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Im glad to see you're still championing 2019 being voided after Spurs played in three home stadiums. Keep fighting the good fight mate.
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And? Liverpool play 80% of their games with 13 men, but I`ve not seen any season voided because of that either.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Fan Gillhaus 1903 (U3339)
posted 1 second ago
Why the desperation to get a game of football played?
Just look at the Valencia- Atalanta game
Some real idiotic comments
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