comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
Or if your earning that small amount ie the ‘living wage’ and your boss instructs you back, you simply must do as your told. I am lucky organisation I work for are saying another 4-6 weeks of home working. But I can’t say the same for some of my family. Who as you state it, have to go back to work
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
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No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
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That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
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No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
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That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
Are you even bothering with contact tracing? I know you recently started counting the dead from care homes, so maybe you have started doing the correct thing. We will find out in a couple of weeks time but if I was a betting man I wouldn't be backing the buffoon and his cronies to do you right.
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
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Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
Homebase local to me opened on Sunday. Lots of smelling independents opened today judging by my social media apps.
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
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No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
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That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
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Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 18 seconds ago
Homebase local to me opened on Sunday. Lots of smelling independents opened today judging by my social media apps.
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DIY shops opened a few weeks back and didn’t have to close down anyway
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comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
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Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
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That was only from today onward (I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the article), but dont act as if they have been living lavish for weeks.
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comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
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No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
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That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
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Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
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You have been aggressive in your comments, give and take.
Yeah, I know my friends mum owns a small village hardware shop, she has stayed open the whole time.
Point being, due to the vagueness of guidelines as someone put excellently earlier:
“The fact the government had to release a 100 word explanation of what they meant by "stay alert" should serve as confirmation of it's ambiguity.
It appears that herd immunity is back on the table, and ambiguity is being used as plausible deniability”
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
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Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
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That was only from today onward (I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the article), but dont act as if they have been living lavish for weeks.
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So let’s be honest you wrote this article and didn’t really have a clue.
Stay Safe, from what I can gather it is only England that is changing tact with the other parts sticking as they were. Maybe it's a grand big experiment to see what happens before others decide if they'll follow suit
BTW It's laughable to compare the lockdowns of Spain and Italy to the one that took place in England ffs 😂
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posted 1 minute ago
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posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
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Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
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You have been aggressive in your comments, give and take.
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What?! Where?!
You basically just cant answer the simple questions put to you.
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah, I know my friends mum owns a small village hardware shop, she has stayed open the whole time.
Point being, due to the vagueness of guidelines as someone put excellently earlier:
“The fact the government had to release a 100 word explanation of what they meant by "stay alert" should serve as confirmation of it's ambiguity.
It appears that herd immunity is back on the table, and ambiguity is being used as plausible deniability”
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Herd immunity is the only option till there’s a vaccine
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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posted 49 minutes ago
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
How and when did I say it was about me. Simply stating there are many mixed messages from the government. Nor is anyone calling for some permanent lockdown. Just a strategically led plan, with testing and anti bodie testing at the heart of it. Ya d!ck!
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posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
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No we haven’t. What are you on about?
Every cafe, restaurant and bar is closed. Hell, even Gregg’s and Subway haven’t reopened their stores nationwide.
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comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 49 minutes ago
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
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What two family members? If it was me I would want nothing opening until the last virus had gone. But you seem, what shall I say, uncaring if you lose more.
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 11 minutes ago
How and when did I say it was about me. Simply stating there are many mixed messages from the government. Nor is anyone calling for some permanent lockdown. Just a strategically led plan, with testing and anti bodie testing at the heart of it. Ya d!ck!
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The post I quoted was all about you; hence why I quoted it.....
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comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
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comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
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Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
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What two family members? If it was me I would want nothing opening until the last virus had gone. But you seem, what shall I say, uncaring if you lose more.
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posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
posted on 11/5/20
Or if your earning that small amount ie the ‘living wage’ and your boss instructs you back, you simply must do as your told. I am lucky organisation I work for are saying another 4-6 weeks of home working. But I can’t say the same for some of my family. Who as you state it, have to go back to work
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
posted on 11/5/20
Are you even bothering with contact tracing? I know you recently started counting the dead from care homes, so maybe you have started doing the correct thing. We will find out in a couple of weeks time but if I was a betting man I wouldn't be backing the buffoon and his cronies to do you right.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
posted on 11/5/20
Homebase local to me opened on Sunday. Lots of smelling independents opened today judging by my social media apps.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
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Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
posted on 11/5/20
Smelling smaller
posted on 11/5/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 18 seconds ago
Homebase local to me opened on Sunday. Lots of smelling independents opened today judging by my social media apps.
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DIY shops opened a few weeks back and didn’t have to close down anyway
posted on 11/5/20
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
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That was only from today onward (I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the article), but dont act as if they have been living lavish for weeks.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 45 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You have been aggressive in your comments, give and take.
posted on 11/5/20
Yeah, I know my friends mum owns a small village hardware shop, she has stayed open the whole time.
Point being, due to the vagueness of guidelines as someone put excellently earlier:
“The fact the government had to release a 100 word explanation of what they meant by "stay alert" should serve as confirmation of it's ambiguity.
It appears that herd immunity is back on the table, and ambiguity is being used as plausible deniability”
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Open the country to what exactly?
I’ve just been out and everything is shut bar supermarkets.
I can’t go to a cafe and order a beer and sit down outside like lots of places in Spain
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That was only from today onward (I was not aware of that at the time I wrote the article), but dont act as if they have been living lavish for weeks.
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So let’s be honest you wrote this article and didn’t really have a clue.
posted on 11/5/20
Stay Safe, from what I can gather it is only England that is changing tact with the other parts sticking as they were. Maybe it's a grand big experiment to see what happens before others decide if they'll follow suit
BTW It's laughable to compare the lockdowns of Spain and Italy to the one that took place in England ffs 😂
posted on 11/5/20
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comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by -bloodred- (U1222)
posted 1 hour, 52 minutes ago
Because the decision around continuing a full lockdown depends on the current capacity of the NHS. That simple.
Genuinely interested in the counter-argument though - presumably people who think we should be continuing a full lockdown believe we should do so until a vaccine is available?
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No, not at all, but in Holland and Ireland and Italy the cases per day are down a lot for example, so you can start to ease. In the UK you still have 4000 cases per day, as you did a couple weeks back. Thats whats the difference is.
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That doesnt tell you anything. We have massively increased testing capacity over the past few weeks.
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Still no reason to ease up so soon. You have been the shortest in lock down than most countries, yet have one of the worst figures. Correlation?
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What exactly are the criteria you believe we should be meeting before easing lockdown? You've yet to explain.
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I am no expert, but looking at the numbers, you show no slow down yet. thats all.
I am sure you have the answer to everything though. I bet you even wear glasses.
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Yes, but I've already told you the numbers arent reliable at all because testing capacity a few weeks ago weren't at what they are now.
I'll also ignore that somewhat bizarre, snide comment.
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You have been aggressive in your comments, give and take.
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What?! Where?!
You basically just cant answer the simple questions put to you.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 1 minute ago
Yeah, I know my friends mum owns a small village hardware shop, she has stayed open the whole time.
Point being, due to the vagueness of guidelines as someone put excellently earlier:
“The fact the government had to release a 100 word explanation of what they meant by "stay alert" should serve as confirmation of it's ambiguity.
It appears that herd immunity is back on the table, and ambiguity is being used as plausible deniability”
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Herd immunity is the only option till there’s a vaccine
posted on 11/5/20
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
posted on 11/5/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 49 minutes ago
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
posted on 11/5/20
How and when did I say it was about me. Simply stating there are many mixed messages from the government. Nor is anyone calling for some permanent lockdown. Just a strategically led plan, with testing and anti bodie testing at the heart of it. Ya d!ck!
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
comment by MKspur ツ (U9129)
posted 9 seconds ago
comment by Stay Safe (U1250)
posted 4 seconds ago
In Spain people can walk a kilometer in the morning a few hours and in the evening. Still only go out for shopping.
Ireland still on full lock down.
Other countries werent hit as hard as the UK.
I am not here to attack anyone, I am genuinely surprised, because I want to get the fack out of my gaff and get the kids back in school, but thats not happening for another 2.5 months !!!
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Spain have opened cafes in lots of parts of the country
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Only from today and Madrid is still in lock down, UK have opened up the country.
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No we haven’t. What are you on about?
Every cafe, restaurant and bar is closed. Hell, even Gregg’s and Subway haven’t reopened their stores nationwide.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 49 minutes ago
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
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What two family members? If it was me I would want nothing opening until the last virus had gone. But you seem, what shall I say, uncaring if you lose more.
posted on 11/5/20
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 11 minutes ago
How and when did I say it was about me. Simply stating there are many mixed messages from the government. Nor is anyone calling for some permanent lockdown. Just a strategically led plan, with testing and anti bodie testing at the heart of it. Ya d!ck!
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The post I quoted was all about you; hence why I quoted it.....
posted on 11/5/20
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Sat Nav (U18243)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
posted 49 minutes ago
Yeah Hybrid well I have already lost one family member, where should I draw the line at the governments complacency?
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Losing a family member has nothing to do with it; it’s not all about you you know.
I have lost two family members to covid 19 FYI.
The virus has to run its course and inevitably will do, top priority was and is to not overwhelm the NHS. Lockdown measures will be gradually lifted as long as the NHS can handle it. Total lockdown for an extended period of time is not the solution and will cause more deaths
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What two family members? If it was me I would want nothing opening until the last virus had gone. But you seem, what shall I say, uncaring if you lose more.
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