The double standards when it comes to declaring Pogba a flop but making excuse after excuse for Keita hurts my brain.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 47 seconds ago
Wow, I did what even Winston couldn't do. I got toordude to give up.
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Don't flatter yourself, Winston gets me to do it frequently. He's the master of the fight to the end. I don't have the patience anymore. Plus I'm supposed to be working, on my own whilst every other person is on furlough.

So I'm off to do some work.
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Scholes >>> Gerrard

comment by Geoff Tipps (U1449)
posted 50 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 47 seconds ago
Wow, I did what even Winston couldn't do. I got toordude to give up.
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Don't flatter yourself, Winston gets me to do it frequently. He's the master of the fight to the end. I don't have the patience anymore. Plus I'm supposed to be working, on my own whilst every other person is on furlough.

So I'm off to do some work.
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Scholes >>> Gerrard
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Don't even.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
The double standards when it comes to declaring Pogba a flop but making excuse after excuse for Keita hurts my brain.
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Thing is with Keita is that he actually is $hit

comment by CurrentlyIntheUK (U11181)
posted 21 minutes ago
Pogba is more talented player no doubt. The way Liverpool play, Henderson suits them. Klopp would have to play a different system if he had Pogba instead of Henderson.

So Henderson is perfect for the system Liverpool play currently and Pogba would not be. Take out Pogba and put in Henderson into the side at United and the United midfield regresses.
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Exactly!

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
You don't have an outstanding midfield. You have (arguably) an outstanding team with an OK midfield.
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You don't reach 2 consecutive CL finals, and only lose 3 PL games out of 67, by having an OK midfield.
As I said, a player who last year lost possession of the ball, 252 times, isn't the type of player that we would be able to, or indeed want to accommodate in our squad.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 8 minutes ago
The double standards when it comes to declaring Pogba a flop but making excuse after excuse for Keita hurts my brain.
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It’s what happens when you have the most clueless, deluded and sensitive fans in the world.

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
You don't have an outstanding midfield. You have (arguably) an outstanding team with an OK midfield.
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You don't reach 2 consecutive CL finals, and only lose 3 PL games out of 67, by having an OK midfield.
As I said, a player who last year lost possession of the ball, 252 times, isn't the type of player that we would be able to, or indeed want to accommodate in our squad.

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What about Messi, a player who loses the ball the most of any other player in the Spanish League? Is he good enough for your team?

Pogba spends more time walking around the pitch than any other PL midfielder so I doubt Klopp would put up with that at all.

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
You don't have an outstanding midfield. You have (arguably) an outstanding team with an OK midfield.
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You don't reach 2 consecutive CL finals, and only lose 3 PL games out of 67, by having an OK midfield.
As I said, a player who last year lost possession of the ball, 252 times, isn't the type of player that we would be able to, or indeed want to accommodate in our squad.

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What about Messi, a player who loses the ball the most of any other player in the Spanish League? Is he good enough for your team?
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What about Messi?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
You don't have an outstanding midfield. You have (arguably) an outstanding team with an OK midfield.
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You don't reach 2 consecutive CL finals, and only lose 3 PL games out of 67, by having an OK midfield.
As I said, a player who last year lost possession of the ball, 252 times, isn't the type of player that we would be able to, or indeed want to accommodate in our squad.

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Clearly you can, because you did.

Two European finals in a row, PL about to be won, by a record margin, OK midfield. Wow. People are stupid.

Henderson Fabinho Wijnaldum is an OK midfield. It's definitely not world class or anything.

The Liverpool midfield isn’t a collection of outstanding players - but it is a bunch of players who do exactly what is asked to provide a platform for the front three to do their thing. It’s a redundant debate to compare quality with other midfielders as it’s almost like putting square pegs in round holes. It works for Klopp’s Liverpool so they’re the very best for that particular job.

comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 43 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
You don't have an outstanding midfield. You have (arguably) an outstanding team with an OK midfield.
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You don't reach 2 consecutive CL finals, and only lose 3 PL games out of 67, by having an OK midfield.
As I said, a player who last year lost possession of the ball, 252 times, isn't the type of player that we would be able to, or indeed want to accommodate in our squad.

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What about Messi, a player who loses the ball the most of any other player in the Spanish League? Is he good enough for your team?
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What about Messi?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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That's a no then? He loses the ball too much, so I understand.

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
Two European finals in a row, PL about to be won, by a record margin, OK midfield. Wow. People are stupid.
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Indeed.

but it is a bunch of players who do exactly what is asked to provide a platform for the front three to do their thing.
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Exactly, nothing outstanding. Just grunt/dog work. It's an OK midfield.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 10 seconds ago
but it is a bunch of players who do exactly what is asked to provide a platform for the front three to do their thing.
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Exactly, nothing outstanding. Just grunt/dog work. It's an OK midfield.
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It’s a midfield that would be disrupted by putting someone like Pogba in it though. Balance is everything

Klopp would just change his system if he had the option to trade Pogba for Henderson.

He'd probably just play something like this:

Fabinho Wijnaldum
Salah Pogba Mane
Firmino

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp would just change his system if he had the option to trade Pogba for Henderson.
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Nah

As others have said Pogba is more talented, but saying Klopp would trade Henderson for Pogba shows you have absolutely no idea about Klopp as a manager.

comment by Wahl Icht - (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
He'd probably just play something like this:

Fabinho Wijnaldum
Salah Pogba Mane
Firmino
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No he wouldn't. This takes Firmino's space and also completely destroys the quick transition, whilst taking a huge part away from the pressing. Pogba is not good enough to play in Liverpool's midfield. He'd work better in a team who have a slow transition, a more defensive shape, with two defensive midfielders behind him, who don't press as a team but rely more on individuals. Not many of them about nowadays who could afford him.

Klopp would love Pogba pinging long balls to the forwards to run onto.

I don’t think Klopp would choose Pogba over Henderson
Zidane would, Pep would too, and Mourinho, Conte would as well, so would Allegri, and Simeone and just about every other manager on the planet