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Henderson >>> Pogba

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posted on 22/5/20

No running stats is not a fact.

Distance does not equal running

It's actually laughable that you're trying to claim Pogba runs more than Henderson. He jogs back and forward, sometimes walks

posted on 22/5/20

Lets go over this again...

You asked for the averages and I just gave you the averages. This makes your complaint about Henderson playing less minutes totally irrelevant.

The running stats, are labelled just that on the Premier League website.

They give you the total distance:

Distance run (km) - 256.47

And then the average:

Distance per match (km) - 8.01

THEY ARE RUNNING STATS.

You can tell because they put the word RUN in there.


posted on 23/5/20

Wow. You are too stupid to understand. I'm out.

posted on 23/5/20

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posted on 23/5/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 hour, 59 minutes ago
Wow. You are too stupid to understand. I'm out.
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Pathetic, asks for the averages, gets them, then runs away. Love this site.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
Wow. You are too stupid to understand. I'm out.
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Yeah, I don't believe this for a second. I've seen you go round in circles for days with Winston arguing the most stupid pointless shiiit.

I think you got proved wrong and you're trying to make out that that's not why you're running away now.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 9 hours, 5 minutes ago
Wow. You are too stupid to understand. I'm out.
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Yeah, I don't believe this for a second. I've seen you go round in circles for days with Winston arguing the most stupid pointless shiiit.

I think you got proved wrong and you're trying to make out that that's not why you're running away now.
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You must be stupid also then. The guy literally posted stats which proved himself wrong and he still claimed victory. He's too stupid to understand, so I'm not going to waste my time debating with an idiot as I can't win.

Looks like you're on his level so work away.

posted on 23/5/20

so I'm not going to waste my time debating with an idiot
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You've done this time and time again.

I just don't buy it bro.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 32 minutes ago
so I'm not going to waste my time debating with an idiot
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You've done this time and time again.

I just don't buy it bro.
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That's fine bro. Why don't you read the stats yourself then and come to your own conclusion. Agree with the idiot who literally posted stats disproving his claim or not. That's up to you.

posted on 23/5/20

I posted stats proving my self wrong? Can you read...?

This is the weirdest and most desperate attempt at trying to pretend something isn't happening since RDD's last comment.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 13 minutes ago
I posted stats proving my self wrong? Can you read...?

This is the weirdest and most desperate attempt at trying to pretend something isn't happening since RDD's last comment.
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This should be very simple, even for you. You claimed Pogba's stats were better than Henderson's in the basics I mentioned in regards to Henderson's role. You then posted stats disproving this.

Ah damnit. I'll have another attempt at helping you understand. You've sucked me in.

Using your stats on the PL website. Let's try another way and you might get it.

Henderson dispossessed 8(12), Pogba 89
Henderson interceptions 40(60), Pogba 18
Henderson tackles won 35(52), Pogba 30
Henderson blocks 3(5), Pogba 9
Henderson fouls 26(39), Pogba 54
Henderson clearances 13(19), Pogba 36
Henderson pass completion 87%, Pogba 82%

Now bear in mind Henderson played 1000 minutes less. Therefore if we add 50% to Henderson's totals(in brackets), considering he played 2000 minutes and Pogba 3000 minutes, we get a fairer reflection. As you can see, Henderson far outperformed Pogba in the areas you claimed Pogba was better in, with blocks and clearances(pumping the ball up the pitch, rather than passing it out) the outliers.

Do you understand?

posted on 23/5/20

What is this??? Are you insane?

This is both hilarious and pathetic.

For anybody who wants a good laugh, TOOR just cherry picked 7 stats from the comparison page from different sections to make out Henderson is superior.

How absolutely and utterly embarrassing.

"Now bear in mind Henderson played 1000 minutes less. Therefore if we add 50% to Henderson's totals(in brackets)"

No we won't add 50% to the stats ffs, lets use the actual averages provided to us by professionals instead of blatant manipulations of the facts.

You asked me for the averages because the prem website stats were unfair and so i gave you the averages which blatantly prove Pogba was better last season.

You've now gone back to the Prem stats you said you didn't want take into consideration and manipulated it to fit your own agenda.

This has got to be one of the most pathetic attempts at recovering from embarrassment on this site I've ever seen.

posted on 23/5/20

Wow.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 8 minutes ago
What is this??? Are you insane?

This is both hilarious and pathetic.

For anybody who wants a good laugh, TOOR just cherry picked 7 stats from the comparison page from different sections to make out Henderson is superior.

How absolutely and utterly embarrassing.

"Now bear in mind Henderson played 1000 minutes less. Therefore if we add 50% to Henderson's totals(in brackets)"

No we won't add 50% to the stats ffs, lets use the actual averages provided to us by professionals instead of blatant manipulations of the facts.

You asked me for the averages because the prem website stats were unfair and so i gave you the averages which blatantly prove Pogba was better last season.

You've now gone back to the Prem stats you said you didn't want take into consideration and manipulated it to fit your own agenda.

This has got to be one of the most pathetic attempts at recovering from embarrassment on this site I've ever seen.

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Adding 50%, does get you the average, you imbecille.

posted on 23/5/20

Yet the averages I provided you with from an independent source says different.

Let's forget you cherry picking stats, going back to stats you said you didn't like and ignoring the averages you requested.

Nobody will notice.

posted on 23/5/20

I greatly underestimated your stupidity.

This is like pulling hens teeth.

Seriously how do you dress yourself in the morning?

posted on 23/5/20

Ariels won Per Game: Pogba 1.7 Henderson 0.8 (1-0)
Tackles PG: 1.3.....1.4 (1-1)
Blocks PG: 0.3.......0.1 (2-1)
Dribbled past PG: 0.7....0.7
Clearances PG:: 1....0.4 (3-1)
Interceptions PG: 0.5....0.9 (3-2)

Key passes PG: 1.6....0.5 (not defence I guess?)
passes PG: 59.1.....54.1 (4-2)
Pass success PG: 82.8........87.2 (4-3)
Long Ball PG: 4.7.......3.3 (not defence?)
Through balls PG: 0.2....0.1 (ditto)
Crosses PG: 01.....02 (ditto)
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So Pogba wins? I don't know whether I'm reading correctly or not though.

If you take out passes and pass success, it's still 3-2 to Pogba. Again, I dunno whether these are the stats in question or whether I'm reading them wrong.

posted on 23/5/20

Look you silly person. The stats I picked are the things Henderson does in his role. You incorrectly stating Pogba does those things better. So what stats are we supposed to use, in order to compare the things Henderson does? The stats that are required for Henderson's role of course!

You couldn't understand the percentages so I created the percentages for you in simple number form and you still couldn't understand it. What more am I supposed to do here, when you can't understand stats, percentages or how to turn a percentage into a number? If Pogba bloody played 3000 minutes and Henderson played 2000 minutes then there is a 50% increase in minutes. Therefore we need to increase Henderson's stats by 50%, to get a number, which I thought would be an easier way for you to understand. As it happens you're even more stupid than I thought.

Go back to school ffs as this is embarrassing.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ariels won Per Game: Pogba 1.7 Henderson 0.8 (1-0)
Tackles PG: 1.3.....1.4 (1-1)
Blocks PG: 0.3.......0.1 (2-1)
Dribbled past PG: 0.7....0.7
Clearances PG:: 1....0.4 (3-1)
Interceptions PG: 0.5....0.9 (3-2)

Key passes PG: 1.6....0.5 (not defence I guess?)
passes PG: 59.1.....54.1 (4-2)
Pass success PG: 82.8........87.2 (4-3)
Long Ball PG: 4.7.......3.3 (not defence?)
Through balls PG: 0.2....0.1 (ditto)
Crosses PG: 01.....02 (ditto)
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So Pogba wins? I don't know whether I'm reading correctly or not though.

If you take out passes and pass success, it's still 3-2 to Pogba. Again, I dunno whether these are the stats in question or whether I'm reading them wrong.
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He stated Pogba does the things Henderson does better. He then selected a few stats believing proved his point whilst leaving out stats which are pivotal to Henderson's role but even using his stats, ignoring the parts not essential to Hendersons role, he proved himself wrong.

Tackles Henderson wins.
Interceptions Henderson wins.
Pass success Henderson wins.
Dribbled past is equal.

The other stats are nothing to do with what he said.

He's an imbecile and you're not far behind.

posted on 23/5/20

So you’re just saying the stats where Henderson loses out are not essential to his role and the ones where he wins are?

posted on 23/5/20

So pass success is essential but passes is not essential?

Interceptions is essential but but Ariels won isn’t essential.

He’s right, you’re just cherry picking the stats which suit you.

posted on 23/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 3 minutes ago
So pass success is essential but passes is not essential?

Interceptions is essential but but Ariels won isn’t essential.

He’s right, you’re just cherry picking the stats which suit you.
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Passes success is more important than overall passes, thicko, in Henderson's role, certainly, considering he's required to keep possession. Obviously with Pogba trying more riskier passes and being the playmaker he's going to pass more and lose the ball more but that is not what we are debating!

You can include aerial duels if you want ffs . It still doesnt negate all the other stats which prove he was chatting nonsense.

I'm cherry picking?

I'll leave you two idiots to talk to each other. I've brought myself down to your level long enough.

posted on 23/5/20

You are cherry picking. you dropped clearances, overall passes, aerial duels and blocks because Pogba won those stats.

posted on 23/5/20

Pogba isn't even better than Gini FFS never mind Hendo.

posted on 23/5/20

I'll happily admit Van Dijk, Alisson, Salah, Mane are top players. But I just can't say the same about the likes of Hendo and Wijnaldum. Top teams sometimes have players who aren't great but just fill a hole in the team. Just because a team is very good, doesn't mean all their players are very good.

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