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How do you define World Class

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posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Don't Liverpool want to replace Firmino with Timo Werner anyway?
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Do they? First I've heard that. Where did you hear that from?

posted on 26/5/20

Top 5 in their position in world (Europe really) football, but having a benchmark of 5 means real quality players miss out.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.

posted on 26/5/20

Liverpool definitely have been chasing Werner

posted on 26/5/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.
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Just my opinion man. I think if you take Firmino out and put in Lewandowski, then that elevates Liverpool into a World Class team.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 24 minutes ago
Firmino is a very good player who fits Liverpool wonderfully and I know that game isn't all about stats but he would need to score and assist more to be world class and he's almost gone backwards this season in that sense.
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Firmino is probably the only forward in the world not judged on his goal contributions.

He's taken the 3rd most shots on goal in the league (87) and has also missed the most chances.

The recent success at Liverpool has seen almost everyone of their players dubbed world class.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 7 minutes ago
Liverpool definitely have been chasing Werner
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Yeah. Not to replace Firmino though

posted on 26/5/20

Who else is he replacing?

posted on 26/5/20

Nobody. We need more quality options in attack and he would provide that.

posted on 26/5/20

I think he'd bench Firmino, its pretty obvious.

posted on 26/5/20

The four players would be rotated. We play a lot of games so they will all get a lot of game time.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.
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Just my opinion man. I think if you take Firmino out and put in Lewandowski, then that elevates Liverpool into a World Class team.
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I think Liverpool are already a world class team being European and World Champions and on the way to a PL title, 25 points ahead of the pretenders.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think he'd bench Firmino, its pretty obvious.
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Only if you don't understand football or Klopp's words.

posted on 26/5/20

Ok, who gets rotated more in that scenario though, Firmino or Salah? Firmino or Mane?

Obviously Firmino will play the least if werner signs.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.
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Just my opinion man. I think if you take Firmino out and put in Lewandowski, then that elevates Liverpool into a World Class team.
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I think Liverpool are already a world class team being European and World Champions and on the way to a PL title, 25 points ahead of the pretenders.
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I don't think City are a World class team either. Not this season at least.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 21 seconds ago
Ok, who gets rotated more in that scenario though, Firmino or Salah? Firmino or Mane?

Obviously Firmino will play the least if werner signs.
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Nah

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 45 seconds ago
Ok, who gets rotated more in that scenario though, Firmino or Salah? Firmino or Mane?

Obviously Firmino will play the least if werner signs.
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Nope. Firmino is the most important player out of the three. I would say Salah and Mane would be rotated more. If Salah, Mane would move right. This is why Werner is the perfect fit, it would mean all four attackers get a large amount of games and are covered for rests, injuries etc.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.
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Just my opinion man. I think if you take Firmino out and put in Lewandowski, then that elevates Liverpool into a World Class team.
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I think Liverpool are already a world class team being European and World Champions and on the way to a PL title, 25 points ahead of the pretenders.
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I don't think City are a World class team either. Not this season at least.
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No? What would make them a world class team? Winning the CL?

posted on 26/5/20

I don't think City are good enough to win the CL this season.

comment by Melt (U22362)

posted on 26/5/20

I’d say top 5 in their position depending on the position ok the whole.

Alisson
Ederson
DDG (unsure)

TAA
VVD
Laporte

KDB

Mane
Kane

Are probably the only ones I could say for definite. Then you have Salah, Kante, Sterling in the arguable column.

Then there is ‘truly world class’ who is a player who would get into every team in the world. The only current PL player like that is KDB.

posted on 26/5/20

How is Kante arguable?

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ok, who gets rotated more in that scenario though, Firmino or Salah? Firmino or Mane?

Obviously Firmino will play the least if werner signs.
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I don't think it's that simple.

A key part of Firmino's permanent role in the Liverpool juggernaut is how he's also managed to keep himself freakishly fit while playing in a very physical league.

The past 3 seasons have only seen him miss about 6 games according to Transfermarkt.

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 19 minutes ago
I don't think City are good enough to win the CL this season.
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And if they did? Would they be world class?

posted on 26/5/20

comment by Gillespie Road. (U18361)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 7 minutes ago
Ok, who gets rotated more in that scenario though, Firmino or Salah? Firmino or Mane?

Obviously Firmino will play the least if werner signs.
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I don't think it's that simple.

A key part of Firmino's permanent role in the Liverpool juggernaut is how he's also managed to keep himself freakishly fit while playing in a very physical league.

The past 3 seasons have only seen him miss about 6 games according to Transfermarkt.
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Must be because he's the least important.

posted on 26/5/20

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