comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 19 seconds ago
I love Bobby and have always backed him as being quality but I dont think he is world class. He still hasn't had a consistently great season with us. If he played to the standard he did this season between August and October/November all season, he could have a case. I wouldn't swap him for many players but I dony think he is world class.
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A fair point. I actually think it's due to what has been mentioned above, he doesn't get many rests. He gets burnt out as he's full throttle all the time.

I don't think City are good enough, so if they somehow fluked a CL win this season (unlikely) I wouldn't consider them world class.

Bayern, Juventus, PSG and Barcelona are the current World class teams.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't think City are good enough, so if they somehow fluked a CL win this season (unlikely) I wouldn't consider them world class.

Bayern, Juventus, PSG and Barcelona are the current World class teams.
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How are Juventus world class and City not?

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 20 minutes ago
I've always thought of Firmino as a player who does the donkey work for Salah and Mane. I don't think you need to be a great player to play his role.
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Yes but that's because you don't understand football.
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Just my opinion man. I think if you take Firmino out and put in Lewandowski, then that elevates Liverpool into a World Class team.
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You don't think this liverpool team is one of the best in Europe?

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 4 minutes ago
I don't think City are good enough, so if they somehow fluked a CL win this season (unlikely) I wouldn't consider them world class.

Bayern, Juventus, PSG and Barcelona are the current World class teams.
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None have been as good as Liverpool in past 18 months, all the stats are there to see mate.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 40 seconds ago
How is Kante arguable?
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Cos it’s tough to know how badly he has been affected by his injury. It seems he has lost a bit of pace which would mean he is no longer the player he was.

Oh Wahl. I've never seen anybody with a more clueless understanding of the game than you.

Liverpool and City aren't world class this season. City were world class 2017-19

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 19 seconds ago
Liverpool and City aren't world class this season. City were world class 2017-19
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Yeah only Liverpool are world class out of those two this season.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 1 minute ago
Liverpool and City aren't world class this season. City were world class 2017-19
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Wahl, stop digging for bites

First off Robb, you can't fool me, I think it's pretty obvious you're actually a Liverpool fan pretending to be a United fan.

Secondly, City and Liverpool aren't world class. I know you love Klopp and his team, but they got humbled badly by Atletico. City have spent the season competing with Lester, they aren't world class currently either.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 4 seconds ago
First off Robb, you can't fool me, I think it's pretty obvious you're actually a Liverpool fan pretending to be a United fan.

Secondly, City and Liverpool aren't world class. I know you love Klopp and his team, but they got humbled badly by Atletico. City have spent the season competing with Lester, they aren't world class currently either.
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First off Wahl, you’re an ‘insert whoever José manages fan’ pretending to be a Chelsea fan

Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.

The English league has two world class teams supposedly yet who's dominating the KO stages of the CL this season. 2 English teams out, 1 all but out and the other 50/50 on whether they go through.

Personally I think a world class striker would have scored a goal at home in the league

Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.

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comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 15 seconds ago
Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.
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Yeah there is a difference, we're better than them.

This team would be World Class, for example:

Alisson
Trent Gomez Van Dijk Robertson
De Bruyne Fabinho Wijnaldum
Salah Lewandowski Mane

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 30 seconds ago
Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.
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There is a difference - Liverpool are the CL holders and those two teams haven’t won it in ages.

comment by GTWI4T- some people deserve to get trolled (U6008)
posted 22 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 2 minutes ago
The English league has two world class teams supposedly yet who's dominating the KO stages of the CL this season. 2 English teams out, 1 all but out and the other 50/50 on whether they go through.
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We we world class last season getting 97 points and winning the CL?
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No, you shouldn't have won the CL last season. You got lucky that you caught Barcelona off guard on a bad night for them. They should have progressed comfortably.

comment by Hendo's Trophy Shuffle (U1217)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 15 seconds ago
Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.
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Yeah there is a difference, we're better than them.
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You think you're better than PSG or Bayern Munich

Have you seen how good Bayern are? They humiliated Chelsea and Tottenham. Lewandowski is on another level to any player in the PL aside from De Bruyne.

We shouldn't have got knocked out this season. Atletico got lucky that Alisson was missing for the second leg.

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Hendo's Trophy Shuffle (U1217)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 15 seconds ago
Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.
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Yeah there is a difference, we're better than them.
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You think you're better than PSG or Bayern Munich

Have you seen how good Bayern are? They humiliated Chelsea and Tottenham. Lewandowski is on another level to any player in the PL aside from De Bruyne.
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How good were Bayern and Lewamdowski when Liverpool knocked them out of the CL on their own ground last season?

comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Hendo's Trophy Shuffle (U1217)
posted 39 seconds ago
comment by Wahl Icht - Greatmanagerswinthetreble (U22332)
posted 15 seconds ago
Secondly didn’t ‘world class’ Juventus lose to Lyon?
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If Juventus lost home and away to Lyon I would not consider them world class. But they haven't and they would have likely comfortably beaten Lyon at home and progressed easily had they had the opportunity.

Have the humility to accept that (sadly) Liverpool are world class.
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They are not. Compare them to PSG or Bayern Munich and there's a difference. They're almost there but they're lacking something. one or two players away.
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Yeah there is a difference, we're better than them.
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You think you're better than PSG or Bayern Munich

Have you seen how good Bayern are? They humiliated Chelsea and Tottenham. Lewandowski is on another level to any player in the PL aside from De Bruyne.
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I don't think it, I know it.

comment by Hendo's Trophy Shuffle (U1217)
posted 3 seconds ago


We shouldn't have got knocked out this season. Atletico got lucky that Alisson was missing for the second leg.
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Diego Simeone beats teams like Liverpool season after season. No luck involved. There's a reason Atletico have a reputation as one of Europe's most dangerous teams.